I'm in the middle of the Pacific
I'm in the middle of the middle.
California. I work nights.
Alabama. I work days.
I wonder what our plan will end up being. I can't imagine us not drawing attention to ourselves if our plan is "masquerade as a powerful enough cleric to summon a high level celestial."
Illia, distracted with her hands and the koan, was utterly taken by surprise when the slightly shorter Delyliath reached to her hair.
How tall is Illia? O_o
I guess more than 5'10" (178 cm)I did not imagine Ilia as a particularly tall girl.
P.S. Italy here
Atlanta, GA. I work days though a computer and often from home.
I imagine Illia as very tall for a gal, maybe 6' 1" if I had to put a number. Despite a shrinking violet personality, she has a very powerful, Valkyrie-esque build cloaked in serious* armor. In that she still seems to fit with a goddess of Rainbows, but also looks like she can totally heft your dead body over her shoulder one handed as she rides you back to Valhalla.
In other words, despite her physical power, she manages to appear small by being a very wilting, naive personality.
*Except from the back.
However, I could make her small and go for the surprising thing being how much power is packed into her smaller frame. You've got about 15 minutes to weigh in. :P
California here. I work constantly, but often find myself with large gaps of free time when my experiments fail.
And according to the bestiary, Erinyes are about the size of normal human women, perhaps slightly taller and lighter.
You're right, the entry says she should be just under 6' tall. Let's put her at 5'11" so that when it was said Illia was "slightly" taller, it was VERY slightly. :P
Oh, and Iranaset: If you have the spare gold, it might make sense to buy a ring of sustenance. I just realized there's only one character in the party who has to eat or sleep, and with that out of the way, you guys could travel pretty fast and generally not have to worry about who stands watch when.
Also: most intelligent items refused to share an owner with other intelligent items.
Alternatively, you could just have Illia carry you whenever you need to sleep. :P
I don't even need to "travel"
I just need to vaguely know where I'm supposed to appear and greater teleport away. :P
Malefeasance also could carry you.
Haha, right on Delyliath! Greater Teleport all the time! Getting into the city isn't a problem, it's just passing unnoticed once inside. :P
This reminds me of an episode of Batman: TAS where Harley teamed up with Livewire and Poison Ivy but kept getting overshadowed by the superpowered supervillains. I'll check HL when I get home, if I have the gold to spare I'll get one... Are we still supposed to hold on to about 5k gold?
And then later Poison Ivy gives Harley superpowers. So.. Huh.
Mal, I worry about you being out "cleric"
On your sheet it looks like you don't have any Bluff score. The only way to make that work would be for you to pretend to have undertaken a Vow of Silence and have someone else speak for you.
How's this for an idea of our group disguise-
Mal is a Sacred Servant Paladin of Saranrae (they get a celestial companion instead of a mount). He has taken a vow of silence as part of his oaths. (Anaxian or Shimsil can telepathically relay information from Mal if need be).
Illia is Mal's companion. She acts as a voice for him.
Inraset is a dragon blooded sorceress and Anaxian is her familiar.
Delylaith can pose as retry much anyone she wants, though a Bard chronicling the heroics of Sir Mal would be a good choice. (our as-yet-unspoken ninja can probably do the same)
Shimsil is a sword. (think you can handle that much of a change?)
We can start the mission by "saving" someone important and establishing credibility.
Thoughts?
I got telepathy, can talk with Mal directly. And doesn't he have it too?
Don't forget, you have an ACTUAL celestial with you...
I didn't realize so many of us were telepathic.
We have an actual celestial? Have they spoken up in game yet?
Edit: Nevermind. I see that you're still woking on an alias. That just means extra credibility. We could even have two Sacred Sevant paladins and their celestial friends. That would be pretty feasible given our group makeup.
Mal, I worry about you being out "cleric"
On your sheet it looks like you don't have any Bluff score. The only way to make that work would be for you to pretend to have undertaken a Vow of Silence and have someone else speak for you.
How's this for an idea of our group disguise-
Mal is a Sacred Servant Paladin of Saranrae (they get a celestial companion instead of a mount). He has taken a vow of silence as part of his oaths. (Anaxian or Shimsil can telepathically relay information from Mal if need be).
Illia is Mal's companion. She acts as a voice for him.
Inraset is a dragon blooded sorceress and Anaxian is her familiar.
Delylaith can pose as retry much anyone she wants, though a Bard chronicling the heroics of Sir Mal would be a good choice. (our as-yet-unspoken ninja can probably do the same)
Shimsil is a sword. (think you can handle that much of a change?)
We can start the mission by "saving" someone important and establishing credibility.
Thoughts?
Seems reasonable. My eidolon has a hat of disguise but not a lot of bluff skill, but how hard is it to pass for a servant? I don't have any long-term invisibility spells, but ghosts are generally pretty good at keeping out of sight if needful.
Who else is missing? (Mouseketeer roll call, sound off....)
Your eidolon also doesn't actually have to be around most of the time. As a ghost, you're intangible and can hide underground so you don't really need a disguise, and with Summon Eidolon you're only ever six seconds from having a physical presence should you need one.
Clerics can cast Summon Monster, so it even makes sense. :)
FYI: I also have two imps with me. They both have telepathy and alternate forms.
True, I have no bluff. Vow of Silence is probably a good idea.
Your eidolon also doesn't actually have to be around most of the time.
How would you react if I suggested that your hands didn't actually have to be around most of the time?
How would you react if I suggested that your hands didn't actually have to be around most of the time?
Ooh, catty.
Anyways it seems like a good plan to me. I'm down for my role in it.
