Ruins of Empire (Inactive)

Game Master EltonJ

Game of Thrones via Pathfinder. This is a birthright campaign using the 1st edition Pathfinder ruleset.
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Silver Crusade

EltonJ wrote:


Better than turning into an awnshegh, right?

Well from the anglle of becoming a monstrous npc..yes.. but those awnshegh are quite powerful.. megalomania rising!


Feat tax?

...so many questions!


Alias ad Tempus wrote:

Feat tax?

...so many questions!

RAW -- rules as written for right now.


Okay, can you give me an idea how these campaigns usually shake out? Are we talking a lot of wars, political intrigue and such, or are the PCs supposed to be friendly?


DJ TPK wrote:
Okay, can you give me an idea how these campaigns usually shake out? Are we talking a lot of wars, political intrigue and such, or are the PCs supposed to be friendly?

Well, the PCs are supposed to be friendly to one another.


... Okay. That worries me a lot. I've had quite enough backstabbing in my irl group.


Starting wealth?


DJ TPK wrote:
... Okay. That worries me a lot. I've had quite enough backstabbing in my irl group.

That's a tragedy. This is Birthright, the PCs are supposed to be friendly to one another.

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Starting wealth?

You start with whatever wealth your domain acquired. i.e. the Baron of Roesone has 10 Gold Bars (GB) to play with.


I completely forgot.

As regents of your own realms, you get to start with a magic item. This item cannot be more powerful than a +1 sword. You can have a quality (such as a +1 icingdeath).

Starting money is according to your coffers of the realm you choose. You are going to have more than is normally available according to your class. Oh, since we can possibly do this long term, thinking of an heir would be generally good as the campaign progresses. So you will be starting a dynasty.


Anyone else want to play a dynasty?


On the subject of PCs being friendly, I think that it shouldn't be a problem so long as the players agree to play nice. In fact, forging some sort of formal alliance of regents could be an interesting way to establish the relationships quickly...

That being said, I am not sure who's still on board?!


Great Holn guide my noble blade, Birthright is a name I haven't heard in a long time.

Do we have to be Anuireans or can we be a different nationality that has recently acquired a domain in this land?


I am excited about getting to play some Birthright.


Havocprince wrote:

Great Holn guide my noble blade, Birthright is a name I haven't heard in a long time.

Do we have to be Anuireans or can we be a different nationality that has recently acquired a domain in this land?

Elinie is ruled by Khinasi paladins still, if you want to play a different nationality. So the answer is yes.

MrStr4ng3 wrote:
I am excited about getting to play some Birthright.

Awesome

Alias ad Tempus wrote:

On the subject of PCs being friendly, I think that it shouldn't be a problem so long as the players agree to play nice. In fact, forging some sort of formal alliance of regents could be an interesting way to establish the relationships quickly...

That being said, I am not sure who's still on board?!

Neither am I. I wanted to fill six slots, and so far I got two. Maybe three.


Hmm, Khinasi might be interesting. I really like the feel of the Brechtür, but I could probably pull off a Spaniard.

We using the assign your lowest to bloodline, or separate stat roll, or just assign one of seven however you like?


Havocprince wrote:

Hmm, Khinasi might be interesting. I really like the feel of the Brechtür, but I could probably pull off a Spaniard.

We using the assign your lowest to bloodline, or separate stat roll, or just assign one of seven however you like?

Guilder Kalien is a half-elf from Brechtür, so he's half-Brecht half-elf. He grew up in Brechtür, so it's possible to play a Brecht regent to.

To have a bloodline means spending one of your traits. Which is better than spending your feat. I worked out a bloodline trait with alias de tempus earlier in the thread.


Sorry, I didn't make that clear.

The blood score. The actual attribute. Is it one roll separate from the other six, or is it assigned from a set of seven. I just looked through the rest and it looks like the former.

As a human or halfelf, can I assign my +2 to that score before it is doubled for the final score?

Edit: Realized I could edit posts instead of deluging you under 5 seperate ones... Deleted the others for space saving.

Also, how are we going to handle the Azrai bloodline, I remember that always turned into an issue anytime someone had it.

Edit: Also, get those stats out of the way so you know I am serious about this.

4d6 ⇒ (2, 3, 1, 4) = 10 9
4d6 ⇒ (4, 2, 5, 3) = 14 12
4d6 ⇒ (4, 4, 5, 4) = 17 13
4d6 ⇒ (6, 6, 4, 3) = 19 16
4d6 ⇒ (5, 6, 5, 1) = 17 16
4d6 ⇒ (1, 3, 3, 6) = 13 12
4d6 ⇒ (6, 5, 1, 2) = 14 13


Havocprince wrote:

Sorry, I didn't make that clear.

The blood score. The actual attribute. Is it one roll separate from the other six, or is it assigned from a set of seven. I just looked through the rest and it looks like the former.

As a human or halfelf, can I assign my +2 to that score before it is doubled for the final score?

No, you may not assign your +2 to that score before it's doubled. It's one roll separate from the other six, sorry for the confusion.

