Have at it guys.
here. havent made the alias yet, going to try to do so this weekend.
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Here you go, Tenro:
Otherworldly Patron: Fallen Warrior
(Credit to Polydeuces on ENWorld for the bulk of this, minor tweaks by me)
You have made a pact with a spirit or vestige that was once a great warrior. Some of these lingering shades may be altruistic, while others crave only an outlet for revenge. The crusader priest Arnd, the demigod Murlynd, the vampire Kas the Bloody-Handed and the Oeridian warlord Lum the Mad are all suitable fallen warrior patrons.
Fallen Warrior Expanded Spell List
1: heroism, command
2: branding smite, spiritual weapon
3: phantom steed, elemental weapon
4: fire shield, freedom of movement
5: geas, destructive wave
Tools of the Fallen (Level 1)
You gain proficiency in medium armor, shields and any weapons with the versatile property.
Veteran's Greeting (Level 6)
Starting at level six, your patron gives you the ability to respond to those that would test your presence. When a creature willingly enters your melee range, you may use your reaction to make a weapon attack against that creature. You may use this feature a number of times equal to your Charisma modifier, and you regain all expended uses when you finish a long rest.
Warrior's Resilience (Level 10)
Starting at level 10, you can invoke your patron's ability to shrug off damage. At the end of a short or long rest, you choose a damage type with the exception of radiant damage. You have resistance against that type of damage until you choose a different one using this feature. Damage from magical weapons ignores this resilience.
Strike of the Fallen (Level 14)
Starting at level 14, when you hit a creature with an attack, you can allow your patron to deliver a crushing strike of their own. The target is crushed with a physical damage type of your choice, instantly dealing 7d10 physical damage. This damage counts as magical, and ignores resistances. Additionally, the creature is knocked prone, stunned, and disarmed until the end of its next turn. Once you use this feature, you cannot do so again until you finish a long rest.
Heyo! Guess I better get off my butt and write up my character background properly :p
Here you go, Tenro:
Thanks.
I saw another person in Recruitment mention fancying a Warlock, but if i recall correctly you said only one would be allowed since it is a special option. Doesn't bother me if there is another warlock, but I figured I wouldnt go over there and dash their dreams either.
I am getting excited about the game. The setting is so rich. Hey Tenro, if you are still thinking knights of the dispatch, perhaps we have a connection or are working together...
Here you go, Tenro:
Thanks.
I saw another person in Recruitment mention fancying a Warlock, but if i recall correctly you said only one would be allowed since it is a special option. Doesn't bother me if there is another warlock, but I figured I wouldnt go over there and dash their dreams either.
I wouldn't allow another with the same patron. A second warlock would be a long shot, but I wouldn't rule it out if the concept blew me away... So we'll see.
Sounds good Koralyn. It seems i would most likely be a lower/barely affiliated person. I guess more like when they really need to fill out a squad on short notice, like a squad comes back a man or two short and they have another mission right away.
If you two want to have some affiliation with the Knights of the Dispatch, it would probably be as deniable assets, answering to a knight handler. You might or might not be actual vigils/initiates, but your membership would not be public.
Revised bonus feats for Morten and Lady K. Tenro, still looking for ideas for your character ... It could be something that fills in some abilities from his time as a soldier, or I was thinking about some sort of death knell/soul siphon ability that would grant you some of the benefits of a short rest (spend hit dice to heal, recover a spell slot, etc.) when you inflict the killing blow on an enemy.
Silver-Tongued Scoundrel
Your charm has earned you a reputation as a dashing rake. And while deception comes naturally to you, you have a habit of leaving enemies in your wake.
* You gain proficiency with a musical instrument of your choice
* You have advantage on Charisma (Deception) and Charisma (Persuasion) checks against people who could be attracted to you
* If you fail a Charisma-based skill check against a target you may use this feat to turn the failure into a success, but the target of the check will later become hostile to you as if it had been the target of the friends cantrip. You may not use this ability again until you have completed a long rest.
Agent of the Valley
Your kind have few friends outside the Valley of the Mage, but you have learned how to pass unnoticed among men.
