Reposting this here, because I feel this would only be a problem needing clarification in PFS. So I'm looking at the Agathiel Vigilante archetype, and am curious about the bolded bit here:
At 1st level, an agathiel’s vigilante identity must invoke the appearance and behavior of a single Small or Medium creature of the animal type. The vigilante can attempt to appear to be a normal member of this animal type, but doing so imposes a –10 penalty on his Disguise check. The bonus provided by seamless guise still applies to the vigilante’s attempts to appear to be an ordinary animal. Once the vigilante’s animal form is selected, it cannot be changed.
Beginning at 4th level, when an agathiel assumes his vigilante identity, he physically transforms into an animal, though he always retains unusual traits that set him apart from ordinary animals, as if using beast shape I, except the vigilante gains no ability adjustments and can select only a single animal ability from those listed in the spell’s description. His social identity remains his true form, and unlike with beast shape I, an agathiel can remain in his animal form indefinitely. The agathiel’s vigilante identity is considered a polymorph effect, and while in his vigilante identity, the agathiel is immune to other polymorph effects.
Unlike with normal polymorph effects, the agathiel’s equipment does not meld into his form, and instead changes shape to fit his animal form and provides the same function, though any equipment requiring hands cannot be used until he returns to his social identity.
At 8th level, when assuming his vigilante identity, the vigilante can select two abilities provided by beast shape I, or select a single ability provided by beast shape II. At 12th level, he can instead select two abilities provided by beast shape II, or a single ability provided by beast shape III. At 16th level, he can instead select three abilities provided by beast shape III, or a single ability provided by beast shape IV.
This ability alters dual identity and replaces the vigilante talents gained at 4th, 8th, 12th, and 16th levels.
This states that while your equipment remains intact, you can't use equipment that requires hands. I'm assuming this statement is in there because most animals don't have hands, so they didn't want the fact that equipment remains and 'provides the same function' to say the tiger can still wield a greataxe - but what about animals that DO have hands? The Ekujae elves have Agathiel's among them, and I'd think primates are rather common in the Mwangi Expanse. Can an Agathiel that transforms into a primate still wield weapons or manipulate objects with their hands?
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Probably just use the FAQ for Animal Companion item slots.
That's already PFS-specific so it should work in this case, I'd imagine.
Yeah, I know any reasonable home gm would certainly allow that - but I worry that some pfs GM's would see the specific exclusion of being able to use hands in that form as overriding that.
Haven't built the character yet, due to the concern over it. No need to invest myself into a character that will just cause problems.
