This is a recruitment thread for a rather interesting Carrion Crown campaign, which I cannot take sole credit for on the unique concept. Basically, it's an expanded Carrion Crown campaign with extra content scavenged from Pathinder books set in Ustalav and the PCs may play as monsters, if they so desire. Does the last bit sound odd? I would note that Rudolph Van Richten, of the amazing Ravenloft setting, had several contacts that were monsters and several allies that were more and less than human. Without further ado, let's get to the character creation guidelines!
CHARACTER CREATION (Thanks to Princey for the basic recruitment template! :3)
Starting Level: 1
Pseudo-Gestalt: Pick two classes. Your character will gain ALL of the class abilities from each class at the appropriate level and your character will have access to all skills on BOTH skill lists as class skills. Upon character creation, pick one of the two classes... this class will be the one which you recieve HD size, BAB, saves, ect. from. Obviously, we don't want any god-modding in a horror campaign, but I DO think giving everyone more leeway in designing their character is appropriate and a few more options won't utterly break a character.
Allowable Races: Any, including monster races. What do I mean by that? I mean races only in a bestiary or monster entry. I will work with people on establishing how each will work as far as turning it into a class or scaling template, should I choose to allow it. I, of course, reserve the right to turn down overly ridiculous or otherwise unacceptable ideas.
CLASSES, EQUIPMENT, SKILL LIST, ECT: Any official Pathfinder and I am willing to entertain 3PP material. I will likely add a few books on Google Docs later for perusal.
Templates: I will allow templates, which will be discussed on a case-by-case basis, if interest is shown.
Point Buy: 22 from a baseline of 10, on a 1-for-1 ratio as opposed to a scaling one, and you may reduce each score by up to 2 points from any given score to gain a like amount of points to spend on another. No score should be above 18 before racial modifiers, nor below 08.
HP: Max HP per HD. I don't want people to squish too easily, nor do I want poor rolls at level-up to completely ruin a character concept.
Skills: To reflect the various skills a real person would have, you gain an extra 2 skill points each level, including 1st level.
Starting Cash: 1,000 GP
Traits: Two, one of which must be a campaign trait listed in the Carrion Crown Player's Guide.
Drawback: Players may take a drawback to gain access to a 3rd trait if desired.
Story Feats: Yes, you may take Story Feats, but you MUST run them by me so I can decide how they can fit into the campaign! No ifs, ands, or buts about it! Don’t worry though, I allow quite a wide latitude of acceptable concepts.
Alignment: Any, but you must, I repeat MUST, be a team player. If you are not, you will be booted after your character dies in some horrible manner I engineer. This doesn't mean that I am opposed to some inter-party tension, but it must all be IC (And harmless... no duels!) and never OOC.
If anyone has any questions, feel free to ask them... if you dare! >:)
so with the 1:1 point buy, just to be certain I understand, raising an ability from 10 to 18 costs 8 points, yes?
*Sees who's running it* *Coughs* XD Hmm... very tempting! I'm considering a Ghost (easy template conversion) or a Dullahan (harder, but very flavorful).
Toodles, yep!
Rednal, you make a lady blush at such a compliment! Glad to know I'm that awesome! ^_^
I love to see all the different approaches people take when they want to recruit for/run CC; I'm already in one that's taking a "ramp up the horror/stability checks" style or I'd apply for this one. Good luck everyone :)
Ooh! I'm so very excited to see one of these by you! I'm definitely gonna try to put something together, for sure!
Would you consider the Caliban from Tears at Bitter Manor? If you don't have it, simplistically, they are male Changelings, only with Racial Hit Dice and some rather nasty capabilities.
Wait, is this just an interest check thread at the moment?
you can dot me for interest. i'm thinking either tengu or tiefling...or something like that.
could I add the "half-" template to my character, or not. (this may be a stupid question...)
Posting to let you know I'm still interested in submitting a character, RVT! I'm trying to decide between a fallen angel of death or something more 'grounded', so to speak. I have several ideas, so please bear with me!
I'd be lying if I said I wasn't interested in sitting on this from the other side of things. Dotting, I'll see what I can whip up. How long do you intend to leave recruitment open for?
Seranov, you speak of an Oradin? That sounds hilarious and amazing! XD Paladin/Oracle?
Lady Lalile, you could always apply, but if you don't think it's best, no biggie!
Hey ShadowyFox! You're one of TSP's players, right? Captain Iggy, right? If you're one of his PCs, you must be amazing! I'm looking forward to seeing what you're creating!
Irnk, let me check on that... I haven't looked at that book in a while! It'll probably be allowed, but let me give it a lookover!
Duke of Despair, what 'half' template? There are MUCH better and more flavorful options in some cases! :)
Horrorshow, feel free to submit a character! I will leave recruitment up for... 5-7 days, depending on how fast people finish.
