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My BF is going into a foray into 5e. He wants to play a rogue.
*light facepalm*
Then he wants to play an advance scout out the area and report to the group type of character.
Then he chose halfling.
Me:Urm...dungeons are dark and you have no Darkvision.. And a torch... Is going to light up the area like a Christmas tree.
I think I'm too practical for my own good.
I'm on the same page on this one. If I'm going to be a forward scout in a dungeon, I want darkvision.
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*puts on clothes*
Kjeldorn, please get better!
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...and they have figured out the art oflyingspin for campaign speeches. I may have created a monster with this Civil War project.
They need to learn sometime. Better now than when they regret their political decisions.
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Try Kango app. It's Lyft for kids, and all drivers have to go through the same DOJ background clearance that teachers do. I've used it for Hermione and Teensy Valeros before.I won't do business with Uber. Period.
We DO have Lyft, which isn't a terrible idea. I'll bounce the idea off NobodysWife.
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If that's the same background clearance teachers here go through, that is not reassuring.
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... spoiler for the dude that forgot what’s going on with Uber?While European courts have a spine and so have seen fit to apply the same worker-protection laws to Uber that it applies to other taxi services, U.S. courts have bought into Uber's legalistic argument that "Our drivers are independent contractors, see? So we can't be expected to pay them minimum wage, provide them benefits, allow them the freedom to unionize, or even promise not to fire them for our own faulty technology, see?"
I've worked as an independent contractor before. That is pretty standard for how independent contractors are treated across the board, in my experience and that of those I have talked to. Uber is just being held to the same standard as everyone else.
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Black panther just proves the point that an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind.
I think the reason why T'Challa lost the ritual combat with Killmonger was because he was suffering from the guilt that his father had left Killmonger orphaned in a foreign land. Here's a guy that your family has screwed the life over. He's coming to claim what is rightfully his. Do you wish to kill him? In his place I would have said "hell no" too. Which was the attitude he was taking into the fight.
And so you feel someone has oppressed your people, and decide you will rule the world so your people can oppress others. So he who fights monsters has finally become the monster he fights....
My BF is going into a foray into 5e. He wants to play a rogue.
*light facepalm*
Then he wants to play an advance scout out the area and report to the group type of character.
Then he chose halfling.
Me:Urm...dungeons are dark and you have no Darkvision.. And a torch... Is going to light up the area like a Christmas tree.
I think I'm too practical for my own good.
the old "beacon of give away our position" problem. Huge fights broke out over that one. Not sure there is a way around it, realism in fantasy games is a huge stumbling block.
I'm on the same page on this one. If I'm going to be a forward scout in a dungeon, I want darkvision.
1) rogue is actually a decent class in 5e
2) the darkvision thing is an issue, but not exclusively; it heavily depends on the kind of game you're going to play. For example, if you play in a lot of urban areas, or broad open grassland fields and hills or even most swamps or forests (so long as it's not night) it's not going to be that big a deal, and may even be ideal in some ways. If, on the other hand, you play in a lot of dark dungeons and tangled forests at night, it gets much worse without a reliable method of seeing in the darkness.
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My BF is more of a dreamer. Like "I want to be a wandering halfling like Tasslehoff Burrfoot and go around the world flinching stuff"
I'm more tied down to reality- OK what did you want your character to do?
Then I'll build that said characters up like an engineer with a car.
Like I'll tell him, sorry, in 5e modules, sleight of hand never came up much.
The other part I didn't tell him would be, had I been GMing a 5e module and you go around my game world pickpocketing NPCs...yeah I consider it under abusing NPCs. I'd probably have the city guards called on you to march you to jail where you'd have to pay an enormous fine to get out on the first failed check. Actions have consequences afterall.
And when he said he wanted to be a forward scout, I told him halflings don't have Darkvision so... Yeah a torch is gonna light you up like a Christmas tree.
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He's playing Prince of the apocalypse. I did get along fine without Darkvision but I didn't get to play the whole module. But I say better to be safe then sorry and get Darkvision.
Scouts motto: Be prepared.
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Oh my first 5e character was a rogue. Then I discovered criminal background. I started playing Clerics and never looked back ;)
You can do all your trapfinding needs with criminal background, and besides mage hand is good for setting off traps, and glyphs of warding can't be cleared with Thieves tools so it's pretty moot anyway.
Some of the Uber damage builds in 5e involves rogue levels. Besides 5e seems to encourage multiclassing though I don't really know how to multiclass for fun and profit yet.
I've got that fighter in Barovia who multiclassed 1 level forge cleric for +1 to attack and damage on his hand crossbow. RP wise, he saw his companions get changed by the foul place so much(a nice bard became a hex blade warlock with a blade that drinks blood of its foes and chuckles after), that he needed therapy or he'd go nuts. So to remind himself things are still real, everyday he pounds at stuff in the forge. It's sort of his tenuous anchor to reality.
