DM B's PbP Game Day 3: Decline of Glory (1-7) (Inactive)

Game Master Beckett

Please, BEFORE ANYTHING ELSE, provide the following info.

1.) Player Name/Nickname
2.) Character Name
3.) PFS ID
4.) Faction
5.) Email Address (in spoilers if needed, this is just for Boons).

So far, I am counting 5 players. Once all 5 have posted this, fell free to post other discussion and out of game stuff here.

B Viggers
Yoshi Maeaso
100387-10
Dark Archives
I'll PM you my email, as email gathering bots are a pain.

1. Azih
2. Hisao
3. 12190 - 3
4. Scarab Sages

1. Gary Wang
2. Mirima Beryamae
3. 152845-3
4. Grand Lodge
5. grtrtle@yahoo.com

1.) Aron Marczylo
2.) Davor Mason
3.) 82068 - 4
4.) Grand Lodge
5.) overfiend_87@msn.com

Just need to add either a masterwork chainmail or masterwork greatsword to Davor and maybe a flask or two then I'll be up to date :)

1.) Javier Villacorta / TFidelFHell
2.) Tuka Luna Marcelau
3.) 128906 - 3
4.) Grand Lodge
5.) TheFidelFromHell@hotmail.com

Beckett, you didn't respond in the recruitment thread, so I'm asking again if it's still cool if I come along with my wizard. Finished that Confirmation.

1.) Achilles
2.) Parumartish
3.) 116049-2
4.) Scarab Sages
5.) staplefordchase@gmail.com

Also, Mirima. I was under the impression one of my spells had to be from my specialty school also, but I can't seem to find that rule now...

edit: Apparently that was a 3.5 rule and isn't in Pathfinder.

Well, that's all six, so Mirima's gonna post a response. I think paizo removed the requirement! I have a pretty old core book. I wonder if it's still in mine. I'll have to check when I get home tonight.

A relevant post

Yeah, apparently they removed it with errata that went unnoticed. Good.

Are we playing up?

I didn't think so. None of us brought someone above level 2. If Sylphiette brought her L4 character and I brought my L3 ranger we probably could make a more reasonable case of playing the L3-4 tier.

I can swap for a level 3 oracle if you want.

Ok. I'm going to load up my Ranger in preparation. I'd like an ok from our GM before I make this swap, but I'll be ready and waiting. Just give the word, Mr. GM.

Ah. Doesn't really make a difference to me. I was just curious.

So, I have just been made aware that all Online PFS play has been made illegal, through a new inadvertent ruling. I plan on continuing on in hopes that this will be fixed, but as it currently stands, as far as I can tell, unless you can hand me a physical copy of your character sheets and all Chronicle Sheets, Online PFS play is now illegal. Even Dropbox is a NoGo. Of all of my current games, I have 1 player out of maybe 30 that I could get a physical Character and all Chronicle Sheets from right now.

Now, I'm not trying to cause a panic, or anything, but at the same time, I think it might be a good idea to get in contact with your local Venture Officers let them be aware of this and hopefully deal with it. I've already Emailed Jesse Davis (online VC). And again, I plan on continuing with my Online games, as this seems like both a hasty decision made without looking at all the sides and also not intended to make Online Play illegal or unofficial.

Chris Mortika made that point before, there are many people who´s handwriting is just a mess. Some of those are also very special at keeping documents or organizing them, but still want to play more complicated characters with lots of attacks/buffs/stuff.

You make the investment to buy the books and herolab, be welcome to use both. Just stick by the rules, meaning own what you play and have the legal resources at hand if necessary.

As written in the guide if you play at a table, please bring printed chronicles. It´s fair to bring copies of the chroncles and not carry around the originals i guess.

I don't understand the point of requiring physical chronicles, especially if copies are acceptable. Apparently it is, or will be, the rule, but what's the advantage?

If you have a boon on a sheet that is required to be crossed off when used, it's hard for the GM to do so if it's on your tablet.

Physical sheets are required. As a GM, I'm not comfortable with someone handing me their tablet. What if I drop it by accident and it breaks? Am I going to be required to replace it or pay for repairs? We don't want GMs to come under that sort of pressure.