* You are proficient in the Deception skill and with disguise kits. You may use your Intelligence modifier instead of your Charisma modifier when making checks with either proficiency.
* You know the disguise self spell and can cast it once per short rest without using a spell slot. Your proficiency bonus is doubled when calculating the spell save DC to see through the disguise.
* When you cast disguise self, you can extend the spell's duration beyond 1 hour by maintaining concentration.
That death knell one sounds cool (i say, not knowing the 5e spell) although i tend to shy away from killing blow related things since it is such a fickle thing, i try to go for things that happen a little more regularly or are at least a little more predictable (part of why i never make crit-fishing builds)
Mmm, I can totally understand that. I'm the same :)
Ok kids, I've picked your new party members:
Dragomir Vuk, human mercenary fighter; Kierdan, a human cleric of Pelor; and Alistair Orm, paranoid human evoker, should all be joining us shortly.
I'll need to work up bonus feats for them, and start checking character sheets.
Tenro - try to get your profile worked up, too. I'll try to work on your feat this weekend, too. I'll probably write it so it keys off anyone dying near you, not just those you kill. I want it to be something you can reliably use mid-combat, but not be too overpowered, since several warlock powers reset every rest. I'll play around with it some more when I have time with my books.
Alrighty, i'll focus on it this weekend, probably saturday AM beforr the wife starts making demands of me. If i get her drunk enough maybe she will sleep in! Hahaha
Thanks for picking me - I am hoping its my simplistic down to earth personality that got me over the line ahead of some very cool characters.
You'll most likely find me as the doorman and bouncer at The Streamview Tavern on its busier nights but I've been nosing around for some good paying work as well. I need a stake so I can look towards getting married and setting up a business... and truth be told? I miss the action I used to see when I was a full time mercenary.
Hello everyone,
I want to echo what Dragomir said and say thanks for picking me! I am so excited to be back in Greyhawk. This will be my first 5E campaign and I am looking forward to learning about the new system. The way spells are done seems really interesting.
Right now, I only have access to the downloadable Basic Rules, but I plan on getting a PHB at the end of the month, after Christmas.
Looking forward to meeting the rest of the party!
Like Dragomir and Kierdan, I would like to thank you for choosing Alistair for this game! I hope his crazy conspiracies and theories will keep you all entertained, and his magic keep you safe!
Thanks
Now to solve the mystery of his missing background!!!
Welcome again to everyone, and sorry for not posting yesterday. Getting all the work done to prepare for being out of the office for two weeks makes me question whether it's worth taking vacation in the first place ...
That said, I'm going to be in and out of town (and Internet connectivity) for the next two weeks. My plan is to start the game right after New Year's, rather than try to force it during a time when everyone is likely to have various holiday distractions. So everyone has some time to get to know one another, finish characters, etc. I'm going to get various resources added to the Campaign Info tab, as well.
I've talked to a couple of people about bonus feats, and I think Lady K, Morten and Dragomir are squared away. I've got an idea for Tenro's character that needs fleshing out.
Alistair, you had mentioned being the apprentice of a dishonored wizard. I also like that you are an evoker and (non-magical) healer. I was thinking perhaps your old master was a necromancer. You rejected some of the darker arts, but picked up a bit of blood magic represented by a feat that might let you boost the power of a spell by burning some of your own blood, or use a sample of a target's blood to overcome its elemental resistances (handy for an evoker). Does that interest you, or do you have other ideas?
Kierdan, I had two ideas for you. One would be some kind of "Elf-friend" feat, that might give you some elf-like abilities (longsword and longbow proficiency, maybe Perception/Stealth, and a ritual to gain darkvision) to represent the time you spent with the elves. The other idea would be some kind of "Priest of Pelor" feat adding some light or fire type abilities/spells known. Let me know what you think.
- pirate flag? doesnt make sense in the area, i dont think.
if reroll is allowed: - that makes more sense
Can we open the game thread and set a scene so we can start Role Play with each other?
Kierdan, I had two ideas for you. One would be some kind of "Elf-friend" feat, that might give you some elf-like abilities (longsword and longbow proficiency, maybe Perception/Stealth, and a ritual to gain darkvision) to represent the time you spent with the elves. The other idea would be some kind of "Priest of Pelor" feat adding some light or fire type abilities/spells known. Let me know what you think.