Thanks everyone!@Mort: It started as shared interests, but as we kept talking over the summer things got more personal. So yes, I do hope there's room for more.
@Freehold: Yup a vacation sounds nice. I've reached out to the woman in question in hopes of visiting for a few day.
So, I met my wife the last semester she was at college. She graduated (after telling me that we weren't meant to be together... three different times*), and then I went to see Attack of the Clones with her, her brother, and a bunch of other friends. It was such a daggum good film. I, uh... I may not have been paying attention. >.>
ANYway, she later came up to visit me that summer, and we started dating.
Of course, I was halfway up Florida's coast, and she was living in Miami. That's a fair bit of distance. And then, later, I transferred to a college in Tennessee... and she was still in south Florida. That's a niiiiiiiiiiiiiice 10-hour drive, at minimum.
So, long story short: two-and-a-half years later, we got married.
I'll spare you the drama - there was a lot, 'cause family - and I'll let you know that it wasn't easy, but it's super-doable, and we are firmly married 18 years later (not that long by many standards, but we're loving it!), so... it's a possibility.
But everyone - everyone has a different story, a different marriage, and a different life. Our story is not yours, and that's a good thing. Whatever happens, know that it's your life, and that's a good thing, too.
Love you, my man: don't worry; it will all work out in the end.
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Larryn(he's neutrally aligned) has a serious case of PTSD and tends to be shoot first think later. Like there was a little girl ghostie that urged the party to follow her to see her friends, who happened to be ghouls. So the next time he saw her, he shot at her for luring the party into a ghoul ambush, just to get the cleric(who RPs being a paladin), throwing himself in front of her taking the crossbow bolt. And scolded and threatened for shooting little girl ghosts.
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My Dad is a part time grab hitch driver. He picks people up on his way to work and back for extra dosh. Grab even gave him a bonus for being so consistent. And no one's complained about my Dad yet. Mind you he is a walking encyclopedia so he could converse with you intelligently on quite a number of topics if he so chose. He watches a lot of documentaries.
He also... Eats anything that's meat. Hey! I come by my traits honestly!
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...and they have figured out the art ofThey need to learn sometime. Better now than when they regret their political decisions.lyingspin for campaign speeches. I may have created a monster with this Civil War project.
Yeah, that wasn't the intention of this at all. I was just trying to give them a little insight into just how borked the election of 1860 was and why it was the final straw before the Civil War. So I broke them into groups and assigned each a candidate. They're to write a mock campaign speech for their guy.
One of the kids was freaking out that their candidate had, and I quote, "like, no redeeming qualities. At all. He was only there to take votes from other people! We can't write a speech for him, he kept changing his mind!"
So I was trying to cheer them up and give them a little to work with so they'd stop panicking about the project. "Changing his mind? Sounds like he's flexible for his people's needs."
And they stared at me...and there was a very enthusiastic group huddle.
I'm...kind of afraid of what they're going to turn in.
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Also, expressing a bit of frustration with this statement... Putting it in spoiler because of topic.** spoiler omitted **...
After what she pulled today, I can assure you that your reasoning is completely unrelated to her reasons for what she does. She will be lucky if she is not fired. Several of us filed complaints against her with HR this afternoon.
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...and they have figured out the art ofThey need to learn sometime. Better now than when they regret their political decisions.lyingspin for campaign speeches. I may have created a monster with this Civil War project.Yeah, that wasn't the intention of this at all. I was just trying to give them a little insight into just how borked the election of 1860 was and why it was the final straw before the Civil War. So I broke them into groups and assigned each a candidate. They're to write a mock campaign speech for their guy.
One of the kids was freaking out that their candidate had, and I quote, "like, no redeeming qualities. At all. He was only there to take votes from other people! We can't write a speech for him, he kept changing his mind!"
So I was trying to cheer them up and give them a little to work with so they'd stop panicking about the project. "Changing his mind? Sounds like he's flexible for his people's needs."
And they stared at me...and there was a very enthusiastic group huddle.
I'm...kind of afraid of what they're going to turn in.
You should be excited for it! It can be a lot of fun!
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Fear is a type of excitement!
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Marrow/courgette/zucchini chucks might work better.
Zucchini chucks sound good. I always thought you could weaponize vegetables. How about clubbing someone over the head with a Luffa, or using a Huai Shan as a quarterstaff? You could use carrots as batons?
Yeah I liked that scene in RWBY with Weiss and the swordfish Sabre
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Too many people here tonight, the idea is no one comes in and so I don't actually have to do anything.
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Yay! My subs shipped! Which also has my pawns for CotCT and Strange Aeons.
Sweet!!
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Kjeldorn - if you want to impress the woman with leet cooking skillz, we can provide you with recipes. I'd say that a number of us make pretty decent cooks.
I will say you should practice in advance so everything goes off without a hitch on that day.
There's a saying, the way to a man's heart is through his stomach, it definitely works on cats as well =)
I'm easy though, you don't need to cook, you just need to get me nice food.