How would you react if I suggested that your hands didn't actually have to be around most of the time?Your eidolon also doesn't actually have to be around most of the time.
Don't ghosts have telekinesis? I didn't realize your eidolon was your only way of interacting with the physical world.
We need to get you some Ghost Touch gauntlets or something.
What good does Ghost Touch gauntlets do if you have 0 strength?
Heh. Good point. :)
I wonder.. is Shimsil technically one of those intelligent swords that can pretty much take control of their owners?
If that is so and we want to get with the "save the city from the gnolls" plan we could gift the Gnoll chief with Shimsil.
Also .. I believe Mal can pose as anything. The fact that some classes gets awarded with a celestial is kinda metagaming.
And is not like pretending to have taken a vow does not require any bluff.
The way to go is to not give people with low bluff a prominent role.
Posing as the leader is kind of a bad choice.
I would rather go for the Azata, whatever is his bluff score is (which isn't half bad anyway) he is also the one who has less to hide and thus the most capable of representing a group that should strive to not attract suspicion.
Also .. I feel I'm way overshadowing the group with my advices and suggestions...
I believe as Delyliath she couldn't help herself, she feel she is (finally) a natural leader. But of course, feel free to challenge her on her choices, even for just a petty power struggle.
Lead away. I'll speak up when needed.
I see no problem with Delyliath trying to assume a leadership role when the chance presents itself. That's a symptom of most creatures of the abyss isn't it? When the chance arises to assert themselves above their station, most demons jump at it.
Besides, I think the group more or less agree that whatever we do we should not overreach with our cover.
I agree with Delyliath that some of the suggestions Anaxian pointed out are a bit meta, particularly the bits breaking down archetypes or bloodlines for us, but I think his general idea is pretty good and I'm still down with it.
Since I've actually just gone over Shimsil's mechanics:
The sword's got at-will Mage Hand, to move small objects. He's also got a massive Ego score, which means it's a whopping DC 34 will save for an enemy who wields him to avoid being controlled by his motivations (the effect, as far as I gather, is never written out too specifically, but generally similar to a Charm Person effect).
As for knowing about the existence of a prestige class: According to some rules from 3.5 that mostly got overlooked as fluff, it's generally a DC 15 knowledge check to know that a prestige class exists (here, knowledge religion to know "this particular order of priests exists, and this is their sigil") and a DC 20 knowledge check to get a summary of the prestige class features (here, "that particular order of priests often travels with minor celestials."
I'm down for whatever. As long as Illia doesn't get dimensional anchored, I'm pretty sure she'll survive the consequences of failure. :P
For anyone with a decent Knowledge Religion score, knowing that some paladins have celestial followers rather than bonded mounts isn't really that Meta. Otherwise, how could anyone talk about the different kinds of holy knights in game?
Quite a few people in the party can disguise themselves as whatever they want. The ones I'm concerned about are the ones who can't. Whatever our cover is, its going to have to be centered around those people. We need the ones with low bluff, or limited ability to change their appearance, to have covers that don't require much explanation.
I still haven't figured out what to do about Detect Undead. I guess we just hope that no one casts it. Its sort of a niche spell, so the odds are good it won't come up.
I'm good with whatever guys. Also Delyliath, wanna be part of my fall, and tie our backstories together?
Misdirection will foil Detect Undead (unless the caster makes a will save), as will stuffing someone in a bag of holding, but it's probably overkill, since your average city-bound priest might not waste their precious spell slots on something so situational.
Also, it looks like everyone's checked in, so I might try to move the story forward soon, since any gnolls y'all might choose to fight on the way to Solku will probably not be tough enough to require perfected character sheets. (I'm actually surprised and impressed at how fast the game has been going, but I've also been checking in quite a bit more than usual to follow all the interesting discussions)
Eh, its been a slow day at work. I'll probably slow down to 1-2 posts per day any day now.
That';s a trend I've noticed in evil games. For some reason everyone gets on the same page really fast.
Evil tends to be more proactive than good in my experience.
I'm good with whatever guys. Also Delyliath, wanna be part of my fall, and tie our backstories together?
Delyliath would love to make an Azata fall. Besides.. is not like you have any strange evil template... you just change alignment...
So I guess I just made you "change perspective" about the world.About that... how would you like to develop that? would you like to be one of her lovers (I think is the most obvious choice) or what else?
Delyliath has no notion of "evil" as a united force or "promoting evil for evil sake".
So making you fall to her would be either for fun or for personal profit.
What's sure is that having an Azata as playmate (or plaything) is something she would rather enjoy.
I have my RL game tonight, so won't be posting till later.
So, in your rulings on how Outsiders tire, can they fly in place on top of updrafts for their 16 hours of downtime?
Went ahead and got gear for Iranaset. Pretty bare bones but we'll see where it gets her.
I presume spotting the open air in front of me is a DC 0 check I can take 10 on if I'm doing it enough times that I should get the average?
Considering I'm not expecting aerial ambush, I can just greater teleport myself forward every 6 seconds for another, on average, 310 ft of distance without the effort of walking, right?
Presuming 8 hours of that, Illia can travel roughly 282 miles a day.
Presuming from your description that the destination was 72 miles away, Illia can reach the city in a sneeze over two hours.
Gosh you guys make me feel like I was way too conservative when I made my "monster".
There's a lot of that in this group. :)
Iranaset, just because we are monsters does not make us strong. I used being a monster to super-specialize. Illia- has insane defense and crazy devil bonuses, but her melee routine, which is her main deal as a martial character, is actually lower in DPS than Delyliath and yours. And if haste gets thrown in, you guys pull waaaay ahead. And that's before you throw in spellcasting/magus stuff!
I weigh four pounds.