Maybe giving him a second domain? Pretty nifty. Or wizards firebolt cantrip as an Orison? Fits closely with the elves ability for 1 cantrip.
Here is a good site also for fan made stuff... archetypes, feats etc.
http://www.enworld.org/forum/5efeats/browsecategory.php?c=1
Here is the alias for Tenro's character.
Still need to finish purchasing gear.
My Spell DC is 14, that seems kinda (very) low? Am I correct in calculating it as 8 + 2 (proficiency bonus) + 4 (my Charisma is 18)?
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Also, where do i see critical info? is longsword 19-20 or just 20?
DC 14 is actually pretty good -- numbers are much lower in 5E. And all weapons just crit on a 20, unless you have a special ability. On the is plus side, you don't have to roll to confirm anymore.
Typical for level 1 characters is DC13... 14 is good as the save stats tend to be lower too. Once you hit level 5 your proficiency bonus will go to +3, boosting your DC to 15. Check out my saves. Unless you target str or con I am likely to be screwed.
Kierdan, I had two ideas for you. One would be some kind of "Elf-friend" feat, that might give you some elf-like abilities (longsword and longbow proficiency, maybe Perception/Stealth, and a ritual to gain darkvision) to represent the time you spent with the elves. The other idea would be some kind of "Priest of Pelor" feat adding some light or fire type abilities/spells known. Let me know what you think.
These are two great ideas. I have been thinking about them all day and I think I finally made up my mind.
The "elf-friend" feat sounds wonderful. Kierdan spent a year and a half in the Oytwood and he got along well with the elves there. He also remains grateful to the assistance they rendered to him and his family. I fully intend to play Kierdan as someone who is allied with the elves and I hope to develop a relationship with the Autumn Court.
However,
He was only in the Oytwood for 18 months. He has had a close association with the faith of Pelor his entire life. Pelor is known as the "Sun Father" and is the Flan sun god, yet Kierdan is only representing his healing aspect. The more I think about it, the more I lean to a "Priest of Pelor" type feat.
I wanted to send out a welcome to our new players and say that I am looking forward to gaming with you. I know Helaman from previous games but its been a while.
Interesting that this party will have two wizards. We shill see how the paranoid wizard gets along with the valley elf wizard. Valley Elves are in general not trusted by anyone. lol.
Oh, and I second opening up the gameplay threat to let us dot if nothing else. Its only random luck that I saw that selections were made since this thread does not show up on my list of active games.
I like your idea DM, but I see his background as a little different. I wrote up his history for you to take a look at. I hope this version is OK, and explains some of his oddities...and gives you some interesting plot lines to investigate!
Alistair was born in Hornwood Town in the year 229CY to Keat and Gyth Orm. The Orm’s were merchants involved in the trade of hornwood from the famed forest that nearly surrounded their home. Doing quite well in his craft, when young Alistair showed an aptitude for magic, the Orm’s apprenticed him to Cabel Starcloak, a moderately well-known wizard who just happened to live just outside of Hornwood Town. In 571CY young Alistair began his training into the mysterious arts of magic. An intelligent boy, he quickly grasped the basics, and over the next 12 years, refined his abilities, until on his 24th birthday, Cabel presented him with his spellbook and a very ornate backpack with a strange fur flap. Both became treasured items to the young mage.
Unfortunately, his opportunity to set himself up as a magic-user for hire was short lived, as the Giant Invasion of 584CY disrupted the entire Grand Duchy. His master had departed his tower the year before (the same year Alistair ‘graduated’ ), and it fell to the young mage to help in the defense of the town. It was not long, however, before the sheer pressure of giants forced the town council to issue an evacuation notice to all citizens. A stream of humanity swept to the east, followed closely by the giants. It was during this chaos that Alistair’s parents were killed. A group of refugees were cut off from the main band, and a troop of giants and ogres decimated them. It was not until he reached the safe haven of Hochoch that he learned of this tragedy.