Physical sheets are required.

To clarify: Chronicle sheets, character sheets, or both?

Both

LINK HERE

The thread itself was locked the same day that this ruling was made, and as far as I can tell, no mention of how terrible this would be for Online play has been made. I could be wrong, and I'd love to see a link showing how this is false. :(

This is going to get messy, as of recently I have been writing my cronicle sheets in english, but were i play we do it in spanish.... you know what I mean.
It NOT a problem for me but... this is going to make things dificult.

Send my a pm with your mail I will send you everything.

Don't worry about it right now. Like I said, I'm going to continue as is for now in hopes that this switches back.

If not, I'll vouch for you that you flew to my house just to show me your chronicles and character sheet.

:P

I think that is more about having paper copies for face to face play.

the issue about breaking someone's tablet by dropping it on the internet hopefully won't crop up.

Now a virus embedded in the PDF....

yeah I agree with Yoshi. I have all my chronical sheets, but I'd need to scan them in.

I don't think many DMs are going to want a look at them unless I have something like a unique intelligent item and they want to know what chronical it came from, how much gp it was, how my gp I had at the time and so on.

Jesse said he's going to talk to Mike about changing it to exclude Online play. So, not freaking out, just wanted to make others aware, as it's hidden in a locked thread I just happened to see.

:)

No freaking out here. There is a market for the products built up by the online game play (I know how much I've spent since playing online - being near Christmas sure helped Paizo there, and I can't be the only one). If Paizo decides to seriously hamper this marketing avenue, they've got problems. I fully expect they'll find a way to allow online play to continue and thrive.

I'm not worried. The purpose of all this is to make it easier to find and run fun games and it worked as we're in a fun game :).

I'm just sad because it's a weak argument. I don't stop being responsible for what happens to my things because I hand them to someone else unless that person does something unreasonable with whatever it is. If my tablet breaks and most reasonable people can agree that it was an accident, then it could just as easily have happened while it was in my possession. So I would have no reasonable argument to support monetary compensation. If you break my tablet because you decided it would make a nice coaster or football, on the other hand, that's completely different.

Honestly isn't everything far easier to find on the online psrd than going through books individually anyway?

Yes, I really don't see any wisdom in the ruling. I'd say it should have ended with a little suggestion that if the DM is not comfortable with electronics at the table or handling other people's things for digital character/chronicle sheets, than they have the right to disallow anyone to play, or something.

Anyway, it's been officially fixed to exclude Online Play, so no worries.

I'll be attempting to update the game later tonight. :)

I'll update today, and I'm going to try to be very active today in hopes of finishing up. This and one other game are the only ones likely to finish or get close for Game Day. So I have a question for everyone. There are kin of three options here.

I'm going to finish the game no matter what, but would everyone rather trying to push it as fast as possible, and even if we don't completely finish it, I could report it for the Game Day, and then conclude the wrap up afterwards, or we could not worry about the Game Day at all, and just play until done.

There are essentially 2 combats left, with the possibility, and generally combats are what slows the game down the most (not a bad thing, it just requires for the most part everyone's participation). And I'm not clear if the Game Day ends at the start of or at the end of Feb 01.

Well, if you bunch them together in a 3x2 row formation, and make sure the two wizards can go first, we may be able to finish a combat in one round...

I'm with Mirima here.

BOOM

Good with any approach.

I am good with the decision of the group. 2 a.m. here but can post in RT almost till dawn.
Checking the Character i didn´t have in it the wand of cure light wounds brougth with pp, corrected.

Thanks for that. I retconned, since grease would've just been stupid in that environment. Party (in RL) over now, and I'll be able to keep close tabs for the night. Go team go!

5 a.m. no moment on sight, sleeeeepy... sorry, I am going to bed.

Same here.

I do still kind of need to hear an answer from people. Not really clear what either Mirima's or Davor's was.

Happy to push it if folk want, but not expecting a boon out of this (my luck with boons this GD is totally non existant).

Sorry, I thought we were going ahead with the pushing forward as fact as we can. I'm happy to enjoy this experience with the group (admit it, we're fun together, even when we are diseased or knee-deep in the mud).

