Wrath of Righteous (Inactive)

Game Master Spazmodeus

I think that Alikia would have been the only one to get a tier; since she was still tier 3 while everyone else had done their personal quests. (Quinn's was the first one we did as a group)

I'm just going by the cheating look at the front of 'Demon's Heresy' that I stole. ;)

Alikia can craft magic arms and armor: Did Hyram or Aladir want their gear upgraded? Also have we separated loot since Aerianna joined the game?

I would love to have my Ghost Plate armor upgraded!

Okie dokie: Looks like you currently have a +4 total enchantment on the armor. Unfortunately I cannot add anything to it until I gain 4 more levels (I am limited to 3 x enhancement bonus)... But I'm more than happy to add to it in the future!

I’ll be on my computer later to answer your PM and get a post up.

It looks like I have a regular, wooden shield. Maybe I could pick up a steel shield and you can enhance that?

Alikia, reading the rules for creating magic armor, to create the armor your level has to be higher than either 3x the armor's enhancement bonus (which for Hyram is currently +1, I think?) or the special ability's CL requirement (which for the ghost touch ability is 15). While I would allow the bettering of the enhancement bonus, it is of course up to GrumpelStiltzkin whether he'll permit improving the enhancement bonus to not require the higher CL.

Not to mention that it takes one full day of work for each 1,000 GP of value the item has. At the level we're at now, you're talkin' at least eight or ten days for the more significant stuff. A +2 enhancement bonus would cost 8,000 GP, which means eight days of work to create it.

Everyone should be 12th level/5th tier to start. Aerianna I will get on my computer after work and get into your questions. I just need to stay awake when I get home. Ugghggggggg

So we need to level up AND tier up, correct?

Correct

Is everyone still here?

I'm still here. I was just waiting for everyone else to finish leveling and magic iteming. As I am already done coming into the game as such.

Inquisitor 12/Guardian 5

HP +39

BAB +1
Fort +1
Ref +1
Will +1

Greater Bane At 12th level, whenever an inquisitor uses her bane ability, the amount of bonus damage dealt by the weapon against creatures of the selected type increases to 4d6.

Sieze The MomentWhen an ally who also has this feat confirms a critical hit against an opponent that you also threaten, you can make an attack of opportunity against that opponent. (Need Imprved Crit)[/b]

Spell

Greater Invisivility

The creature or object touched becomes invisible. If the recipient is a creature carrying gear, that vanishes, too. If you cast the spell on someone else, neither you nor your allies can see the subject, unless you can normally see invisible things or you employ magic to do so.

Items dropped or put down by an invisible creature become visible; items picked up disappear if tucked into the clothing or pouches worn by the creature. Light, however, never becomes invisible, although a source of light can become so (thus, the effect is that of a light with no visible source). Any part of an item that the subject carries but that extends more than 10 feet from it becomes visible.

Of course, the subject is not magically silenced, and certain other conditions can render the recipient detectable (such as swimming in water or stepping in a puddle). If a check is required, a stationary invisible creature has a +40 bonus on its Stealth checks. This bonus is reduced to +20 if the creature is moving. The spell ends if the subject attacks any creature. For purposes of this spell, an attack includes any spell targeting a foe or whose area or effect includes a foe. Exactly who is a foe depends on the invisible character’s perceptions. Actions directed at unattended objects do not break the spell. Causing harm indirectly is not an attack. Thus, an invisible being can open doors, talk, eat, climb stairs, summon monsters and have them attack, cut the ropes holding a rope bridge while enemies are on the bridge, remotely trigger traps, open a portcullis to release attack dogs, and so forth. If the subject attacks directly, however, it immediately becomes visible along with all its gear. Spells such as bless that specifically affect allies but not foes are not attacks for this purpose, even when they include foes in their area.

Invisibility can be made permanent (on objects only) with a permanency spell.

Path AbilityKnowledgeable Guardian (Su)
Add double your tier as a bonus on Knowledge checks you attempt to identify monsters, including checks made to learn any special powers and vulnerabilities. As a free action, you can expend one use of mythic power to telepathically communicate the knowledge you obtain from this check to all allies within 100 feet.

HP 306 (12d8)+180 (12*(+8(Ability)+1(FC Bonus HP)+5(Exposed to Awfulness(Guardian)+1(Toughness)) +5 (Iomedea Boon)+25 (Guardian Tier (5))

I'm still waiting on answers to my questions. And Iona is 4th Tier, not 5th -- should she go up a tier as well? (And wow -- +39 hp; !!)

Yup! Can't hit worth a dang, but I can take the punishment!

