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Can Eldritch Heritage: Arcane Bloodline (Arcane Bond) be used in conjunction with some other class feature (Wizard, Snake Bloodline, etc.) to gain two Familiars? If not, why not? If so, could they both be improved by Improved Familiar, or could only one since the feat can only be taken once?
Levels of different classes that are entitled to familiars stack for the purpose of determining any familiar abilities that depend on the master's level.
Third paragraph. The levels stack, you don't get two familiars.
Levels of different classes that are entitled to familiars stack for the purpose of determining any familiar abilities that depend on the master's level.Third paragraph. The levels stack, you don't get two familiars.
But would feats that earn you Familiars be considered 'classes that are entitled to Familiars'?
In the case of a Wizard who took the Eldritch Heritage feat for the Arcane Bloodline, would his effective Sorcerer level (Character level -2) stack with his Wizard level, meaning would a 10th level Wizard have a Familiar with 18th level abilities? That doesn't sound right to me...
But would feats that earn you Familiars be considered 'classes that are entitled to Familiars'?
In the case of a Wizard who took the Eldritch Heritage feat for the Arcane Bloodline, would his effective Sorcerer level (Character level -2) stack with his Wizard level, meaning would a 10th level Wizard have a Familiar with 18th level abilities? That doesn't sound right to me...
Your sorcerer levels stack with any wizard levels you possess when determining the powers of your familiar or bonded object.
Huh. By RAW it certainly seems like a 10th level Wizard would have a familiar w/ 18th level abilities in that scenario. I agree that doesn't sound right and would house rule that a wizard could not choose the familiar option if taking Eldritch Heritage w/ the Arcane Bloodline (assuming they chose the familiar as a wizard). I'm not sure what the PFS rules might state on this, as I don't play in those games. I would suggest you consult your GM to get an answer.
Wizard and diabolist. You get a familiar and an Imp companion
The Imp companion is treated as an animal companion, so yeah, that works. Good suggestion. W/ Improved Familiar you could have two Imps that way.
But would feats that earn you Familiars be considered 'classes that are entitled to Familiars'?
In the case of a Wizard who took the Eldritch Heritage feat for the Arcane Bloodline, would his effective Sorcerer level (Character level -2) stack with his Wizard level, meaning would a 10th level Wizard have a Familiar with 18th level abilities? That doesn't sound right to me...
Your sorcerer levels stack with any wizard levels you possess when determining the powers of your familiar or bonded object.Huh. By RAW it certainly seems like a 10th level Wizard would have a familiar w/ 18th level abilities in that scenario. I agree that doesn't sound right and would house rule that a wizard could not choose the familiar option if taking Eldritch Heritage w/ the Arcane Bloodline (assuming they chose the familiar as a wizard). I'm not sure what the PFS rules might state on this, as I don't play in those games. I would suggest you consult your GM to get an answer.
The problem then becomes that the Arcane Bloodline: Arcane Bond specifically states that you can not use that feat/ability to gain both a Familiar and a Bonded Item... which begs the question, can you use that mechanism to have two bonded items?
We had an Arcane Duelist in our party once who had both his rapier and light shield as bonded items and it really made for a great character concept, but I don't know how legal it was.
More and more its looking like RAI, Wizards were not supposed to be able to take advantage of that Bloodline - which is frustrating considering it seems that would be the ideal choice for them both mechanically and thematically... though I suppose it could be a way for an archetype like Spellbinder to get their bond back.
Oh yeah, says it right there. I don't really see the harm in allowing a character both a familiar and a bonded item myself (considering they had to take two feats to get there, Skill Focus and Eldritch Heritage), but maybe I'm over looking something unbalancing about it. <shrugs>
I'd have to consider two bonded objects. It sounds like a fun idea but I could see some GMs ruling you had to have both items to cast spells w/out a concentration check, which could be frustrating at times. It probably isn't allowed by the rules though, as it seems like the bonded item levels would stack as well...but I can't tell that it would do anything other than increase the cost of replacing it...
I have to agree, it doesn't look like they intended a wizard to use Eldritch Heritage to get access to the Arcane Bloodline.
If not, why not?
You can get two animal companion through the Lvl 20 Ex ability: Animal Majestry
I would houserule that you can get more than one familiar, but you must spent levels for the other familiar:
Wizard Lvl 20 = 1 familiar Lvl 20
Wizard Lvl 20 = 2 familiars Lvl 10 (or with lvl-sum 20)
With your Idea I would houserule
Sorcerer (arcane bloodline) Lvl ## = Familiar 1 Lvl ##
+ Wizzard Lvl ## = Familiar 2 Lvl ##