| Dvalin Fafnirson |
@boram...while i'm also hurt, you are significantly squishier right now. So I'd take the lead in this case. It's not that much difference-
with trap sense i'm at 6 perception for traps, and if stonecunning applies, thats another +2 for 8. And darkvision, so no real need for a light source down here that could give our position away(I suspect you are used to dwarfs in tunnels not having torches ready, having a history with them...)
| Boram the Burglar |
yep, that's why I asked about any light in the basement, not going to light a torch or anything. I did get candles for detail work :), Like I said, I don't see much difference between who does the trap thing, and Boram can aid if there is light! I'm just sad I wasted the 25 on stealth and 25 on perception, may not see that in a long time.
| Yarask of House Dace |
So, what do we do now? Open one of the doors? Bash the portcullis down? Get back and leave everything as it is? The fighting to this point has been pretty brutal and we are not well equipped when it comes to ranged fighting and healing.
| Dvalin Fafnirson |
well, i already stated i'll try to open the door/the portcullis, so I suppose we will take a look, at least.
If some nasty surprise lurks, we should be able to either surround it if it gives pursuit, or, if not intelligent, lure it over to the bear traps(jump over them with acrobatics) and utilize those in our favor.
The point is, we can come back better equipped with healing but whoever was here last night and obviously noticed us for some reason despite us trying to be stealthy, could come back and prepare more nasty surprises than a few bear traps...
| Dvalin Fafnirson |
Open the door to the west of Augier
Are you sure thats not the door
The lower left door is inaccessible now. The door to the rubble room is accessible.
referred to?
I just said I'd open the closest door that is openable...because i'm rather confused at this time.
| Dvalin Fafnirson |
Aye, Yarask, grave danger indeed. If it's what I think it is, we'd best retreat for now. That's nothing to tackle at level 1, I suppose in that case we really missed some other leads or are supposed to do something back in town.
I mean technically it's slow. We could lure it over the bear traps, and or move away+ranged attack for those who have any(AC crap), or even reach attack+move away, oozes tend to be slow...but I'm not looking forward to fighting things that can send me dying with an above-average damage roll and or paralyze for minimum 3 rounds following an engulf for certain acidy death.
| Dvalin Fafnirson |
aye, the cube's a menace that needs to be dealt with. If kids like rodrik come out here, or some teenagers from trunau want some alone time...too dangerous to leave it here.
But not right now. Still hope we get to claim sufficient XP to level around here, then that cube is going down.
| Dvalin Fafnirson |
Aye, Boram and I think Tegnar were in there.
I wanted to check but did not because people near the stairs got nervous when we were missing so long. Figured I can take a look later, too, but then Boram already did.
| Tegnar Giantslayer |
I didn't go to the north room, just the 2 rogues.
I'm a little confused though. I thought we were told before that the west door of the central room could not be opened so we moved on to the north door. If that is not the case, I think we need to see what is behind it before moving on.
| GM Tribute |
Boram follows Dvalin into the rubble strewn cave and takes a quick look around [dice=perception]1d20+7 and then asks Dvalin smiling; "Shall we go open the doors or go back and open the little chest?
I took this as a conditional action. Dvalin did not go in. He stopped and said
"Lets go and take a look at that chest before we advance further. I'm as curious about it's contents as you are!"
| Yarask of House Dace |
For the record, I read the actions the same as the GM. And I suggest we leave things that way for ease of play. We can alway get back there and open the door if we wish to. Also, the boy we found is called Omast? Wasn't that the name of the drunken guard we followed? Is him a lost realtive or something? Maybe Omast was getting drunk because his younger sibling fled?
| Boram the Burglar |
He then proceeds to map out the corridors, counterclockwise from entrance(the way we went down, it seems to run along the outer wall of the house and be limited by that huge boulder. Since they interrupted the meeting, he's extra careful about traps.He will proceed to check the open area and treat any doors found with the hair+saliva treatment.
earlier he said we would check out everything without opening a door, "the open areas" so I assumed he was going all the way in looping around without opening any doors and coming back out.
you described the room with the yarsk found "blocked by a portcullis"
Dvalin's next post was
And, carefully, Dvalin continues on.(As said, steadily but watching out). Gonna assume a Take 10 to Check for Secret Doors/Traps/etc there..
in your next post you had him open the door, my assumption was since he was "continuing on" and he said he would "check the open area" that he would not stop at the threshold and look in and not reclose the door doing the beard-hair treatment.
If he had done that, Boram would have gone in.
In the light of the whole building it is superfluous, because all we have to do is go back and look.
