Any chance you will re-print the original flip-mat dungeon?
Chief Technical Officer
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Any chance you will re-print the original flip-mat dungeon?
Nope. Except for the basic flip-mat, reprinting doesn't make a lot of sense. People who already have the old mat won't buy it again, but if we replace it with a brand-new design (as we're doing here), then some of the people who have the old one might pick up the new version. So as they go out of print, we'll be redesigning them, not reprinting them (except for the basic grid-only Flip-Mat).
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Then please add a number to your map names, like dungeon 2 and so on. I know it is cliche and rather boring but at stores that may have a backlog of merchandise a customer will not be confused and end up with multiple copies.
Thank you for your update.
The image will enlarge your sales of B1, I think.
Excellent work, as always.
This is an awesome map. There are nice runes here and there, spider webs, and lots of coffins.
This is awfully handy to avoid having to draw out the Crypt of the Everflame dungeon by hand, but how does anyone intend to implement the "fog of war" as the party explores the dungeon to keep them from looking ahead? I was thinking of cutting various paper flaps to tape to the map and pull off to reveal each room once they've decided which way to go.
At OwlCon I used that very technique to hide the three rooms from the party as we played The Third Riddle. So either using paper or using pieces of cloth would work just fine.
Just my 2 cp.
And Post-Its stick nicely to it without sliding around if you bump the mat.
What scale is the map squares? the 1 square = 5 ft but is the square also about an 1", so mini's work with the scaling?
Kohl
The squares are 1".
This is awfully handy to avoid having to draw out the Crypt of the Everflame dungeon by hand, but how does anyone intend to implement the "fog of war" as the party explores the dungeon to keep them from looking ahead? I was thinking of cutting various paper flaps to tape to the map and pull off to reveal each room once they've decided which way to go.
I think I've found the perfect stuff for this: Glass-Chalk or Window Marker
It's used for marking car windows "GO TEAM!" etc and comes in many colors. The black does an excellent job of obscuring the map. It covers well with the applicator, is resistant to light wear and wipes off with a dry paper towel. Although this does generate some black crumbs.
Next test is to leave it on the map for a couple few days and make sure it's still as easy to rub off.
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This is awfully handy to avoid having to draw out the Crypt of the Everflame dungeon by hand, but how does anyone intend to implement the "fog of war" as the party explores the dungeon to keep them from looking ahead? I was thinking of cutting various paper flaps to tape to the map and pull off to reveal each room once they've decided which way to go.I think I've found the perfect stuff for this: Glass-Chalk or Window Marker
It's used for marking car windows "GO TEAM!" etc and comes in many colors. The black does an excellent job of obscuring the map. It covers well with the applicator, is resistant to light wear and wipes off with a dry paper towel. Although this does generate some black crumbs.
Next test is to leave it on the map for a couple few days and make sure it's still as easy to rub off.
please repost after you do the couple few days test. This could end my quest for black post-it notes!!!!!!!!
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This is awfully handy to avoid having to draw out the Crypt of the Everflame dungeon by hand, but how does anyone intend to implement the "fog of war" as the party explores the dungeon to keep them from looking ahead? I was thinking of cutting various paper flaps to tape to the map and pull off to reveal each room once they've decided which way to go.I think I've found the perfect stuff for this: Glass-Chalk or Window Marker
It's used for marking car windows "GO TEAM!" etc and comes in many colors. The black does an excellent job of obscuring the map. It covers well with the applicator, is resistant to light wear and wipes off with a dry paper towel. Although this does generate some black crumbs.
Next test is to leave it on the map for a couple few days and make sure it's still as easy to rub off.
Interesting. If you mark up the map with wet-erase or permanent markers, and then black over it with the window marker, do the previous markings remain intact?
OK, tested at the 1 week mark, here are my findings:
- After ~36 hours, it does become harder to rub the marker off the plastic surface of the flip-mat. Dry rub with a paper towel will still remove 95% of the marker. It's actually almost completely resistant to unintentional removal by this point as well.
- Some spots and streaks require concerted effort to remove. YMMV on how much elbow grease to use on a game table loaded w/ minis, munchies, etc.
- You can get it clean enough to play w/o too much trouble, but some spots remained when the marker was left on this long.
- Removing the chalk marker will remove wet-erase markings underneath. Not sure about permanent marker...
- The black crumbs that were like dry-erase crumbs day-1 are more like laser toner on day-7. Fine black dust that will stick, smear and stain.
- The flip-mat can be returned to like new condition with wet cleanup. (Glass cleaner & wet paper towels followed by dry) This turns the streaks and spots back to black paint so be careful here as well.
- All in all I think I'd use this method again. The reveal is fairly smooth, but it does work better when it's fresh...
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It works really well, but don't leave it on too long, and be careful w/ cleanup...
