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Vassikaan |
"Celestial
Celestial is spoken by all benevolent races of the Outer Sphere. It shares aspects of its structure with both Sylvan and Draconic.[2] In Tian Xia, Celestial is the official language of the aasimar nation of Tianjing, and is growing in popularity in Kwanlai as well."
Close enough for what I need
Set |
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They have True Seeing, but not truespeech.
Is there an Axis specific language/Neutral plane language?
Doesn't seem like there's a axiomite, inevitable or formian specific language, or even a daemon-specific language (they speak both infernal and abyssal instead), or a div language or a rakshasa language or a kyton language, etc., etc.
Logically, there should probably be *hundreds* of different infernal and abyssal languages alone. If there can be four to six common tongues among just northern Avistani humans, there should probably be dozens of languages in just a single plane of Hell...
Similarly, it's pretty much for our convenience that salamanders, azers, fire mephits, fire elementals and efreeti all happen to speak the same Ignan language, and never in their tends of thousands of years existing as separate cultures came up with their own tongues.
Not to mention dozens of different dwarven, elven, halfling, orcish, gnomish, goblinoid, giantish, etc. languages (and cultures), for that matter. No real reason for every race other than human to have a single language, or, in the case of angels, archons, agathions and azata, four different races, sometimes living in completely different dimensions, sharing Celestial as their sole language.
But that way lies madness!
Vassikaan |
Vassikaan wrote:They have True Seeing, but not truespeech.
Is there an Axis specific language/Neutral plane language?Doesn't seem like there's a axiomite, inevitable or formian specific language, or even a daemon-specific language (they speak both infernal and abyssal instead), or a div language or a rakshasa language or a kyton language, etc., etc.
Logically, there should probably be *hundreds* of different infernal and abyssal languages alone. If there can be four to six common tongues among just northern Avistani humans, there should probably be dozens of languages in just a single plane of Hell...
Similarly, it's pretty much for our convenience that salamanders, azers, fire mephits, fire elementals and efreeti all happen to speak the same Ignan language, and never in their tends of thousands of years existing as separate cultures came up with their own tongues.
Not to mention dozens of different dwarven, elven, halfling, orcish, gnomish, goblinoid, giantish, etc. languages (and cultures), for that matter. No real reason for every race other than human to have a single language, or, in the case of angels, archons, agathions and azata, four different races, sometimes living in completely different dimensions, sharing Celestial as their sole language.
But that way lies madness!
Mind blown. Too much thinking. Shutting Down.
But yeah, Imma just use Celestial
LazarX |
Seriously though, if they have truespeech, they probably just speak whatever to each other. There probably should have been a language for each plane...
From what I've seen in novels, They communicate to each other by nesting the equations that make up their essence. pretty much like binary transmissions, only it's Axiomary.
Vassikaan |
Kalindlara wrote:Seriously though, if they have truespeech, they probably just speak whatever to each other. There probably should have been a language for each plane...From what I've seen in novels, They communicate to each other by nesting the equations that make up their essence. pretty much like binary transmissions, only it's Axiomary.
Anything in the novels about how they'd speak to non-Axiomites?
LazarX |
LazarX wrote:Anything in the novels about how they'd speak to non-Axiomites?Kalindlara wrote:Seriously though, if they have truespeech, they probably just speak whatever to each other. There probably should have been a language for each plane...From what I've seen in novels, They communicate to each other by nesting the equations that make up their essence. pretty much like binary transmissions, only it's Axiomary.
Yes... with their mouths.. in Common. Or whatever appropriate planar language that would suit the recipient.
Lurion Coravoss |
Perfect example of realism vs. gameism. So the answer is: It's whatever a DM and their PCs are comfortable with. Going the as is route is the easy way. Giving them a unique language and many others to boot is the realistic way that can add more player immersion if that's what you're going for. Personally in my games we throw out common call it Taldane and be done with it. Makes linguistics and a few more spells much more useful/powerful though, so keep that in consideration. As for their language if any race outside of robots were to speak in math, I would definitely make it the Axiomites and their favored creations the Inevitables.
Drejk |
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Vassikaan wrote:They have True Seeing, but not truespeech.
Is there an Axis specific language/Neutral plane language?Doesn't seem like there's a axiomite, inevitable or formian specific language, or even a daemon-specific language (they speak both infernal and abyssal instead), or a div language or a rakshasa language or a kyton language, etc., etc.
Logically, there should probably be *hundreds* of different infernal and abyssal languages alone. If there can be four to six common tongues among just northern Avistani humans, there should probably be dozens of languages in just a single plane of Hell...
Similarly, it's pretty much for our convenience that salamanders, azers, fire mephits, fire elementals and efreeti all happen to speak the same Ignan language, and never in their tends of thousands of years existing as separate cultures came up with their own tongues.
Not to mention dozens of different dwarven, elven, halfling, orcish, gnomish, goblinoid, giantish, etc. languages (and cultures), for that matter. No real reason for every race other than human to have a single language, or, in the case of angels, archons, agathions and azata, four different races, sometimes living in completely different dimensions, sharing Celestial as their sole language.
But that way lies madness!
Actually outsider immortality and their "procreation" method that gives life to fully formed, fully self-aware beings with preknowledge build-in instead of mortal growth, learning, adjusting knowledge, and passing knowledge to the next generation cycle should prevent or at least seriously slow down the linguistic processes. Add to this commonly present telepathy and teleportation abilities, responsible for perfect communication and instantaneous travel, allowing for presence of relatively homogeneous planar languages.
It is quite accurate observation when it comes to mortal races, though longevity, limited number of separate communities, and access to fast transportation might slow down the language differentiation rates for some races such as elves.