I know most of you have been together for a while so i’ll be pretty easy on everything. As long as I’m not making up another set of rules entirely then i’m willing to slightly bend some rules if need be. Especially if that means everyone still gets to play their character in a fun way. As long as their are no objections from anyone that is?

Aerianna-
I’m fine with you transfering the stats on armor. If you could just keep track of that in your profile in case I would need to reference that for some odd reason.
I’m also fine with the longsword being upgraded.
Blackrobe of the Archmage-are you asking me rule wise if it can be done or just GM wise is that can be done?

I will leave the distribution of things to the party. Choose wisely though.
Go ahead and do your retraining. Any time needed then we can consider that time past all ready.

Anyone else that wants to upgrade armor can consider the time needed as past as well. So is something would of taken 10 days to updrage then upgrade if you want and we will forget the time needed. Is everyone good with that?

I appreciate everyones patience. Are there any questions I happened to glance over and forget about?

I feel like I need to apologize, too...it's been a long time since I've taken Aladir shopping and there's a lot that I'm considering. I should be done soon, but I wanted to go ahead and post and let everyone know that I'm still around and definitely want to continue.

I am also working on leveling Alikia up; High level wizards are already a bunch of paperwork; add 2 mythic tiers and it is exponential. I am almost done with leveling her up, but her gear is hilariously out of date.

I'm still waiting on answers to my questions. And Iona is 4th Tier, not 5th -- should she go up a tier as well? (And wow -- +39 hp; !!)

Uha, good question. I was told to make a level 12 tier 4. Should I be moving to tier 5 GM?

I am also working on leveling Alikia up; High level wizards are already a bunch of paperwork; add 2 mythic tiers and it is exponential. I am almost done with leveling her up, but her gear is hilariously out of date.

I hear you! rogues are certainly not gonna leave the paper trail that wizards do, but I haven't updated Aladir's gear since we first took back Drezen and it's just taking some time to go through all my options. I mean, dang...lots of stuff to consider.

Iona-yes make it tier 5. I must of messed that up.

Everyone take your time working on characters. I'm not going anywhere and I don't think you are either.

Everyone give me the ok when they are ready to proceed.

Character Level: +1 Rogue (Total Level: 12)

HP: +8 (HP Total: 119)

Ability Point: +1 Dex

Skill Points: +10
+1 Acrobatics
+1 Climb
+1 Diplomacy
+1 Disable Device
+1 Know(Dungeoneering)
+1 Know(Local)
+1 Perception
+1 Sense Motive
+1 Stealth
+1 UMD

Rogue Talent: Trap Spotter (Can't believe I didn't already have this...)

Mythic Tier: +1 Trickster(Total: Trickster 5)

Mythic Feat: Mythic Deadly Aim

Path Ability: Assured Skill

It occurs to me at this point, now that I've been looking at gear options for forever, that I'm not sure how much unspent money we even have between us all. Has anyone yet tallied everything from the treasure list from the Sanctum?

Here is the complete treasure list from the Sanctum, including my general suggestions on what to do with them. Who, specifically, items should go to is something that needs to be decided; of particular interest to us are a Manual of Bodily Health (+2 Con), a sword of the planes (which will act as a +4 longsword in most circumstances going forward), a headband of mental prowess +4 (Int, Wis), a ring of major fire resistance (20 points), and a ring of protection +5.

GM GrumpleStiltzkin, consider the armor bonus / conversion tracked.

The +2 unholy longsword conversion (to holy) or upgrade (to redeemd) is, in part, a question for the group -- if we want to invest in that, or if it can be converted and 'transferred' (and thus still needing the upgrade cost) to Iona's weapon (which would give her a +2 holy demonbane cold iron longsword, and 'leave behind' a +1 longsword -- or just consume it in the upgrade, reducing the conversion cost). Which, again, is something for the group to decide. Me, I'm in favor of at least a combination into the holy bane weapon -- it'd definitely enhance Iona's smacking things around.

