Tiny Halflings, make me happy


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I'll explain what I'm looking for Advice-wise in a bit, but first, the necessary backstory. So when rolling for my Halflings height/weight, my DM's sons got the shortest/heaviest possible results: 2'10" & 38lbs Later on, while in a temple, a Reduce Person trap made him Tiny, halving his height, length, and width and dividing his weight by 8.

2'10" = 34" which, when Reduced by 2 = 17"

Or 1 foot 5 inches tall.

Now where things start to get really interesting is with a Belt of the Weasel, via it granting the Compression (Ex) ability.
"The creature can move through an area as small as one-quarter its space without squeezing or one-eighth its space when squeezing."

17"/4 = able to move through something as small as 4.25"
17"/8 = 2.125" to be able to squeeze through

What I'm wondering is if anyone has any advice on how to make this actually useful. It still doesn't seem small enough to squeeze under a door, so other than maybe hiding in a pouch or other container, not sure if it has any practical dungeon application. It's still funny as hell to me either way though.

Anyone have any ideas for a Tiny, Reduced Squeezing Halfling?


A door only needs to be open a crack for them to squeeze through.

They can go anywhere a rat can go. That means if their are rat holes in the dungeon they can get through those.

No cage will ever hold them.


Good point about a cage; but more so for squeezing through bars on a window or sewer grate though- anyone locking up the party would definitely think about putting the Tiny Halfling in a bird cage or other more secure prison.

Mathius wrote:
They can go anywhere a rat can go.

Technically rats are the mammalian masters of compression:"They can also squeeze their bodies through holes no bigger than a quarter."


And speaking of doors, here's a video of a rat squeezing under a shut door.


Just to clarify though, squeezing doesn't reference your height, it references your 'space'. The space for a tiny creature is 2.5 feat, as opposed to the 5 foot square for small and medium creature. So, yes, you can squeeze through an opening that is just a few inches wide, but the 17" height doesn't have anything to do with that, any tiny creature with compression would have the same game rule ability to squeeze, regardless of exact physical dimensions of the creature.


Dave Justus wrote:
Just to clarify though, squeezing doesn't reference your height, it references your 'space'. The space for a tiny creature is 2.5 feat, as opposed to the 5 foot square for small and medium creature. So, yes, you can squeeze through an opening that is just a few inches wide, but the 17" height doesn't have anything to do with that,

Ah, good catch. So the revised math I believe is:

2.5'/4= 7.25" for moving through
2.5'/8= 3.625 for squeezing through

Did I do that right?


I have a Tiny Halfling Swashbuckler (Mouser) build that works. Well, two of them really...

One goes Cav (Honor Guard) 2 / Paladin (Sacred Shield) 4 / Magus (Eldritch Scion) X and abuses the Aid Another action and the Body Guard feat to deliver upwards of +8 bonus on a skill check or save and +20-25 AC to adjacent allies.

The other goes Swashbuckler (Mouser) 1 / Monk (Underfoot Adept) X. Since you get an AoO as a Mouser whenever an enemy steps out of your square, you can trip them using Underfoot Adept. Tiny size means you use your Dex for CMB automatically. With things like Greater Trip and Vicious Stomp, you can hammer home some AoOs. Once you move into something's square, you can rest assured that it will get tripped and get dead mighty quickly.


This Songbird of Doom thread may be relevant for tiny halfling bad asses.

Scarab Sages

Fox shape kitsune are great for these shenanigans too.


Tiny Coffee Golem posting in a thread about Tiny Halflings?! Awesome.

Thanks to everyone for the suggestions; the Swashbuckler (Mouser) & SoD thread is very helpful. I'll look into kitsune, although those seem wackier than even Tiny Halflings.

Silver Crusade

The feat Risky Striker would be very beneficial to someone so small.


Yeah Velxir, that's a great one. Especially since this damage is multiplied on critical hits & I do the whole Keen scimitar thing.

So I was watching a 2012 horror movie called 'No One Lives' & it gave me another idea for using the powers of Tiny:

Movie plot spoiler:
the protagonist, aka Bard from Bowman, literally hides inside a much bigger (What's the guy going to do, he's Samoan) body, for purposes of infiltration. But it could also be a means of escape.

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