For a year he helped with the defense of the city, as well as accompanying a number of parties into the now giant-infested countryside, looking for any survivors and using hit-and-run tactics against the giants and their evil allies. It was on one of these trips that they rescued a number of people trapped in the cellar of a ruined tower. As they were helping the poor souls out of the ruin, a flash of dark blue and silver caught his eye. Examining the refugees, he discovered one he knew, his old master Cabel. The wizard looked to have aged 50 years since his apprentice last saw him. Once Cabel recognized the boy, he begged him to take him to the leaders of Hochoch, for he had important information for the leadership. Surprised, and hopeful, Alistair took his mentor to the council and was shocked to hear his tale.
The wizard had been sent to examine some rumors of tribal unrest in the Barrier Peaks, and when the giants attacked, found himself behind the enemy lines. A resourceful magic-user, Cabel immediately began to gather information on numbers, types and leadership of the giants. This led him to discover the location of the Hill Giant leaders fortress. Still being build, Cabel scouted the area and discovered it had been built on the ruin of a far older building. Delving into the dungeon beneath the current building, he came across a hidden temple, and what he saw there nearly unhinged his mind. He babbled of a great “eye” and an ancient elemental god who was awakening and would soon destroy the world. His manner became more frantic as the council seemed to disbelieve him and finally dismiss him from the chamber. For weeks he continued to try and tell his story to any who would listen. Unfortunately for him, Alistair became the “care taker” for the obviously insane wizard. His friends and allies began to stay away from him and the Mad Wizard, but the young mage knew his master, and while some of his ravings were the product of a broken mind, some were not. He spent time listening and sorting out all the information his former master told him, and soon a very chilling scenario began to take shape. A cult of Elder Elemental Gods was forming, and the giant threat would be as nothing if someone did not do something to keep this evil rom rising.
So for the last 2 years, Allister and his mentor scanned books, scrolls and any other source of information they could find. Then, one cool October day, Cabel disappeared. Alistair was frantic trying to find the old man, until, several weeks later, he had to admit his defeat. His old master had been taken by the cult. He began to suspect everyone was a hidden agent of the Elder Elemental Gods, and became even more withdrawn. The council finally cut off all contact with him, and soon he was out in the refugee camp, helping the poor and weak survive against the oppression of the government.
Alistair: Looks great. Let me think a bit about a feat.
Everyone: I've opened the gameplay thread for anyone who wants to roleplay a bit before we start in earnest.
"valley elf" makes me think of "valley girls" like from the movie Clueless.
"Like, OMG"
Ok, drafts of the remaining bonus feats. Let me know what you think - I'm happy to tweaking or starting over if these don't appeal:
Alistair:
Paranoid Planner
They’re out there, waiting, spinning webs of intrigue incomprehensible to the ignorant masses. But you know. And you’ll be ready whenever they strike.
* You are proficient with the Insight skill and may use your Intelligence modifier instead of your Wisdom modifier when making Insight checks.
* You have advantage on saving throws against enchantment spells and special abilities that would charm or dominate you.
* As a reaction, you may replace some of your prepared spells with other spells from your spellbook. You may replace a number of prepared spells equal to your Intelligence modifier. Once you have used this ability you cannot use it again until you complete a long rest.
Kierdan:
Disciple of the Dawn
You have devoted your life to the service of the Sun Father and wield his radiance as a shield, a salve and a sword.
* You have advantage on saving throws against any spell or effect that would leave you blinded.
* When you cast a spell that deals radiant damage, you may choose to deal fire damage instead. Likewise, you may choose to deal radiant damage with spells that normally deal fire damage.
* Add flameblade, daylight and fire shield to your list of domain spells at the appropriate levels.
Eldramin:
Hungry Soul
You have survived several brushes with death and have learned to sacrifice the souls of other to protect your own.
* You gain a +1 to your Constitution score. (Or, if you’d rather, we could do resistance to necrotic damage)
* You have advantage on death saving throws.
* When an unconscious creature within 30 feet of you makes a death saving throw, you may use your reaction to give it disadvantage on the roll. You may immediately spend Hit Dice to heal yourself as if you had completed a short rest.
