No worries. Olivius can complain at you later. ;)
Uh, GM, I couldn't help peeking behind the screen - did Pavanna really miss Orange Dashed Goblin with a 23? I can't take Pavanna's turn at the moment, because I'm about to head back to work, but I thought that might need raising. :-S
So I'm in a bit of a slump here. No melee ability, too feat-starved for archery, not enough spells to make a difference, and performance can be maintained as a free action. I'm not sure where I want to take Spoony, but right now I feel like he's more of a RP character than anything else. What should I be doing with my turns, guys? Should I keep scratching with a rapier for 1d6 flat each round? Or should I try finding something else to do?
I would try finding something that focuses you on magic that can deal damage or debuff. I can definitely see you as a debuff sort.
By the way, if someone has a free moment or two, I'm needing a sounding board for another character for a different game.
I have minutes.
And spoony is performing! I missed that! Add 1 to that damage, GM!
Gah! I'm messing up left and right it appears.
I'll post and get this mess sorted out, thanks for catching my flubs.
I wouldn't focus on trying to deal any melee damage, it appears that this party has that covered in spades. Like Thirzin said, a debuffer would be pretty nice niche if you were interested in that. Are you planning to stick with additional levels in Bard?
Salsa - I need a ruling on the shawl that I have, I have a feeling it will be called into play shortly. Do you concur with this post that the HP store would prevent me from going down?
I could see Spoony becoming our debuffer, and that's a great role.
I'll be going bard all the way, since it just fits the character. Spoony's a musician to the core, and I might even be spending my feats on masterpieces as he increases in level, since that's not something anyone else in the party can do (except Pavanna, but I don't think Danyel is planning on taking her that direction).
Debuffing would be a good niche, but the bard spell list is more tailored to buffs than debuffs, what with spells like heroism and haste. And I don't get enough spell slots to keep making a difference in combat.
I've essentially wasted a feat on weapon finesse, since that +1 is doing f!$!-all.
Which brings me back to my original question - what should I be doing with my turns?
Yes, and the glow causes the goblin in front you to wish he'd worn his brown pants today.
Set up flanking. Once there's money saved, get an agile enchantment to your weapon. Then it works great! Honestly, you are great. Everyone has their good spots. Thirzin isn't good at skills. He's good at thumping.
Thirzin, my dex modifier is a whopping +1. My only score with a modifier above that is Charisma with a +3. I don't think an agile weapon would be worth the cost - it would literally be better spent on any other party member. >.>
Too bad there's not a charisma version of one.
That would be cool. Maybe I could take levels in the Dashing Swordsman prestige class. :P
Find the rules for it and I'll allow it.
Horatio is cool
Prerequisite: you must be named Horatio, bard level 1
Benefit: when fight beside a female, and that female like you, you may use your combined stat modifiers of all 6 stats for attack and damage when using a fencing weapon.
Normal: there is nothing normal about Horatio
Dashing Swordsman! *swoon*
The rules I found are homebrew, but not bad. I'm not really skilled in the class design department, so I'll let others confirm that this is viable.
** spoiler omitted **
LoL. From underpowered to Death Machine in one feat!
On Horario's power level: my tabletop bard has nullified several encounters with finalies. Don't dismiss their effectiveness. :)
** spoiler omitted **LoL. From underpowered to Death Machine in one feat!
On Horario's power level: my tabletop bard has nullified several encounters with finalies. Don't dismiss their effectiveness. :)
Especially like the Normal heading. :D
The only issue is what if he gets asked who he likes more? ^_^
... okay, as awesome as that is, I can't see it working for Spoony. Too many feat prereqs. But hey... how do you think it would work for a certain red-haired swashbuckler? >:D
Noro, that feat actually made me snort coffee from my nose. I love it! I particularly loved "There is nothing normal about Horatio". Bravo. *golf clap*
Olives: ... finalies? I think I'm too sugar-starved right now, as I'm drawing a blank. >.>
Salsa: that's simple. You see, the answer is HEY LOOK AN OWLBEAR *jumps out the window while everyone's distracted*
Finales are optional things to add to a bardic performance. They activate when you end the performance voluntarily if I'm recalling it right.