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Cheers!
Tom
This is awfully handy to avoid having to draw out the Crypt of the Everflame dungeon by hand, but how does anyone intend to implement the "fog of war" as the party explores the dungeon to keep them from looking ahead? I was thinking of cutting various paper flaps to tape to the map and pull off to reveal each room once they've decided which way to go.
The best part is that you get to tell them this is what its "supposed" to look like... this won't be the first time I reveal "eventually" what THEY don't know...
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Is this the same lay out as the dungeon flip mat that is in the new Beginner Box?
No it is not. This map matches the layout of the dungeon in the module Crypt of the Everflame.
The dungeon on the flip-mat in the BB is for the dungeon depicted in the Game Master's Guide book in the BB. Moreover, the dungeon on flip-mat in the BB is only on one side. The other side is a blank grid (sandy brown).
Is this the same lay out as the dungeon flip mat that is in the new Beginner Box?
One of the sides of the Haunted Dungeon flip-mat is in the Beginner's Box.
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Is this the same lay out as the dungeon flip mat that is in the new Beginner Box?One of the sides of the Haunted Dungeon flip-mat is in the Beginner's Box.
Correct. One of the sides of the Haunted Dungeon flip-mat is reproduced in the BB and is used as the layout for Black Fang's Dungeon.
The other side of the Haunted Dungeon flip-mat (which is not in the version in the BB -- it is replaced with the blank sandy brown grid on the reverse of the map) is the layout used in the free Pathfinder Society Introductory scenario, First Steps Pt 2: To Delve the Dungeon Deep.
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I am doing a one off for some friends later this month and decided to do the Crypt of the Everflame. I love that it uses this flip map.
I considered running D1 for a time. I would love a flip map of that dungeon and Then the follow on from D4.
In general I want more flip map module tie ins. Okay, I would love AP tie ins but I will settle for modules.
Please give me more of that...
Thanks for the great work you all do.
I purchased this at Amazon.. is there any way I can get a thumbnail without the "sample" smeared all over it? I'd like to use them to plan new advenures... I know, the PDF, but I'm not a bank. :P Maybe in my downloads, please?
I purchased this at Amazon.. is there any way I can get a thumbnail without the "sample" smeared all over it? I'd like to use them to plan new advenures... I know, the PDF, but I'm not a bank. :P Maybe in my downloads, please?
Subscribe to the maps. Then you get all the PDFs for free.
Only for newly-released maps during your subscription, however. That's not going to help him get this map.
@RunDM, Paizo's policy is to provide free digital copies only to GameMastery Maps subscribers, and only for new releases, not older maps. This encourages subscriptions, which helps them plan their releases and provides them with a steady monthly income that allows them to continue publishing. I'm afraid you'll either have to ignore the SAMPLE or pony up the price for the PDF if you want a clean copy.
Only for newly-released maps during your subscription, however. That's not going to help him get this map.
@RunDM, Paizo's policy is to provide free digital copies only to GameMastery Maps subscribers, and only for new releases, not older maps. This encourages subscriptions, which helps them plan their releases and provides them with a steady monthly income that allows them to continue publishing. I'm afraid you'll either have to ignore the SAMPLE or pony up the price for the PDF if you want a clean copy.
I'm trying to keep more monthly income.. I taped mine to the wall and took a picture of it with my digital camera. I don't see why they couldn't include a smaller map sheet with the mat, or at least include both sides on the packaging image. Thanks for the reply! :)
Drafting tape is my dark and evil secret for holding these together, available at any decent office supply or art store.
If I purchase a non-mint version of this map, will it definitely be the one which matches up with Crypt of the Everflame, rather than the other flip-mat which was named 'Dungeon'?
If I purchase a non-mint version of this map, will it definitely be the one which matches up with Crypt of the Everflame, rather than the other flip-mat which was named 'Dungeon'?
Per the product description, this is the one that matches the dungeon in Crypt of the Everflame. The non-mint version is different only in its cosmetic appearance, as there might be scuffs, scratches, or folds.
Why is this listed in scratch and dent department? I had hopes of finding it but alas, no reprint of it nor the original adventure. You can find both on Amazon if you are willing to drop almost $100 for sued copies of both the adventure and this flip mat. I am not. If it's such a great intro to the game, why not offer something like this as a add on to the beginner box?
The Beginner Box does include a flip-mat with the dungeon from the Beginner Box adventure. Crypt of the Everflame is written for the full rules set, not the Beginner Box rules.
Why is this listed in scratch and dent department? I had hopes of finding it but alas, no reprint of it nor the original adventure. You can find both on Amazon if you are willing to drop almost $100 for sued copies of both the adventure and this flip mat. I am not. If it's such a great intro to the game, why not offer something like this as a add on to the beginner box?
Have you seen the Flip Mat Classics yet?