That seems cool. Not sure if I should go with the Constitution or resistance. How does resistance work, I don't recall having seen numbers listed for how much you resist when you have "resistance"
You take half damage. Necrotic is fairly common among undead and other typical bad guys, but I wanted to give you the option of the Con boost if you wanted something that want situational.
That is really cool! I think it fits him perfectly. Thanks...will add it to his character sheet now. Just a question, to replace a spell, as my INT modifier is +5, does that mean I can replace the 6 spells whenever I want, or do I have to do it all at once (for example, I suddenly need Knock, so I switch out, say Scorching Ray, but then a little later (no rest) I decide I need Tenser's Floating Disk, and swap out Magic Missile) or does it all have to be done at once?
Cannot wait to start...so excited about this character and playing in Greyhawk again!
I'll probably go with the Necrotic Resistance then. My CON is so low (and an even number) that 1 point won't help me, it'll be 4 levels before I can increase it to an even number.
I saw we had a good number of melee folks, so i went with more of a ranged character, but in trying to add some resilience to him, ended up with a bit of a switch-hitter. I'm just more likely to hit with the eldritch blast than a weapon.
although.... do you think it would be wise for me to swap abilities around a bit, put less in strength, and more in DEX? I could take that feat later that lets me add 3 dex to medium armor instead of 2, or i could take that now at the cost of 2pts to CHA. which i probably wouldnt, i'd just wait since melee won't get decent till later anyway.
if i wear medium armor with 16 dex, do i still get +3 to hit with finesse weapons, or is that likewise limited to a +2 bonus by the medium armor?
I like Kierdan's bonus feat! Thanks very much. I think it fits him well.
One question, though, are flameblade, daylight and fire shield in the PHB? I don't see them in the online Basic Rules. If they are in the PHB, it is no big deal, I plan on picking it up after Christmas.
Whoops, neglected this a little (or uh... a lot. oops). Hi new guys! Welcome to the team :) Uhh, things are starting to get hectic, and uh... fallout 4 (>_>) but I'll do my best to finish up Morten :s
Interested in seeing how a Swashbuckler plays out - I really enjoy the concept.
Alistair: You just get the one opportunity per day to swap out spells, and can swap out a total equal to your Intelligence modifier (which looks to be 4, currently). It's meant so that, if the party gets ambushed or encounters something unexpected (an undead dragon, say, when you were prepared for a horde of orcs) you can quickly adjust your loadout.
Also, after looking at your ability scores, I think you have shortchanged yourself. You can use the standard array (15, 14, 13, 12, 10, 8) or point-buy with 27 points. Yours add up to just 21 points, if I'm counting correctly. So go ahead and give yourself some extra points to bring Alistair up to par.
Eldramin: Armor doesn't hamper your Dex in any way other than limiting how you can add to your AC. Attacks are unaffected, so if you want to focus more on Dex now it would benefit your attack bonus. The balanced approach you have now isn't bad, however, because it helps with saves and gives you some flexibility if you find a nice magic weapon - if you've already gone whole hog into Dex, you're kind of stuck with finesse weapons. And if you're not going to focus on melee until later, putting off the decision won't really hurt.
Kierdan: Yep, they're all in the PHB. If your purchase gets delayed let me know and I'll type up the details and PM them to you.
Morten: I have been battling the same post-apocalyptic addiction. Luckily (?) the story is kind of lame this time around (although the game's still fun), leaving me plenty of time to keep thinking up details for this game!
So my main concerns are my AC, weapon attack, spell attack and spell DCs. Are these numbers for Eldramin at acceptable levels? I dont want to be hamstrung by a lack of knowledge of what passable-to-good numbers are.
Yep, you are A-Ok. Your AC and spell numbers are on the high end of average for level 4, melee attacks about the minimum of what I'd call average, but within the expected range and quite serviceable. Target numbers are a lot lower, too, so it all works out.
I think I have updated Alistair...adding some more DEX to help his AC and combat a bit.
There were a few items I wanted to ask about before play that Alistair could have created. With his herbalist kit he can create healing potions and antitoxin. Would it be out of character for him to have produced a few of each...say 1 healing potion per party member and 2 antitoxin? Also with his ability to cast continual flame, he could create an everburning torch...if you would allow it (paid for by creating healing potions!)
