| CaveToad |
3.5 MM wrote:A minotaur stands more than 7 feet tall and weighs about 700 pounds.
Wow, weird proportions. 700 lbs ok, but 7' seems a little on the small end for a Large creature, and 700lbs for 7' is weird. Andre the Giant was 7'4 supposedly and 500lbs.
I think I will go with what I had posted above.
| Tavros |
I'm going with 9-10' tall and 800-1000lbs. One of the other minotaur players messaged me and referred me to the Labyrinth Minotaur entry which states that they are larger and bulkier than regular minotaurs, and gives their size at 11' tall and 1200 lbs. So if you had a high Str and Con, you would be on the upper end of 9-10' and 800-1000lbs.
Sound reasonable?
Sounds good. I'll say Tavros is 9'8" and 920 lbs.
| Xanya Zellor |
That makes him over three times the height of Xanya, she should still be able to reach his thigh I think. Of course Xanya can lift 15 times her own weight during rage with mutagen, though that's still 20 lbs short of lifting Tavros. She puts ants to shame.
| Hseir-shae Sendorus |
I haven't even thought about Hseir's eventual carrying capacity, nor do I want to.
| Lucina Rampant |
How tall is Tavros? In fact it would probably be nice if everyone could list their height and weight on their sheet of they haven't already.
It's listed on my sheet already just in case but for ease of use,
Height: 4'7
Weight: 115 Lbs.
Age: 18
| Champawat |
Haha, thanks!
In his natural form, I see him being 6'10, 225 lbs.
The eventual plan, however, at least 6th druid level, at least one mythic tier, is to wild shape into a gargantuan allosaurus.
It's huge normally, which is the largest available through wild shape.
But with Mythic Powerful Shape,I can apply the Giant Simple template to any form I take.With Mythic Wild Shape, one form I choose no longer takes uses of my wild shape.
Basically, unlimited Gargantuan Allosauruses, as early as 6th if we're mythic by then (doubt it).
We're gonna need a howdah.
| Dalang Teniel |
That makes him over three times the height of Xanya, she should still be able to reach his thigh I think. Of course Xanya can lift 15 times her own weight during rage with mutagen, though that's still 20 lbs short of lifting Tavros. She puts ants to shame.
Have you *seen* ants? Some of them lift a lot more than only 15x their weight.
| Tavros |
Xanya Zellor wrote:That makes him over three times the height of Xanya, she should still be able to reach his thigh I think. Of course Xanya can lift 15 times her own weight during rage with mutagen, though that's still 20 lbs short of lifting Tavros. She puts ants to shame.Have you *seen* ants? Some of them lift a lot more than only 15x their weight.
A quick google search says ants can lift 10-50x their weight.
| Xanya Zellor |
Ok, competing with ants then.
Also Xanya has not really shown any affection towards any of the PCs before... She has shown affection for Goodwin in public though. A change in mindset has allowed her to start considering other options.
| Hseir-shae Sendorus |
Grobly, whether or not you decide to take Bat Shaman, once you start playing, you can't change.
It alters Wild Empathy, so you need to decide now.
As for Bat Shaman itself, I'm not sure how powerful it is.
Not sure how many summon options or wild shape options there are, and it doesn't really look that powerful.
You only get two Totem Transformation options at 2nd level, bite (1d4) which I think you already have, and blindsense 20 ft, which is situationally useful.
If you want muy opinion, I'd say no.
My question was more in general.
I'm obviously going full combat druid, are you too?
Or more caster? Buffer?
Edit: nothing to do with you, Grobly, but changed my special item to an amulet, hoping for Amulet of Mighty Fists.
Will just rely on my natural weapons, then.
They are more....natural, afterall.
| Lucina Rampant |
Would anyone be offended I made a list of people that posted in gameplay with a short bit about how Lucina would view them since they lived together?
| Mlinzi Nwosu |
@Lucina, not at all. It might help me, I know.
| Goivan |
Would we be offended if you took notes of the names and your character's perspective of our characters?