I think he's referring to Half-Celestial, Half-Dragon, etc. Some of the most basic and common templates that players use... though there IS that "Half and Half" creature one, as well as the Dichotomous template... XD
Now I just need to decide between my own ideas. Hmm...
Sarpadian, feel free to list some ideas! I will be linking the Advanced Bestiary as well, because it's got some GREAT templates!
I can't find any monster that looks like it can be played as a PC! They don't have a character template for satyrs or lizardfolk....I'm stumped!
:'(
Duke, just name a few and we'll see what can be done about that! I'm a master of breaking down creatures and making them character friendly.
EDIT: And I somehow made that sound like an S&M thing, but that's not how I meant it! XD
I WAS thinking half-dragon lizardfolk....or even just a regular minotaur...but it's hard trying to make a character like that...and I only have access to the PRD...
Let's see:
Half-dragon Lizardfolk
fiendish satyr
gargoyle
well...I don't know how gargoyle's gonna work...they are Chaotic Evil...
Or even the satyr....
Duke, hmmm... what sort of concept are you going for? Out of those, I think the gargoyle could be the most interesting, given that I used to love the Gargoyles TV show! ^_^ I have the Stonewarden Gargoyle race and racial paragon class from Rite Publishing.
um...I was thinking the gargoyle would be an outcast. you know, sort of alone?
you see....he was probably hated for his goodly heart (which would be unlikely for a Gargoyle...) and he tried to mingle with humans...but failed...so he's alone
*Ahem* Well, let's see if I can whip something up... ^^
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I actually had a straight Oracle made up for a Carrion Crown game, so I just made the necessary changes. The one thing I really need to run by you is if it's okay to be an Aasimar, but descended from Dwarves instead of Humans. The only real mechanical diference is that instead of having the Scion of Humanity racial trait, he'll have the Scion of Dwarfkind racial trait. Also he's short and stout. :3
gargoyles are really bad-a** when it comes to constitution and strengh
so i'm thinking gargoyle barbarian. (please excuse my not-so-needed potty mouth)
oh! oh! I know...gargoyle druid. no animal companion....plant domain.
Duke, the Stonewarden Gargoyles are, I believe, LG, but I'm not strict on the '-always' alignments. They are the original gargoyles and the others are those who went mad and abandoned their vigil over humanity, if I remember the fluff correctly! And no biggie on the potty mouth... quite a few of my friends are guys and the language gets rough when we play video games!
WHIP IT UP, REDNAL!
Seranov, that trait is acceptable! You, since you have taken that trait, obviously qualify for Dwarven-only stuff, so feel free to explore that! What's Jorn's main 'thing'?
And now I'm thinking about making a Ghost Gunslinger/Shaman... with the Techslinger archetype, reflavored somewhat while still providing an idea of pure, "clean" technology in opposition to horrible things.
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I may have problems. XD If it's vaguely acceptable, though, I'll work on it after dinner.
Lady of Dark Whispers:.....your spoiler....I must roll.
whaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? :P (NO SENSE WAS OBTAINED!!! OH NOEZ!)
REDNAL, WHAT IS THIS YOU SPEAK OF??? IS THIS A PISTOL WRAITH?! :D
SARPADIAN, WHAT IF YOU'RE A WITCH'S FAMILIAR THAT IS ABLE TO SHAPESHIFT AND WAS FREED FROM HER CONTROL WHEN SHE WAS BURNED AT THE STAKE, BUT SHE WHISPERS TO YOU STILL?!!! The Faux Familiar spell from Ravenloft would work amazing on you! You could switch between forms and could function as a familiar for casters who don't have familiars!!! A divine caster could heal using you as a proxy! :D
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Jorn is a no-nonsense Toragian "dwarf" who is a unflinching defender of life and order. He despises the undead with all his being, and it is his mission in life to destroy them, if he cannot give them a more peaceful rest.
Mechanically, he's going to be a frontline fighter who will heal the party through the use of Life Link + Lay on Hands. That won't come online until level 3, but until then he should be a rather capable martial character.
He met the Professor almost entirely by accident: stumbling on his carriage as it was being attacked by a handful of zombies that had killed the driver. After slaying the undead, Jorn drove Lorimmor to the nearest town and bid him good luck, continuing on his journey as a missionary.
It'll be interesting to see how he meshes with any undead PCs! ^_^
Yes to both of your questions! See how interesting that could get? :D
No, no, wraiths are a different type of undead. =D Imagine more of a... floating spirit with the ability to manifest an energy-spewing firearm. I'm pondering Lawful for this character, reinforcing the idea of a ghost driven to bring order to Things That Should Not Be. XD Or something along those lines, anyway - though it'll be a fair few levels before I can actually access good tech stuff. Maybe more reflavoring about how to get it, too... *Rubs chin* Well, I'll see what I can come up with.