And as for the spunky, unconscious red-haired swashbuckler, I think you may want to see if the conscious half of the party can pull off a victory first. :)
I need to do a little prep work for the next part and the exploring of the rest of the glassworks. I'll try to have that done tonight, but no guarantees.
This last combat made me realize that we have three people that favor mobility and melee range, so my previous plan, being an immovable brick wall for the party to hide behind, probably isn't going to work out. So, I got to thinking on future paths for Olivius. He will definately be switching classes after 3rd.
I was looking at Cavalier (or Samauri), but never felt that mounted was Olivius' style. He's more boots on the ground than that. One archetype that completely traded out mount was the Dune Drifter (as the PFSRD calls it). But that basically turns Olvius into a cowboy. That's not necessarily a bad thing, and the Spellscar origin of the archetype fits well with Olivius's complete inability to use spellcasting (via intentional RP).
But I'm dangerously close to rambling now.
The question: what do youall think of Cavalier for Olivius after lvl 3 (with or without archetypes)?
Salsasalsasalsa- what do you think of that archetype given Olivius's backstory and such. Also, I can't remember if you banned guns in this game or not.
I honestly can't see Olivius mounted, either. If you're looking for other archetypes, Standard Bearer also switches out the mount. I checked the original recruitment thread and Salsa said no to gunslingers, gun archetypes, and firearms altogether. Whether he's changed his mind since is a different matter.
He probably hasn't. Olivius isn't really a cowboy anyway. Does banner conflict with your performance?
If I did to that route, I'd have to switch classes again pretty soon.
Salsa: new question.
How do you feel about ACG classes?
No guns.
I'm cool with ACG classes.
I'm also okay with using the class retraining rules in Ultimate campaign, and those allow you to switch archetypes if I remember correctly. Also, don't forget that there's a lot of loot form the goblin raid that you haven't sold. I think you guys said you were keeping the potions, though.
On another note, I've gotten the itch to run Jade Regent, and I'm keeping the recruitment pool to anyone who's in one of my games. I'm looking for four more players. This isn't going to be in the same "continuity" as this game, mainly because Lou and Noro aren't quiet as beastly as they are now. I'll be posting a link to the recruitment thread in a little bit.
Tomorrow, with any luck, I should be able to move this game forward. I was at a Bible study tonight, and that will probably be taking up my Wednesday nights for the foreseeable future. Just a heads up.
A 1st level bard can use his performance to inspire courage in his allies (including himself), bolstering them against fear and improving their combat abilities. To be affected, an ally must be able to perceive the bard’s performance. An affected ally receives a +1 morale bonus on saving throws against charm and fear effects and a +1 competence bonus on attack and weapon damage rolls. At 5th level, and every six bard levels thereafter, this bonus increases by +1, to a maximum of +4 at 17th level. Inspire courage is a mind-affecting ability. inspire courage can use audible or visual components. The bard must choose which component to use when starting his performance.
At 5th level, a cavalier's banner becomes a symbol of inspiration to his allies and companions. As long as the cavalier's banner is clearly visible, all allies within 60 feet receive a +2 morale bonus on saving throws against fear and a +1 morale bonus on attack rolls made as part of a charge. At 10th level, and every five levels thereafter, these bonuses increase by +1. The banner must be at least Small or larger and must be carried or displayed by the cavalier or his mount to function.
TL;DR - Bonuses on saves don't stack; bonuses on attack rolls do. The banner gives a higher bonus on saves against fear than inspire does, but inspire gives a bonus on saves against charm, which banner doesn't. So if a 1st-level bard is inspiring and a 1st-level standard bearer has the banner up, the total bonuses are: +2 on saves against fear, +1 on saves against charm, +1 on attack rolls (with another +2 as part of a charge) and +1 on damage rolls.
Also, I don't know where you're getting the idea that "dune drifer" trades out the mount - unless there's more than one archetype.
EDIT: Dammit, and standard bearer gets a mount at level 5. Urgh. Complicaaaaaaaaaated.
Dashing Champion gets rid of it altogether, but with your charisma? Don't even try it. Huntmaster lets you have a pack of dogs, which could be fun, but as it is we're a huge party who'll have trouble fitting into tight spaces. Then there's musketeer, but no guns, so that's off the table.