Well I really, really hope not. Even if somebody believed you badly represented their character, it's not their place to tell you what you think. What it sounds like is that you're making a personal list for reference to keep track of names and basic character relationships, which I simply view as admirable bookkeeping.
| Tavros |
It'd actually also serve to tell us quite a bit about your character. And I think it'd be interesting.
| Mlinzi Nwosu |
I second what Goivan and Tavros said. I see this as a good opportunity to see how my portrayal of the character is coming off.
| Grobly |
+'s as to what the others are saying concerning your wants for public notes Lucina.
As for what Kinda druid I will be- mostly buffer/caster. I will be focusing on barbarian for damage and alchemist for additional buffs / utility
| Xanya Zellor |
I think it actually would be nice if everyone makes such a thing for more imersement and fun for all, though it's probably easier to handle once we are split into tables.
| Shaeyl Nygct |
Sounds like an interesting and potentially fun exercise.
| Makoto 'Maks' Kasumi |
I -think- Maks is satisfactorily finished.
I intend to go with Aegis with my Twin Mind, and I'm completely uncertain of cheese dips at this time. I feel as though I am feat starved (given all the things I really want to take at 3 :p)
Off to gameplay to figure out what's up.
| Dave Herman |
Here's a question: How are we handling feat prereqs for our weapon? Do we use the character only, the weapon only, or the character and weapon both?
Also, I don't think I got a response to my question about using unchained rules for bloodraging.
And finally, made a couple of last minute modifications to Greebins before real gameplay starts. Changed Dervish of Dawn fighter (it only had one ability I actually wanted, the rest were mostly supersede by dervish dancer abilities) to Two-Weapon fighter, and removed clever cat for augmented Dex and claws
| Mlinzi Nwosu |
I don't know what to do at this point. We're not supposed to be rolling or interacting with the environment, so lifting Mlinzi wouldn't be productive. He'd be down for it, but it's not going to help much.
| Xanya Zellor |
Can I ask for permission to cast Darkness IC?
| Xanya Zellor |
I want a replacement for Berserker of Society as I don't think I need it since Wilder will give me so many Rage rounds. I can't decide on what to pick though. Anyone got any good suggestions?
| Champawat |
I want a replacement for Berserker of Society as I don't think I need it since Wilder will give me so many Rage rounds. I can't decide on what to pick though. Anyone got any good suggestions?
You can't have both Reactionary and Berserker of the Society anyway since they're both Combat traits. I would recommend Defensive Strategist since you're losing Uncanny Dodge. It is a Religion trait.
"You aren't flat-footed during a surprise round that you don't get to act in or before you get to act at the start of a battle."
| Xanya Zellor |
I am pretty sure berserker of the society is a campaign trait. I do already have a religion trait sadly otherwise I would definately pick up Second Chance. Maybe I can pick up a different trait to get diplomacy and get second chance from religion.
For character advancement is it a good idea to make a list over feats/abilties etc that you would like to aquire through boons/artifacts etc that is not accessible through the game? For example stuff from 3.5? Or is that a waste?
| Tavros |
I don't know what to do at this point. We're not supposed to be rolling or interacting with the environment, so lifting Mlinzi wouldn't be productive. He'd be down for it, but it's not going to help much.
Yeah...there's only so much you can RP since I think at this point a lot of people would be like "Stop talking and do stuff!" but obviously we can't really do stuff yet. And it's not really clear that idle chit-chat given the circumstances really makes sense. Although personally, I just like the mental image of giant monkey tower. It's almost as awesome as just seeing how how he can toss someone (which would probably require rolls to catch people at least). Even though that doesn't help as much as flying, which we already had someone do.
| Makoto 'Maks' Kasumi |
As it was requested (and because I can't figure out where I'd like to put it in my character sheet), I've made the following list so far. Asterisks indicate that I feel I don't have enough to go on to make a more accurate assessment. I very probably looked at your profile a bit, either way, to try to make the best one I could. Most of it is still based off of in-character interactions. Hopefully it helps you guys, and if you feel I should be seeing something I didn't, then hit me up! :)
Grobly: Survivalist/Scout. Excitable. Mischievous. Not attractive. Always hungry. A little crazy.