Seranov, this made me laugh so hard! XD
Rednal, you know what I mean lol. The Pistol Wraith from the old Iron Kingdoms setting! And you want techie stuff? I can offer some advice on some cool classes!
Sarpadian, it normally just allows the familiar to change shape, makes them really intelligent, personable, and stuff. HOWEVER, since you're not TECHNICALLY a familiar anymore, there are some changes, like you retaining your ability to 'link' with casters and such, since most of the benefits were geared towards making the familiar more NPC-like originally (Since you're a PC, I think it would be cool to go in reverse and let you retain familiar abilities!). If you're interested, I'll provide you racial stats!
i'm definitely carrying over my interest from the other thread! for the time being you can treat my 2 concepts from that thread as my proposals, although my head is spinning with possibilities right now and i think there's an excellent chance that i'll definitely scrap at least one if not both of them (unless i run out of time).
also, i'm just throwing this out there... on my old hard drive i might have a pdf of the 3.x book that broke down monsters into class levels so they could be played with regular PCs if you (GM lady) want to look at it and see how you feel about letting people take those as one side of their gestalt?
edit: Savage Species! totally found it- PM me if you want to see it.
Hm... If I tone down Sallozadeh a bit...
Nate Lange, are you referring to Savage Species? I've got the actual book and I used it back in the day to start breaking down Pathfinder creatures by comparing old creature stats with new and similar creature stats, then working my magic!
Sallozadeh, that would be acceptable!
Sarpadian, give me about an hour and you will have the stats! I'll be doing the conversion as if your character began as a toad.
@Lady Dark, Is a must that the character is a kind of monster? I have submited a inquisitor dwarf on the other thread, and I'm thinking on adding Ace Bolt to it. If it is OK, I have another question to this unfinished (IMO) archetype: What use have it of gunsmithing? Its silly they didin't changed this feature with the archetype. Anyway, the Van Helsing feeling it gives to the inquisitor is really atractive.
EDIT: they don't have even crosbow proficiency... but that is covered by the inquisitor. (I mean the exotics, hand and repeating)
I think I'm gonna keep my original submission of gourmet cannibal tiefling alchemist: preservationist, but gestalt her with brawler and give her a roguish set of skills. Since everyone seems to be suping up with templates I'd like to make her a half umbral dragon as well, it just FEELS right. Rednal, if you're watching, yes, you've seen me try something like this recently.
anyway, here's a re-up of her two fluff posts
To be fair, Ardra is a woman of several reputations. She's a philanthropist who's willing to house and serve the many destitutes who live in the slums where her restaurant is located. She's an ill-mannered host who doesn't take well to criticism of her food or establishment. If you can gin her confidence, she's a loyal and true friend. She makes, bar none, the best blood puddings of anyone in the Inner Sea. That last is the only reason her greasy spoon of a diner has remained solvent, and that barely. Unfortunately, rumor has it that her world famous puddings do not include cow's blood; something which also bears on her reputation. It may not have help that she maintained such poorly named menu items as Long Pork Stew and Warm Rocket and Soilent Green Salad, but it seemed to amuse her to do so.
This last issue did not stop one Professor Lorrimor from visiting her establishment on rare occasions when he was in the area investigating the nearby ancient ruins or consulting with the more scholarly cut-throat organizations in the city. Ardra doted on the professor, not surprising when one considered how a man of HIS reputation would debase himself to visit her shabby demesne and heap such lavish praises upon her skill as a cook. So delighted was he with her particularly unique cuisine that he once even hired her to cater a conference he was holding on the arcane properties of particular pieces of the rarely well preserved undead anatomy (or whatever makes sense).
It was at this very conference that Ardra discovered how dangerous the life of an academic can be. It was her keen eyes which spotted the attendee with the hand crossbow hidden in a springloaded wrist sheath and her knowledge which allowed her to identify the acrid scent of the alchemical poison applied to the loaded bolt. It was her quick wits and fast hands that allowed her to convert the tureen of bearnaise she was carrying into an explosive which blew the man's hands off, saving the professor's life. Finally, after assisting to dispose the body, it was her honeyed sweetbreads pie which sealed the deal when Lorrimor asked her if she'd be willing to come work for him as his personal chef, and occasional spymistress and bodyguard.
Otherwise, mechanically, she's a bit of a melange. with six characters you're likely to have plenty of specialists to choose from, but Ardra will be versatile enough fit whatever role the party needs. She has thief skills; she can buff and do some modest healing with potions; with mutagens and eventually cognotogens she's strong or smart enough at need for combat or or various skill checks; she can lay down cover fire with bombs, and as she gains levels she can summon her own army of either combatants or advisors.