Horse Master feat


Rules Questions

Liberty's Edge

Is it me or do the mechanics of the Horse Master feat from UC seem kinda wonky?

"Use your character level to determine your effective druid level for determining the powers and abilities of your mount."

So... a Cavalier 1 / Fighter 9 with this feat would have a mount with exactly the same abilities as that of a Cavalier 10. Seems a bit extreme for a single feat. For the price of a feat they're getting nine levels worth of one of the 'major powers' of the Cavalier class... or more at higher levels.

For classes that get their own animal companion it is potentially even crazier;

Cavalier 1 / Paladin 9
Interpretation 1: Mount level for Cavalier is raised to character level (10) and 'animal companion' levels from all classes stack... yielding a 19th level Paladin mount.

Interpretation 2: Mount level for Cavalier is raised to character level (10), but 'animal companion' levels from each class are evaluated separately... yielding a 10th level Cavalier mount and a 9th level Paladin mount.

Interpretation 3: Levels for all 'animal companion' classes stack first (9 + 1 = 10) and the feat then 'raises' this to character level (also 10)... yielding just a 10th level Paladin mount.

Interpretation 3 is the only one that doesn't seem 'broken'... but also means the feat does nothing at all and is the least consistent with how the feat works in other cases.

So am I reading this wrong or is this feat 'Boon Companion' on steroids?


You need 4 levels in Cavalier before you can take the feat.


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CBDunkerson wrote:
So am I reading this wrong or is this feat 'Boon Companion' on steroids?

I think that you are misreading it. You can't have more levels than your character level in anything.

The feat allows a Cavalier to have a more durable mount.

Liberty's Edge

Cheapy wrote:
You need 4 levels in Cavalier before you can take the feat.

Good point, but it doesn't change the underlying issue. Switch the examples to Cavalier 4/Fighter (or Paladin) 6. Better, because you can't do a 'one level dip', but still a potent boost for a single feat.


Yes, it's meant to keep the multiclass cavalier's mount relevant no matter what class he multiclasses into.

A cavalier 4 / fighter 6 would base his mount as if he was a cavalier 10, which is the point of the feat.

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