There are plenty of boons to be had in the career. I'm not overly concerned about pre-reporting and trying for one here. Let's just enjoy this game quickly, hope we come out alive (I hear ghouls do bad things to you if you let them), and enjoy a long career together :).

I guess that means Mirima votes we keep a brisk pace, but enjoy the game, and not worry about the boon.

Well put. Yoshi votes for that too.

exactly :D

Also I agree it is a fun group and Mirima his entertaining in her way to piss off Davor in the last adventure, lol.

Davor! What did I just say about the ghouls?! Some people never listen. Hrmph. :)

I try to be pretty allowing with illusions. Ill take a look at this one specifically, but I generally interpret Illusions so that you dont even get a save unless you physically interact with it, but its also case by case, where circumstances may give a bonus or penulty. Let me look into it a bit, though.

-Posted with Wayfinder

Right, but mindless undead are immune to mind-affecting spells, so I'm not sure if an illusory stone wall would hinder the zombies in any way.

So, lets say you create a Silent Image of a warrior beside the zombie. I'll roll a random target roll including the illusion, as there is no reason the zombie wouldnt attack it, unless its really the only reasonable target, or someone else is closer. The zombie wouldnt get a Save at all until after it successfully hit the Illusion (AC 10+ size). If it fails the save, it will probably continue to attack it. Otherwise it might ignor it, or if circumstances changed, it would act appropriate to its nature.

Now, against a more intelligent creature, lets say you forgot to mention you want the Silent Image to (and this is more example than literal), forgot that you are in water and didnt have the illusion include splashing or ripples, that might give the enemies a clue, or even an auto pass. Something like an Earth Elemental with extra senses, for example would know its not material, or not corporeal, but doesnt know its an illusion, just that something is up.

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Ah, if it doesnt say its a Mind-Affecting Effect, its not. :)

-Posted with Wayfinder

Alright then. The rest is just up to perceived zombie behavior. :)

Ok, we are close enough that I'm going to go ahead and report it. Now, that being said, I have no issue with continuing on and finishing up, BUT, (and honestly this is Season 0 so not really a huge threat anyway), that does mean that anything after this point can not alter the Chronicle Sheet, so it's just for fun and a sense of closure, and I'm not going to lie, I need a break.

:)

Boon Roll-Off

Davor: 1d20 ⇒ 17
Hisao: 1d20 ⇒ 12
Mirima: 1d20 ⇒ 15
Parumartish: 1d20 ⇒ 6
Tuca: 1d20 ⇒ 7
Yoshi: 1d20 ⇒ 14
DM: 1d20 ⇒ 16

Told you my luck was rotten. Yoshi must have caught the non-boon disease from his PFS cousins... and it looks like it moved on to everyone else too.

Okedoke. Please note I would like to do a spell swap with Mr. Parumartish here, if he's amenable to it. I'll edit this with a list and cost shortly.

With Parumartish's blessing, I would like to copy the following spells:

Level 0:
resistance
spark
haunted fey aspect[UCo]

Level 1:
protection from evil
mount
obscuring mist
comprehend languages
color spray
enlarge person

for 75gp.

In exchange, I would be glad to share my spells with Parumartish as well.

O.o Boon, wonder what I get!

Sadly, only a 20 or a 1 gets a boon, so no one won. However, Im not particularly interested in what was offered, so I wouldnt worry.

Sadly, only a 20 or a 1 gets a boon, so no one won. However, Im not particularly interested in what was offered, so I wouldnt worry.

Just been reading up on boons and it said players don't get them anymore, just the GMs.

I'm interested in getting certain race boons, however one of the races I'm after, Hobgoblin, there doesn't appear to be a boon for.

Shame as I have a really interesting idea for a Hobgoblin who is a ex-soldier of Molthune who fled due to being framed for the murder of his wife.

If you've seen Farscape, I basically got the idea of Dargo from the series.

In GD3 GMs get a single sylph boon.
Players (and GMs) get a 10% chance per character/session to pick from
improved animal companion
racial weapons training and
special ammunition.

The player boons are situational at best. But that is okay, if they were too good there would be complaints from folk who didn't get them or more cheating around the boon rolls.