But in our desire for each of us to have lengthy meaningful post we are making assumptions that do not jive with your descriptions and sometimes your descriptions do not jive with our assumptions (twice you had characters go back up stairs) If we need shorter specific posts which ask specific questions before we move on we can do that but without quicker responses it will slow the game down to a crawl.
| GM Tribute |
I have had characters go back upstairs when an obvious solution with little cost was available and I didn't want to take a day and ask, now that you see the bottom of a trap door you saw upstairs do you want to go upstairs. Then take another day rolling saves versus the haunt, then another day asking if you want to pull a lever. Much speed is gained for the loss of some consistency by moving things along.
| Boram the Burglar |
I totally understand that, and agree, that's why I was trying to post two or three actions at a time. Some times it just causes confusion. I am only trying to explain how I came to the conclusion I did, so we can communicate better. I will try and be clearer when I post, if I am using "if-then" actions I will try and spell it out. Thanks for the explanation, it helps me understand better what you are looking for in descriptions.
| GM Tribute |
| Dvalin Fafnirson |
I think Dolgrym should comb the area for tracks :)
Also, if that boy is a relative of the drunkard guard, then if said guard knew his boy was hanging out with orcs he'd have a good reason to get drunk and blaming himself for Rodriks death...just food for thought...
| Ogden Greyhammer |
OK so due to some issues with the way I planned to use aid another in combat, Tribute let me rework some of Ogden's details. He is now a super awesome healing machine (channel 1d6 8/day, and can cast the normal 3 cure spells, and has restoration to remove status effects 6/day. Later on channeling will remove effects also).
just FYI, should help our party endurance. Still focusing on face type skills, leaderish stuff, and being 'helpful', but some things changed.
| Dvalin Fafnirson |
Really liked Ce'Nedra in the Belgariad. Been quite a while since I read it though...so not sure if I would feel the same today.
Not much else I read from Eddings, though, after I read a cocky interview of him regarding how he wrote Belgariad by Cookbook and was totally conceited about "trapping" the reader in it making sure you'd continue through the whole series.
| Dvalin Fafnirson |
Do that, Boram.
As said, Dvalin is currently in no condition to proceed, considering how naive and trustworthy his companions seem to be.(and honestly, failing a Sense Motive Hunch check should not automatically make one believe everything contradicting logic is completely normal...imagine you come upon a room, with a knocked-out person on the floor and a masked person with a sap next to them "Hi" - Sense Motive failed, "oh, this must be a roleplaying couple trying to spice up their marriage, no way this could be a burglar robbing the place"...)
| Ogden Greyhammer |
Yeah, I find it very unbelieveable that he was left with all that cash. Either it's a trick, or some very good or very bad writing on the AP.
I love the belgariad, as well as the elenium, and his standalone redemption of althalus was also great in my opinion. I try never to read authors' opinions outside of writing. It's like a musician, hearing their opinions usually makes me like their music less, so I ignore them and listen to the music only lol.
Moorcock, that Martin GOT guy, Stephen King, have all said some really ludicrous junk. And the Elric Saga is phenomenal.
| Dvalin Fafnirson |
Yeah, totally agree. George RR Martin it was the
I absolutely try and avoid authors statements or opinions, because except Terry Pratchett(RIP) none i stumbled upon ever improved my enjoyment of their works.
As for the boy: Yes, my thoughts exactly, also don't forget he also tried to run away from us which is why I hit him in the first place. If he knows its dangerous there, wouldn't he stick with the people who saved him?
On that note, I think Boram is right. He did not want us to enter that place, so we should definitely take a look. You guys should, that is. Dvalin may be grumpy, but he'll not raise his hand against a companion unless that companion strikes first. But when totally ignored when just worried about our collective safety, he's pushed too far right now and needs some alone time away from everybody(while Yarask claimed the boy and marched off, nobody else interfered or tried to stop him either).
If that "boy" is a shape-shifted Orc and Yarask gets a knife between his shoulders, don't blame me. *jazz hands*
So IC, just gonna be brooding over this a while, and definitely not forgetting it.
| Dvalin Fafnirson |
Na, afraid I'll fail a Sense Motive against the Jelly Cube and end up thinking it's just lonely and wants a hug.(both technically correct....the best kind of correct)
I'll stay far away from that thing!
Sorry, couldn't resist
| Ogden Greyhammer |
lol. I tried to stop Yarask long enough for some simple questions also, by the way. He apparently stopped long enough for me to heal the boy then left :P
Also Boram and Dvalin should be topped off with the 4hp healing, as well as anyone else with damage left.
| Dvalin Fafnirson |
who is going back? Most people want to at least look at that one room before heading back. Boram checks the room, Ogden checks the room, Dolgrym checks the room, Tegnar checks the room. I pout about a round of movement away from them.
Yarask is marching back to town, and choose to trust the stranger over his clanmates.
So it's only Augier undecided, then, or heading back with him.
I couldn't even go with him RP-wise. He went and marched off in order to prevent us from questioning the boy, I doubt I could tag along with him without the situation escalating. I'd expect the City Watch will take care of him.