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Also, how are we going to handle the Azrai bloodline, I remember that always turned into an issue anytime someone had it.

Depends on how strong it is. Azrai's blood ability, bloodform, is usually a major or great ability. And it slowly turns you into a monster. Kind of fitting for the god of Pride. Goblins usually have Azrai and so do the Vos. (And birthright goblins look very different than from standard pathfinder goblins).


Thanks for all the quick responses. It never hurts to ask these questions.

I'm going to go with a Brecht background, probably a half-elf with the Brecht table.

1d100 ⇒ 80 Go figure...
1d100 ⇒ 46 Fear minor
1d100 ⇒ 92 Resistance major

Guess I'll lean in to it. Bloodrager OK? It seems appropriate for the bloodline.

Edit:Woops, thought that was Azrai, I was looking one line down.

So that fear is actually a healing. So scratch the bloodrager idea.


...Are we rolling for bloodline powers? Choosing? Or are they reserved for the scion class?


Alias ad Tempus wrote:
...Are we rolling for bloodline powers? Choosing? Or are they reserved for the scion class?

You can roll for your blood abilities.


1d100 ⇒ 27 Blood History
1d100 ⇒ 32 re-roll
1d100 ⇒ 67 Direction Sense
1d100 ⇒ 87 Major Resistance - Poison

Makes sense...


At least you don't have to worry about getting poisoned.


Yup. Blessed by the Gods. And the blood history may help to discover the assassin...?


Alias ad Tempus wrote:
Yup. Blessed by the Gods. And the blood history may help to discover the assassin...?

From Birthright.net:

A scion with this ability has access to stray knowledge about notable people, legendary items, or noteworthy places. The scion may make a Bardic Knowledge check (see the Player's Handbook) as if they were a bard of equal level. A bard with this ability receives a +2 bonus to their normal check. If the scion's ancestors could not possibly have had insight into the problem, then this check automatically fails. This ability also grants a +4 bonus to Knowledge (history).

It's possible.


Brenna blood abilities
Minor: 1d100 ⇒ 40 Detect Illusion
Major: 1d100 ⇒ 74 Persuasion

Those fit nicely


MrStr4ng3 wrote:

Brenna blood abilities

[Dice=Minor]1d100 Detect Illusion
[dice=Major]1d100 Persuasion

Those fit nicely

Yes, they will fit nicely for your character.


realm spells: 1d3 ⇒ 2


I added discussion and gameplay threads so that players can sound off and we can get started.


Ok, I have finally come up with what I would like to run. Human instead of half-elf as it works better for what I want to do. Rogue. Brechter. I don't know if you want to have me play from Endier or be a guilder who has moved into a new area and taken over through trade monopoly.


Havocprince wrote:
Ok, I have finally come up with what I would like to run. Human instead of half-elf as it works better for what I want to do. Rogue. Brechter. I don't know if you want to have me play from Endier or be a guilder who has moved into a new area and taken over through trade monopoly.

Up to you. Endier is a possibility.


Alright.

The party composition is one wizard, one rogue, and one bard. The group needs a fighter type and a cleric type, and possibly a paladin. So, recruitment is re-opened to round out the regents.


Recruitment Open

Looking for more regents to play around the Southern Coast. Domains that are open include: Diemed (fighter/Paladin domain), Medoere (Priest domain), Endier (Rogue domain), and Aerenwe (Fighter domain).

Level: 1
Point buy: 25
Starting funds: Better than regular starting funds.

You are playing regents obviously. Go to Birthright.net to figure out your starting funds, plus you get a magic item. We're using Pathfinder 1st Edition obviously.

So far, Ilien and Roesone has been taken. And the players are having fun, so why not spread the fun around? Looking for 3 regents to fill the slots. Have fun.


Is the recruitment still open? I’d be interested in maybe doing Endier. I played a little Birthright back in 2nd Ed days and still own the boxset. I also own the Players Guide to Endier if that matters.


Aenwulf wrote:
Is the recruitment still open? I’d be interested in maybe doing Endier. I played a little Birthright back in 2nd Ed days and still own the boxset. I also own the Players Guide to Endier if that matters.

Yes it's still open. We had a player who took Endier, but he had family issues and never really posted. So Endier is still open for you to take. Are you planning on taking over for Guilder Kalien?


I would prefer to bring in my own character as regent instead of Kalien. Would a vigilante work still for an invested guilder? I am thinking of a Anuirean with a Reynir bloodline.

You had point buy for the most recent character but I guess I should roll the bloodline strength and abilities etc?


Aenwulf wrote:

I would prefer to bring in my own character as regent instead of Kalien. Would a vigilante work still for an invested guilder? I am thinking of a Anuirean with a Reynir bloodline.

You had point buy for the most recent character but I guess I should roll the bloodline strength and abilities etc?

Yes.


Blood Score: 4d6 ⇒ (6, 6, 3, 2) = 17

So 15 = 30 total blood line score giving 1 minor and 1 major bloodline power.