Finally, I think I am going to need some rules on the creation of potions (non-magical). There is a lot of home ruled suggestions, but some make no sense what so ever. The best I saw was a cost of 1/2 the value of the item and a 3 day brewing time. Not too sure if there was a roll or anything at the end of that, but it was mentioned you could brew upto 1/2 your INT modifier of potions at one time. Anyway, I will leave this to your decision.
"valley elf" makes me think of "valley girls" like from the movie Clueless.
"Like, OMG"
LOL. So how annoyed would everyone be if I wrote all my posts like that IC? Oh wait. I can't because no one is suppose to know that she is from the valley. :) You guys got lucky.
That would have been awesome...maybe if we do discover it (from some 'slips' in your local accent), then you can goo full Valley Girl! Nightstar...is that sort of like Moon Unit!!..lol
I don't know if any of you remember the song "Valley Girl" from the '80s. Dragon Magazine had a parody of it in one of their April Fools issues called "Valley Elf".
Ok, I just googled it. It was in issue #72, April 1983. It is pretty horrible.
Note that I still have to finalize my spells. Any strong recommendations?
Well take a look at what Alistair has and see if there is anything we need or should duplicate. I am sure he might be willing to let another magic user scribe some of his spells for some of yours :-)
As to your question on casting spells on the game page...here is what the book says:
Verbal (V )
Most spells require the chanting o f mystic w ords. The words themselves aren’t the source o f the spell’s power; rather, the particular combination o f sounds, with specific pitch and resonance, sets the threads o f magic in motion. Thus, a character who is gagged or in an area o f silence, such as one created by the silence spell, can’t cast a spell with a verbal component.
Somatic (S)
Spellcasting gestures might include a forceful gesticulation or an intricate set o f gestures. If a spell requires a somatic component, the caster must have free use o f at least one hand to perform these gestures.
Material (M )
Casting some spells requires particular objects, specified in parentheses in the component entry. A character can use a component pouch or a spellcasting focus (found in chapter 5) in place of
the components specified for a spell. But if a cost is indicated for a component, a character must have that specific component before he or she can cast the spell.
If a spell states that a material component is consumed by the spell, the caster must provide this component for each casting o f the spell.
A spellcaster must have a hand free to access these components, but it can be the same hand that he or she uses to perform somatic components.
Rituals
Certain spells have a special tag: ritual. Such a spell can be cast following the normal rules for spellcasting, or the spell can be cast as a ritual. The ritual version of a spell takes 10 minutes longer to cast than normal.
It also doesn’t expend a spell slot, which means the ritual version o f a spell can’t be cast at a higher level. To cast a spell as a ritual, a spellcaster must have a feature that grants the ability to do so. The cleric and the druid, for example, have such a feature. The caster must also have the spell prepared or on his or her list o f spells known, unless the character’s ritual feature specifies
otherwise, as the wizard’s does.
That being said, Alistair would look like he was reading a book, mumbling to himself while making strange actions with his hands. Any magic user would probably know what he was doing.
If you are strongly opposed to him doing this I can simply drop it..I dont want to ruin your character's secret. But that being said, if Alistair does notice anything odd about her, he will dig into it..it is his paranoia that drives him to knowing if a person is safe or "one of them!" lol
Yeah, thats my understanding as well - it has to be an actual ritual, not something that looks innocuous (chanting, symbols, possibly candles etc) but I'll leave that as a GM call.
Based on the rules Lady K quoted, I don't think it would be possible to conceal a ritual casting, which involves taking your time and doing things precisely (and ritualistically). To cast innocuously using a spell slot, I'd say either a Charisma (Deception) or Dexterity (Sleight of Hand) roll opposed by Wisdom (Insight or Perception) or even Intelligence (Arcana) would handle it.
Generally with 5E, I'm open to letting you try things that aren't necessarily covered by the RAW, but it will usually involve a skill/ability check or opposed roll. You'll typically have some latitude as to which skill -- if I ask for Intelligence (Investigation) but you can make a case that Wisdom (Healing) applies, I'll let you go with it.
Well then forget it...he will not want to draw any unwanted attention to himself. He will just sit quietly and wait for the green sash person then.