Goivan: Good at perspective. Attractive. Probably bad for cuddles.
Xanya: Bossy, way too flippant and thus, probably unreliable. Very Attractive. On the muscular side. With apparently very obvious breasts. But Crazy. Sadistic Crazy.
Mlinzi: Helpful. Energetic. Not entirely unattractive. Would probably look better with a different hairstyle.
Hseir: Pragmatic. Kind. Not unattractive, could do with more color.*
Tavros: Seems to have a herd instinct. Very thoughtful and considerate. Not unattractive. Very much on the larger side. Needs more color.
Karkoran: Seems like a loose cannon. Gripped by some sort of outsider. But he's trying. See Tavros.
Quassine: Long-winded. nearly speaks in the third person. Tentacle monster. Somehow not unattractive.*
Champawat: Anxious. Not unattractive. Probably very warm.*
Dalang: Bossy, but pragmatic. Creates questions, rather than answering them. Strangely attractive. Could use hair.
Eleanor: Sensible, in that she wishes for shoes. Not sensible in suggesting we not make preparations. Quite attractive.
Tor: Quite Attractive, if the wrong kind of dog; could be more fluffy.
Greebins: Incites chaos. Quite attractive, also a dancer. Probably warm and fluffy. Not the best attitude.
| Tavros |
Tavros: ... Needs more color.
Solution: Give him a bright red cape and tell him it'd work perfectly for his paso doble routine. Then proceed with the rest of the bull-fighter outfit. ;-)
| Champawat |
I am pretty sure berserker of the society is a campaign trait. I do already have a religion trait sadly otherwise I would definately pick up Second Chance. Maybe I can pick up a different trait to get diplomacy and get second chance from religion.
For character advancement is it a good idea to make a list over feats/abilties etc that you would like to aquire through boons/artifacts etc that is not accessible through the game? For example stuff from 3.5? Or is that a waste?
There are numerous traits to get diplomacy as a class skill. Trustworthy (Social) is one. Woodland Diplomat (Regional) is another. Berserker of the Society is a combat trait. Feel free to look it up. None of the "society" traits are campaign traits.
| Dalang Teniel |
You can't have both Reactionary and Berserker of the Society anyway since they're both Combat traits. I would recommend Defensive Strategist since you're losing Uncanny Dodge. It is a Religion trait.
Berserker of the Society is definitely combat. Paragon of Speed gives you +2 Initiative as a regional trait.
| Eleanor Sibyl |
Eleanor: Sensible, in that she wishes for shoes. Not sensible in suggesting we not make preparations. Quite attractive.
I just didn't want half of us to stand around for an hour doing nothing, when we can take a look around and see what we're dealing with. I don't see the point in discussing whats more important to our survival before we know what we do and don't have at our disposal.
| Xanya Zellor |
Xanya doesn't have that large breasts... Maybe a D cup scaled down to her size? Why are you rating the characters by attractiveness? Is it just to flesh out your character or something more. I feel like I am missing something...
In the PFS guide it says the pfs traits count as campaign traits. Still, I am going to change it either way. Can I pick the Princess trait on the basis as she was chosen/divined as important to her tribe or do I need to make her in line of succession to take it?
It seems to me like pretty much all the rage powers are weaker for UC barbarian. Am I missing something? Or is it just that you aren't supposed to go UC barbarian with Ferocious Mount? It's starting to seem like an awful lot to pay for getting temp hp instead of con-boost. Could someone point out anything else from UC that would actually be better than the base barbarian powers? I suppose it's not too late to switch back.
| Xanya Zellor |
I chose it because the math was easier and they fixed some of the useless powers.