Regarding the Black Robe of the Archmage, it's kind of both. They're robes, sure, but they're magical robes, and the conversion forge (purity forge?) might, philosophically, be able to do it. IMO it's definitely a GM call on whether or not it can be done that way. Aerianna certainly doesn't know enough to even guess, though Aravashnial or, especially, Alikia herself are likely to know whether it's possible. If it is, it's a major boon; if it isn't ... well, on the moral side Aerianna would want to see it destroyed, as a powerful tool of evil; on the gamer side, that's 75,000gp we'd be destroying. Aiiiee!! ;)

To be honest, I'm not totally sure what else everyone needs -- the sheet is able to be edited, so by all means everyone chime in with suggestions on where stuff should go. I know that Aerianna needs to get her defenses up ... GM Grump, is it okay to improve the ring of protection +1 aspect of the knight-inheritor's ring? Right now it'd only increase to +2, but I'm focusing on the entire 'Aeri need better defenses' thing. :P :)

Okay, Alikia is all leveled up;

Highlights:
+1 5th level spell
+1 6th level spell

Percept +2
Init +2
Wis +1
BAB +1

Mythic Feat:
Mythic Augment Summoning

Path Abilities:
Mirror Dodge,
Energy Conversion

Ability Increase: Int +2

Okay! I fixed Iona, she is now tier 5!

Channel Smite (mythic) is her feat, Mythic Spellcasting: (Shield other, Pillar of Life, Order's Wrath, Breath of life, Plane Shift) is her path ability, and she got returning added to her shield. I'm going to have her take in again next tier so that it will return to her no matter what plane it is on!

Also something that I was suggest to bring up to you all. Because of the book we're in, Iona won't have the this is really were my mythic power comes from. I'm well aware of what her trait means, so the question is... does Iona know?

What do you mean by "convert" under Yaniel's Armor? Was it one of those corrupted things that we were having to purify? What are we converting it to?

When you are ready let me know.

As far as the other gear goes, I honestly think the only thing that Aladir would really be interested in claiming for himself is the Fortune's Arrow. We didn't really find any magical bows or less magical arrows so a lot of the things that Aladir needs are going to have to be purchased once we have figured out what's getting liquidated and how much petty coin we each have to play with.

I'm ready!

I am good to go; any longer and I'm just dragging my feet.

Ready!

Awesome. I’m headed to bed right now, but I’ll get an update up tomorrow.

I'm still waiting on answers to a few questions.

First, can I upgrade the defensive value of the knight-inheritor's ring from its current +1 to +3? Can we turn the black robe of the archmagi into a white one for Alikia? And can we merge Iona's +1 demon-bane cold iron longsword with the +2 unholy longsword converted to +2 holy longsword, using the 6000gp worth of magical reagents and crafting materials and another 4000gp of goods into a +2 holy demon-bane cold iron longsword? (And is everyone else willing/wanting to do that?)

Regarding the 'convert' note under Yaniel's armor, I meant the transfer of the +3 bonus over to the armor Aerianna's currently wearing, which would leave Yaniel's armor as +1 mithral full plate armor, valued at 11,500gp, which we can then sell / donate (which I've been pegging at 1/3 gp value returned).

It doesn't look like anyone is going to want/need the +3 greataxe, so I suggest we sell that. The sword of the planes is essentially likewise, though I'm recommending a sell/donate (for 1/3 gp) with it. The blessed book is an item which only Alikia has a use for, and since she already has one, I doubt she needs another; we can sell that as well.

For the other significant items, I suggest this distribution:

Manual of Bodily Health +2 (+2 Con): Aladir
Headband of Mental Prowess +4 (Int, Wis; Bluff, Sense Motive): Iona
Ring of Major Fire Resistance (20 pts): Hyram
Ring of Protection +5: Alikia

Alikia could give her ring of protection +2 to Hyram, who (from what I can see) doesn't seem to have one. I suggest also that either Hyram or Iona carry the instant fortress, as being the most likely to be ready or able to establish such a stronghold while the rest of us are getting ready to back into it.

It would be good for Alikia, Hyram, and Iona discuss how to use the word bottle -- it stores one language-dependent spell of up to 3rd level, turning it into basically a splash weapon, which could be useful particularly for a single-target spell.

We also have another bag of holding, type IV this time (1500 lbs / 250 cu ft), which Aerianna can carry if need be. I'm sure we'll find use for it in this next adventure.

Speaking of which, since we're on our way into the Abyss, we might want to all pitch in on some sort of food-producing magic; while Aerianna does wear a ring of sustenance, there's the rest of you too. ;) A sustaining spoon would keep you all in gruel for 5400gp; a cornucopia of plenty for 35,000gp would not only keep us all in good stead, a use of mythic power would give us the equivalent of heroes' feast and restore all our non-mythic abilities to full as per the recuperation ability. Or everyone else could acquire a ring of sustenance for 2500gp. ;) Otherwise, lots of food can go into that bag of holding!!

Given all that, and with a 5-way split understood, everyone but Iona has 42,230gp division coming from loot sale.

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Other than that ...

