True Resurrection and gear.


Rules Questions

Grand Lodge

So, when someone is brought back by true resurrection, do you just get the body? or do they show up with whatever gear they were wearing when they died? What about if they dropped their weapon when they died, does the weapon come back with them anyway?

Basically, I can see two ways this works: One, the spell recreates the person. If they get to keep their gear, there are now two copies of their gear wandering around. (Hmm... At some point this becomes a very convenient way to duplicate powerful magic items.)

Two: the spell snaps away the body, moments before it's death, and teleports it to you, and heals it back to life. The down side to this interpretation is that if the PCs ever kill anyone who is important enough that someone else is willing to spring for true resurrection, they don't get to keep any of his loot...

Shadow Lodge

It'd be just the body. That's all that makes sense.


Pretty sure it's just the body. You want the equipment, better pick it up at the time.


It's three: It sends the soul back to life, and, if the body isn't available (since the spell can bring back creatures whose bodies have been completely destroyed), creates a body matching the one the soul possessed before death.

The equipment the person possessed before death, if that equipment still exists, remains wherever it happens to be. The spell doesn't teleport it to you, and it doesn't recreate it.


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Are wrote:

It's three: It sends the soul back to life, and, if the body isn't available (since the spell can bring back creatures whose bodies have been completely destroyed), creates a body matching the one the soul possessed before death.

The equipment the person possessed before death, if that equipment still exists, remains wherever it happens to be. The spell doesn't teleport it to you, and it doesn't recreate it.

This. True Resurrection remakes the body whole.

In fact, I always consider that any flesh from the previous body continues to exist as well after a new body is created, but the previous flesh is inert for the purposes of Raise and Resurrection spells, or any spells that create undead. (In other words it can't be used to Raise the person or turned into undead. It's just meat, not a valid corpse.) So it's possible that an adventurer could come upon their own corpse, still wearing their gear.

Imagine the trauma a character might suffer if he finds his own corpse in the dungeon that killed him. Imagine the Resurrected mad wizard that likes to keep his own former skull around as a memento.

"Whose skull is that?"
"Oh, it's mine. I recovered it from the ghouls that ate me, along with my spellbook." The wizard patted the bloodstained book chained to his belt.

Of course the spell itself doesn't specify what happens to the former body, it just indicates it can make a new one.


Wolf Munroe wrote:
Are wrote:

It's three: It sends the soul back to life, and, if the body isn't available (since the spell can bring back creatures whose bodies have been completely destroyed), creates a body matching the one the soul possessed before death.

The equipment the person possessed before death, if that equipment still exists, remains wherever it happens to be. The spell doesn't teleport it to you, and it doesn't recreate it.

This. True Resurrection remakes the body whole.

In fact, I always consider that any flesh from the previous body continues to exist as well after a new body is created, but the previous flesh is inert for the purposes of Raise and Resurrection spells, or any spells that create undead. (In other words it can't be used to Raise the person or turned into undead. It's just meat, not a valid corpse.) So it's possible that an adventurer could come upon their own corpse, still wearing their gear.

Imagine the trauma a character might suffer if he finds his own corpse in the dungeon that killed him. Imagine the Resurrected mad wizard that likes to keep his own former skull around as a memento.

"Whose skull is that?"
"Oh, it's mine. I recovered it from the ghouls that ate me, along with my spellbook." The wizard patted the bloodstained book chained to his belt.

Of course the spell itself doesn't specify what happens to the former body, it just indicates it can make a new one.

Sooooo.... The sick and twisted way to use it is to make dinner for the party? So... Sir meat shield DIE! True Res... Dinner is served :D

Grand Lodge

I just visualize a really evil oracle. "Damn, I haven't burned my 9th level spell slot today. Ah well, I guess we are having party member for dinner again tonight."


FLite wrote:
I just visualize a really evil oracle. "Damn, I haven't burned my 9th level spell slot today. Ah well, I guess we are having party member for dinner again tonight."

The only thing that slightly ruins it, is spells like heroes feast that you could cast considerably cheaper than a true res.


Lifat wrote:
FLite wrote:
I just visualize a really evil oracle. "Damn, I haven't burned my 9th level spell slot today. Ah well, I guess we are having party member for dinner again tonight."
The only thing that slightly ruins it, is spells like heroes feast that you could cast considerably cheaper than a true res.

But getting to eat that annoying guy after he nearly got everyone else killed? Priceless.


Lifat wrote:
The only thing that slightly ruins it, is spells like heroes feast that you could cast considerably cheaper than a true res.

Reincarnate is a cheaper option for cannibalism. Like true resurrection, the creature returns in a new body. Certain characters can do it for free, and it can be mechanically desirable to do it multiple times to get a desirable race.

It's 1000gp and a 4th level spell slot for a druid, but a witch has two options for doing it free: blood money + a 5th level spell slot (+lesser restoration, a free spell, for strength damage), or Forced Reincarnation (once per day grand hex). You still have the negative levels that it gives the recipient to contend with though, which is a 1000gp restoration spell. A healing patron witch can get restoration and use the blood money trick to do that for free too.

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