Which powers are fixed?
| Dalang Teniel |
None of the UC barbarian rage powers are 1/rage. If you don't rage cycle, this makes most of them quite a bit stronger.
| Makoto 'Maks' Kasumi |
My character is a paladin of Shelyn, who is very focused on things such as beauty, aesthetics and the like. :) It's more a flavor thing. She's also a bit of a flirt.
The comments on breasts came from your repetitively pointing them out for an entire post. :P They seemed important to her/you... so they made the list. :)
UC Barbarian Powers are -strictly- more awesome if you weren't ever going to hit level 17, or jump through the hoops required to break rage (rage cycling). I wouldn't ever allow current Skald or Bloodrager access to those powers. I'm not sure what the Powers-That-Be's stance happens to be.
| Xanya Zellor |
My character is a paladin of Shelyn, who is very focused on things such as beauty, aesthetics and the like. :) It's more a flavor thing. She's also a bit of a flirt.
The comments on breasts came from your repetitively pointing them out for an entire post. :P They seemed important to her/you... so they made the list. :)
UC Barbarian Powers are -strictly- more awesome if you weren't ever going to hit level 17, or jump through the hoops required to break rage (rage cycling). I wouldn't ever allow current Skald or Bloodrager access to those powers. I'm not sure what the Powers-That-Be's stance happens to be.
Ah, a paladin of Shelyn :). That could be fun. Xanya probably wouldn't have been very susceptible to her flirting in the past, but now she could be ;).
I like detailed descriptions to improve immersion. That's the same reason I describe her thoughts and feelings. More immersion is more fun for me.
| Lucina Rampant |
How would Sorcerous Strike work with dreamshaper? it says it works like Modify memory which says the caster can spend up to five minutes modifying the memory, would they stand there for 5 minutes while i did it or would i be helpless until i stopped modifying?
| Goivan |
Casting the spell takes 1 round. If the subject fails to save, you proceed with the spell by spending as much as 5 minutes (a period of time equal to the amount of memory you want to modify) visualizing the memory you wish to modify in the subject. If your concentration is disturbed before the visualization is complete, or if the subject is ever beyond the spell's range during this time, the spell is lost.
So you would only be able to modify their memory for as long as you can remain in contact with them. For grappling that would probably work pretty well. For just hitting them you would only be able to modify a split second of their memory.
| Xanya Zellor |
I think we should use the time to split into tables IC.
We are going to be split based on activity though, so it doesn't make sense to team up if we are going to be put in different groups anyway.
| Makoto 'Maks' Kasumi |
Speaking of splitting: I've had good success with Tavros and Dalang's players previously (and currently!), so I'd be happy to go with them. Otherwise, no strong preference, thus far. :) (Other than wanting to go with Lucina, of course. :))
Speaking of Modify Memory: It actually has a range that isn't touch; this just allows her to cast it as a swift action when she punches someone. It's definitely a DM call for how 'out of it' her character is while using it.
| Makoto 'Maks' Kasumi |
It doesn't say that, though. Maybe there's an FAQ I missed somewhere, but nothing changes the range there. Only the target (it's now limited to the creature she hit) and the action it takes to activate it (now a swift action). :)
| Mlinzi Nwosu |
Mlinzi Nwosu wrote:I don't know what to do at this point. We're not supposed to be rolling or interacting with the environment, so lifting Mlinzi wouldn't be productive. He'd be down for it, but it's not going to help much.Yeah...there's only so much you can RP since I think at this point a lot of people would be like "Stop talking and do stuff!" but obviously we can't really do stuff yet. And it's not really clear that idle chit-chat given the circumstances really makes sense. Although personally, I just like the mental image of giant monkey tower. It's almost as awesome as just seeing how how he can toss someone (which would probably require rolls to catch people at least). Even though that doesn't help as much as flying, which we already had someone do.
Well, I've got a pretty decent Acrobatics skill, and an epic climb skill. Eventually, I'll be getting Slow Fall, I think, so we could totally try launching Mlinzi into the air and see how high he goes.