The rapier of puncturing (page 159 of "Ultimate Equipment") is a really nifty weapon and I have been looking at it to try to understand the design behind the magic weapons a bit before.
There is little math to work out and understand. The design of weapon abilities doesn't necessarily fit the same matrix as the design of spells. (Thus no greatswords of True Strike.) This is particularly true when you're comparing numeric enhancements (like the +2) with effectively spell-like special abilities, since one scales quadratically and the other is effectively a fixed cost.
IF you want a comparison spell, look at Poison, a third-level druid spell that causes several rounds of 1d3 Con damage, but which permits a saving throw.
It just plain shouldn't be allowed. It is, as you said, overpowered to have a weapon that does 1d6 con damage with every hit. Some abilities just shouldn't happen.
It doesn't do it on every hit; it does it 3x per day. Still a damn powerful weapon, but not substantially different than a (possibly heightened) poison spell.
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It just plain shouldn't be allowed. It is, as you said, overpowered to have a weapon that does 1d6 con damage with every hit. Some abilities just shouldn't happen.It doesn't do it on every hit; it does it 3x per day. Still a damn powerful weapon, but not substantially different than a (possibly heightened) poison spell.
Read the OP's post. He is looking at what the cost would be for it to do the 1d6 con damage ON EVERY HIT. I said it shouldn't matter because that would be Overpowered.
Read the OP's post. He is looking at what the cost would be for it to do the 1d6 con damage ON EVERY HIT. I said it shouldn't matter because that would be Overpowered.It just plain shouldn't be allowed. It is, as you said, overpowered to have a weapon that does 1d6 con damage with every hit. Some abilities just shouldn't happen.It doesn't do it on every hit; it does it 3x per day. Still a damn powerful weapon, but not substantially different than a (possibly heightened) poison spell.
Ah, my apologies. Yes, an every-hit version of this weapon should be eliminated for the same reason that a rapier of True Strike is.
Yea..that is op, try making it do less like 1d3 if you are going to do that, or 1d2, or even 1 damadge! But I highly advise you not to do this...
It just plain shouldn't be allowed. It is, as you said, overpowered to have a weapon that does 1d6 con damage with every hit. Some abilities just shouldn't happen.Indeed, I certainly agree with that, but I wish to have the numbers, mostly to improve my understanding of how to calculate this kind of values for other spells...
And, yes, there is a dagger of poison that use the poison spell and is much cheaper too (8000gp) and I will most likely end up using that template...
But I would like to make sure my math is, at least theorically, correct...
It is not your math that is flawed it is your presumption that the math actually has any bearing on a specific weapon, specific weapons are generally cheaper than it's component parts, and are likewise usually not optimal item choices for the enchantment. If you want a specific weapon that does something like that judge it on it's own potential.
FWIW, there's an enchantment from the old 3.0 Book of Vile Darkness called Marrowcrushing, which inflicted 1 Con damage with every hit. It was a +3 enchantment.
Unless that weapon is different (don't have the book), wounding does 1 point of bleed damage per hit. The enhancement bonus has nothing to do with it.
Make Stilts of Poke-Kick, and give them to the Monk.