Minor Blood ability: 1d100 ⇒ 51 Forestwalk
Major Blood ability: 1d100 ⇒ 7 Animal Affinity

Nice, it works for some pet wolves.


Aenwulf wrote:

[dice=Blood Score]4d6

So 15 = 30 total blood line score giving 1 minor and 1 major bloodline power.

[dice=Minor Blood ability]1d100 Forestwalk
[dice=Major Blood ability]1d100 Animal Affinity

Nice, it works for some pet wolves.

Yep it does.


Recruitment is still open!

Looking for someone to take over Diemed, Endier, Arenwe, and Medoere. Medoere is a theocracy, Diemed is a regular kingdom, Endier is governed by rogues, and Arenwe is a regular kingdom.

Just looking for at least two more players to play kings or regents. This is the opportunity to play something different. A noble or something like that.

Liberty's Edge

hey EltonJ. Interested in playing Medoere if that works. I have the original guide so I can reference it.


Daniel Stewart wrote:
hey EltonJ. Interested in playing Medoere if that works. I have the original guide so I can reference it.

That will work, Daniel.


Hi EltonJ, I'm interested in the campaign style you've described but I'm completely unfamiliar with the setting and how building the character differs from standard PF. Any information you can provide would be fantastic! Additionally, I was wondering how open you are to 3pp, specifically Spheres of Power/Might. Thanks!


Aipaca wrote:
Hi EltonJ, I'm interested in the campaign style you've described but I'm completely unfamiliar with the setting and how building the character differs from standard PF. Any information you can provide would be fantastic! Additionally, I was wondering how open you are to 3pp, specifically Spheres of Power/Might. Thanks!

All of the information is provided on Birthright.net. You can go there and peruse what we have been working on for the past few years. I'm not open to third party this game since it's a test campaign. We are testing my conversion of Birthright to Pathfinder. We obviously use Ultimate Campaign a lot.

You will need a copy of Pathfinder and a copy of Ultimate Campaign. Everyone are level one regents and you each have a domain to rule. Character creation is at 25 points, you get one magic item at start of modest power. If you are playing a spell caster, you get a number of domain spells at start.

That should be it.

Liberty's Edge

Ok, I should roll for stats I suppose..lol

4d6 ⇒ (5, 2, 4, 5) = 16= 14
4d6 ⇒ (4, 2, 3, 1) = 10= 09
4d6 ⇒ (3, 2, 1, 5) = 11= 10
4d6 ⇒ (2, 6, 3, 1) = 12= 11
4d6 ⇒ (5, 5, 6, 2) = 18= 16
4d6 ⇒ (4, 2, 4, 6) = 16= 14
4d6 ⇒ (2, 6, 5, 2) = 15= 15

So I guess I would take my highest score as my Bloodline score. Is there anything else that adds to this number??


Guess I'll roll some dice as well!

4d6 - 4 ⇒ (4, 4, 5, 4) - 4 = 13
4d6 - 3 ⇒ (4, 6, 3, 3) - 3 = 13
4d6 - 1 ⇒ (4, 1, 3, 6) - 1 = 13
4d6 - 3 ⇒ (3, 4, 5, 3) - 3 = 12
4d6 - 2 ⇒ (2, 6, 4, 3) - 2 = 13
4d6 - 2 ⇒ (2, 5, 2, 2) - 2 = 9
4d6 - 1 ⇒ (6, 1, 3, 1) - 1 = 10

Hmm that's pretty average, any chance of a reroll?


Daniel Stewart wrote:

Ok, I should roll for stats I suppose..lol

4d6= 14
4d6= 09
4d6= 10
4d6= 11
4d6= 16
4d6= 14
4d6= 15

So I guess I would take my highest score as my Bloodline score. Is there anything else that adds to this number??

You can add ten points to your bloodline score.


Aipaca wrote:

Guess I'll roll some dice as well!

4d6-4
4d6-3
4d6-1
4d6-3
4d6-2
4d6-2
4d6-1

Hmm that's pretty average, any chance of a reroll?

Yes, you can reroll your scores.


4d6 - 1 ⇒ (1, 1, 2, 1) - 1 = 4
4d6 - 1 ⇒ (3, 1, 3, 6) - 1 = 12
4d6 - 1 ⇒ (2, 3, 5, 1) - 1 = 10
4d6 - 2 ⇒ (6, 5, 5, 2) - 2 = 16
4d6 - 1 ⇒ (4, 4, 3, 1) - 1 = 11
4d6 - 2 ⇒ (2, 5, 4, 4) - 2 = 13
4d6 - 4 ⇒ (5, 6, 4, 4) - 4 = 15

Can I just reroll that 4? I'll make another roll to save posts and you can decide.

4d6 - 2 ⇒ (5, 6, 2, 5) - 2 = 16

Well that's a lot better, up to you DM.

Silver Crusade

My earlier idea had been to go Dwarf Druid.. now i'm thinking Aerenwe, but you've said fighter domain...

Would it work if I made a combat type dwarf druid for Aerenwe or should I switch to human or just to fighter?

Thanks

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