So to give you all a heads up, I had a nasty flare up of both my asthma and fibro that led to an extended asthma attack (still not breathing right; hurts to breath). I'll be calling my doctor in the morning, and then figuring out who to see from there. So if I go quiet, folks know why.
That's not good to hear, mate. Hope everything goes well for you. :-(
Status update of my own: talked to Dad again, and he’s basically told me (and my brother) that we shouldn’t go to the trouble of flying over to visit Charlie during his final convalescence. It’s one less relative we’ll have, and we remember the man fondly, and this really frickin’ sucks all around.
But by the same token, we only met him a couple of times, each of them being for an evening or two more than two decades ago, and as drugged-up as he apparently is these days, he’s unlikely to even register our presence, much less recognise us. We’d be spending a small fortune and majorly disrupting our lives to get over there, and all we’d achieve by going would be ruining our old, pleasant memories of the man as a lively, cheerful, infectiously funny larrikin by witnessing the wreckage the disease has left of him. >:(
Still, it does put something of a pall over things right now. I can’t say I’ve regained the right frame of mind to RP just yet... maybe in another day or two. Sorry to hold things up. :-S
In that spirit, best of luck with your ailments, ShadowyFox — here’s hoping things clear up for you.
@ShadowyFox: Seconding Trace's sentiments. Get well soon man, Thirzin still has gobs to smash!
@Trace: My Papa James died from cancer back in 2006, and the few days before he died, he wasn't aware of anything. It's tough to lose someone you love like that, and my prayers go out to you and yours. Take as much time as you need. Noro still needs to interrogate Mr. Numbskull. :)
Wow. That's rough beyond my experience. My sympathies though. I can only imagine...
@ShadowyFox I hope you feel better soon!
@Trace Wow. What a horrible spot to be in. My thoughts are with you, man.
So...good news is that I'm not dead. Bad news is the asthma attack had me really f*++ed up. He told me that getting caught in the rain caused me to shiver, triggered my heightened pain (from fibro), and the alternating between the cold, damp air & hot, dry air put me into a horribly dilated state (with my lung).
He said it was obvious I wasn't getting enough air and that's why my pain wasn't going away and why I wasn't responding to my usual steroids (like my rescue inhaler). He injected me with a pain reliever, did a breathing treatment, a flu shot, and some prednisone. He also told me I wasn't allowed to drive for a couple days and he didn't want me into work until Thursday.
I'm gonna try to post and get caught up.
Dang. I can't say I know what Asthma or fibro is like, but it doesn't sound like fun.
I am glad to hear you are not gone. still I know a little about how you feel, I have very mild Asbestosis and get winded easily.
Man. I feel like you should get an award of some kind. That sounds crazy. Glad you made it through.
Ok soooo, I was watching Black lagoon (again) and I decided to try and match our characters to characters in the show.
so here is the list of characters I picked out:
if you have not seen the show I'll link some clips as well:
Who's who?
what do you mean? you pick who is who:
I think Noro is like Revy
i picture Olivius as Mr Chang.
Horatio as Rock
Asuriel is Eda
not sure on the rest.
the character bio's are all linked.
Ahh, ok. I thought you pictured one specifically for each of us. *starts perusing*
Noro now has a nickname with the Sczarni. Three guess as to what it is. :D
if you say chinglish I'll punch ya...
Personally, I think ‘mission-mode’ Pavanna is like a pre-scars Balalaika (so, back when she was mostly nice/human, and before she became utterly ruthless/terrifying).
Out-of-combat, I’d have to say she’s somewhere between Eda and ‘Greenback’ Janet Bhai. :D (I haven’t had a chance to see the third season yet, so I can’t honestly compare her to Fabiola — though there are some nice parallels in the clip of “Fabiola being awesome” linked up-thread.)
I can totally picture me as Mr. Chang. :)
I have no idea what you're taking about. Horatio is nothing like Rock. >.> <.< *flubs bluff check*
Which one is the giant nerd? Benny?
I guess Saroune is Benny.
So I just got back from coffee with an artist my fella knows regarding a late birthday present, and let's just say that come December, you should all have a very clear idea of what Spoony looks like.
(eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee)