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Actually, according to Empty Graves (Part 2 of Mummy's Mask), the deities in question were originally Osirian deities, but they began to take less of a role in things, and eventually shifted their attention to Earth. Presumably they have also shifted their attention away from Earth, along with other deities for whatever reason, but they don't seem to be involved much on Golarion either, though there's still a few people who worship the old deities in Osirion...most, however, worship the new gods (ie, the Core Twenty). One rather suspects they've turned their attention to yet another planet...if not than one.
The Osirian old deities are explicitly the same deities worshiped in ancient Egypt on earth, in canon.
I know the OP's questions have already been answered, but I forgot that there was a section on the gods and other planes in Distant World. So in the name of thoroughness... these two sections confirm that:
-Most worlds have a concept of an evil archdevil (Asmodeus of course), and Pharasma is known pretty much throughout the universe. By contrast, Iomedae, Cayden Cailean, and Norgorber are effectively unknown outside of Golarion. However James Jacobs did mention that, for reasons currently mysterious, Norgorber is active on Androffa.
-All planets are "equidistant from the planes of the Great Beyond." This means that outsiders have an equal chance of showing up throughout the universe.
-Outsiders don't put much distinction on different planets. We all look alike to them.
-The First World and Shadow Plane overlay the entire Material Plane; which is to say, every planet as well as the void of outer space, and even the Dark Tapestry. What's the Shadow or First World version of the Dark Tapestry like? That's something I'd like to see...
Paladin of Baha-who? wrote: The Osirian old deities are explicitly the same deities worshiped in ancient Egypt on earth, in canon. That's an interesting shift from the original Osirion source book, which described two deities who, although they fit into the pantheon quite well, are not historical Egyptian deities.
IonutRO wrote: James Jacobs wrote: IonutRO wrote: In some versions of german folklore the Wild Hunt WAS lead by Odin. Just felt like bringing that up.
Interesting. News to me, though. And as such, doesn't really change the fact that I was never directly inspired by Odin to create Erastil. Oh, this reminds me, and you've probably been asked this before, but why of all Earth pantheons the Egyptian one is active on Golarion? And I mean from a design point of view, not a lore one, but you can answer it like that as well.
Also, does that mean that the ancient Egyptians had Divine Magic at their disposal as recent as the time of the Roman Empire? And would the influence of such gods come back to Earth now that there are many Neo-Pagan groups reviving worship in older gods, including the Egyptian ones? In fact, I've never been asked that before!
It's not what I would say "active" really. There are echoes of it still active, but I would hardly quantify that pantheon as being robust in modern Golarion. From a design viewpoint, it's the one that makes the most sense because Osirion is the region most heavily and obviously inspired by a single specific real-world historical region. The Lands of the Linnorm Kings probably come in second there, but even they're different enough from real-world vikings (with all that linnorm-based rulership stuff) that Osirion still takes the cake.
It doesn't necessarily mean that real-world Egyptians had magic... but I kinda like to think it does.
James Jacobs wrote: IonutRO wrote: James Jacobs wrote: IonutRO wrote: In some versions of german folklore the Wild Hunt WAS lead by Odin. Just felt like bringing that up.
Interesting. News to me, though. And as such, doesn't really change the fact that I was never directly inspired by Odin to create Erastil. Oh, this reminds me, and you've probably been asked this before, but why of all Earth pantheons the Egyptian one is active on Golarion? And I mean from a design point of view, not a lore one, but you can answer it like that as well.
Also, does that mean that the ancient Egyptians had Divine Magic at their disposal as recent as the time of the Roman Empire? And would the influence of such gods come back to Earth now that there are many Neo-Pagan groups reviving worship in older gods, including the Egyptian ones? In fact, I've never been asked that before!
It's not what I would say "active" really. There are echoes of it still active, but I would hardly quantify that pantheon as being robust in modern Golarion. From a design viewpoint, it's the one that makes the most sense because Osirion is the region most heavily and obviously inspired by a single specific real-world historical region. The Lands of the Linnorm Kings probably come in second there, but even they're different enough from real-world vikings (with all that linnorm-based rulership stuff) that Osirion still takes the cake.
It doesn't necessarily mean that real-world Egyptians had magic... but I kinda like to think it does. Given the hints in the Rasputin adventure, it seems only reasonable. IIRC correctly, that suggested there were still traces left much more recently than ancient Egypt.
thejeff wrote:
And from the Rasputin adventure, we do know that magic did once exist on Earth and has faded away, though we don't know exactly when. It doesn't appear to be connected to groups worshipping older gods though, so it's unlikely to return for that reason.
Its all that unpredictable Gygax radiation that is randomly distributed throughout the universe. Earth passed through a big chunk of it a few thousand years ago and now, not so much.
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