Level Up / Retraining:
Character Level: +1 Paladin (Total: 12)

Mythic Path:
Smiting Aura >>> Master of Mercy
Tactical Genius >>> Beyond Morality
New: Focus (allies w/in 30' using surge roll twice and use higher result)

Mythic Feat:
Weapon Specialization (Mythic, Longsword)

Feat Retraining:
Worldwound Walker >>> Stage Combatant (no penalty for nonlethal attack w/ longsword)

HP: +17 (10 Paladin + 3 Con + 4 Mythic)

Ability Point: +1 Str (now 20, +5)

Skills: 2 (Paladin) + 2 (Int) + 1 (FCB)
+1 Sense Motive
+1 Diplomacy
+1 Intimidate
+1 Heal
+1 KS: Religion

And presuming we can otherwise pay to upgrade our gear, Aerianna will be much improved.

+1 mithral Gray Maiden plate armor of the pious >>> +3 mithral Gray Maiden plate armor of the pious (via the transfer of virtue from Yaniel's armor)
Radiance, +3 cold iron longsword >>> Radiance, +3 holy cold iron longsword
masterwork composite (+4 Str) longbow >>> +1 adaptive composite longbow (800 gp >> 3400gp)
mithral heavy shield >>> +2 crusading evil-outsider-defiant mithral heavy shield (1020gp >> 17,020 gp)
knight-inheritor's ring (of protection) +1 >>> knight-inheritor's ring (of protection) +3 (3000 gp >> 19,000gp)
belt of physical might +2 (Str, Con) >>> belt of physical perfection (10,000gp >> 16,000gp)

Spent: 40,600gp.

Will raise her AC to 32 base, with circumstantials up to 38.

Aerianna,

Answer to your questions.
Yes you can upgrade the ring from +1 to +3.
Yes you can turn the black robe into a white one. I will allow that.
If everyone is willing and wanting to convert the longsword then I have to problem with it.

As far as money and distribution of gear I will leave that to you and the group.

42,000 GP sounds like a lot but at our level I doubt it will go very far! Of course, I haven't spent any gold in a long time either, so that will probably help. I'll try and get that done and finalized this afternoon once I'm home from work.

If everyone is ready then I will have a post up tomorrow.

Sounds good to me!

This weekend I will heading out to visit family for two weeks and the next few days will be spent wrapping things up. I hope to keep up, but bot me if necessary.

Have fun! ^_^

Sorry everyone. Monday was my wife’s birthday and yesterday she had a rough day. For whatever reason she wanted to watch Joker thinking it would cheer her up. I’ll try and have a good post up today.

Post is up. Map is updated. Just put your token on the visible area.

Need access!!

granted!!!!!

Just seeking opinions here...I've got several options ready for gear purchases, some with more stuff that costs less and others with less stuff that costs more. In general, what do y'all think is the better option?

For example, my most expensive list has just two things taking up all but 1k of my gold...a +1 Holy rapier and Greater Bracers of Archery. Do ya'll think I'd be better off with something like that or spreading it out a little more?

I always advise improving what you have, if you can. While the greater bracers of archery would definitely improve your ability (+2 competence on attack, +1 on damage), it seems to be a very small advance -- although I'll concede that they are a good general-usage item.

Thing is, we're fighting a lot of evil-outsider-types; you could gain +2 to attack and +2d6 damage if you improved your +4 bow to +4 evil-outsider-bane, going from 32k to 50k, or 18k.

Likewise, instead of buying a new, different weapon (the +1 holy rapier) for 18k, improving your current +1 frost rapier (8k) to a +1 holy frost rapier would bring the cost to 32k -- 34k if combined with the masterwork cold iron rapier you also have -- 24k or 26k.

Presuming you have just the 42,000, adding the bane to the bow and the holy to the frost rapier would clock you out straight at 42k. If you do have the extra 2k, get all the benefits of the blade onto the cold iron rapier at a total of 44k - which, considering you're looking at 18k + 25k = 43k anyhow, with 1k left over ... you do have. ;)

And don't forget to apply the +2 CON to yourself, from the Manual of Bodily Health!!

As a general rule I completely agree with you; upgrading is better than purchasing something new.

The main issue with it is the time component. RAW, upgrading both weapons would take 42 days, start to finish. I'm not sure we're gonna have a month-and-a-half of downtime. Even if we said that we farmed it out to two different enchanters, it would still take over a month and that's still a lot of time to wait for the weapon to be upgraded.

I believe the GM liberally applied handwavium. "A fellow happens to have just the sort of thing you want, and is willing to trade your lesser plus X gold for the one he has." ;)

Merry Christmas! And Happy Holidays!