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Only a half hour left!
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I had long hair and a Telecaster with tropical fruit painted all over it.
That was enough to impress my wife.
The nineties were a different time.
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I've worked as an independent contractor before. That is pretty standard for how independent contractors are treated across the board, in my experience and that of those I have talked to. Uber is just being held to the same standard as everyone else.... spoiler for the dude that forgot what’s going on with Uber?While European courts have a spine and so have seen fit to apply the same worker-protection laws to Uber that it applies to other taxi services, U.S. courts have bought into Uber's legalistic argument that "Our drivers are independent contractors, see? So we can't be expected to pay them minimum wage, provide them benefits, allow them the freedom to unionize, or even promise not to fire them for our own faulty technology, see?"
Yeah, I could go on, and on, and on.
I like Shiro's solution: "If you provide at least half of the total work hours for an individual for 6 months (or heck, even for the tax year), then they are your employee, not your contractor."
I saw the same BS when I was a teacher: The union had clearly-defined terms as to when teachers would receive benefits, so the schools cheerfully hired teachers for *exactly* one hour per week less. The union said, "OK, no more than 20% of the work force can be temporary employees," and the school said, "What about emergencies?", so the union relented, and the school voted EVERY year an emergency. And so on, and so on, and so on.
The lengths to which corporations and administrations stretch to avoid giving benefits to the people they employ is sickening.
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Whingy Wizard's argumentative nature clarified!
Warning: swears. Otherwise, he has funny videos.
EDIT: part again!(Specifically starting near 3:25)
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Hmm, can't find the place for Spirit, Riding Free.
A toy horse, in case that wasn't obvious.
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If I can't find where it goes in the next ten minutes, then it wasn't meant to be.
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Gotta love the people that drive up five minutes after you close, look at the schedule showing the store closes at nine and still get out and try knocking on the window.
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Yeah sorry, I have to second Terrinam here, and extremely strongly.
Politics, in my not-so-humble-on-this-topic opinion, is a PRIVATE. PERSONAL. MATTER. How I vote, IF I vote, and who I vote for if anyone are none of anyone else's business if I do not wish to discuss it with them. End of line.
And a LOT of politically-minded people do not like that. I'm hoping that's not the case here.
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Gotta love the people that drive up five minutes after you close, look at the schedule showing the store closes at nine and still get out and try knocking on the window.
My favorites are the ones who show up an hour before you open, see you in the store obviously putting stuff away, sweeping floors, and otherwise doing all the stuff that has to get done before the store can open, and then bang on the window to get let in, then get angry at you for not opening early just for them, and then storm off, never to return.
People don't like store hours.
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And as I sit here, watching 4 of my 6 players do level-ups after I gave them TWO WEEKS to do it, I'm at the point where if my players don't have their leveled-up, loot-distributed character sheets in-hand the moment I start the session then there's no session that day.
Getting soooooooooo tired of the repeat offenders.
(And yes, in case you're wondering, Whingey Wizard is indeed one of them, but at least he has kids, a dojo, and a job in SoCal. The Serpent's Skull group has been on break for 5 full days now with nothing to do, and only 2 of the 6 did it. And NOT MY TWO!!!!)
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Gotta love the people that drive up five minutes after you close, look at the schedule showing the store closes at nine and still get out and try knocking on the window.My favorites are the ones who show up an hour before you open, see you in the store obviously putting stuff away, sweeping floors, and otherwise doing all the stuff that has to get done before the store can open, and then bang on the window to get let in, then get angry at you for not opening early just for them, and then storm off, never to return.
People don't like store hours.
My more generous side wants to assume that they're just so used to the ubiquity of 24-hour businesses nowadays that they don't realize some shops aren't open at stupid-o'-clock.
Then my realistic side kicks in and reminds me that a lot of people are just stupid and/or jerks.
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Gotta love the people that drive up five minutes after you close, look at the schedule showing the store closes at nine and still get out and try knocking on the window.My favorites are the ones who show up an hour before you open, see you in the store obviously putting stuff away, sweeping floors, and otherwise doing all the stuff that has to get done before the store can open, and then bang on the window to get let in, then get angry at you for not opening early just for them, and then storm off, never to return.
People don't like store hours.
My more generous side wants to assume that they're just so used to the ubiquity of 24-hour businesses nowadays that they don't realize some shops aren't open at stupid-o'-clock.
Then my realistic side kicks in and reminds me that a lot of people are just stupid and/or jerks.
If you've never done it, work retail for 6 months. Your disdain for humanity will grow exponentially.
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And as I sit here, watching 4 of my 6 players do level-ups after I gave them TWO WEEKS to do it, I'm at the point where if my players don't have their leveled-up, loot-distributed character sheets in-hand the moment I start the session then there's no session that day.
Getting soooooooooo tired of the repeat offenders.
(And yes, in case you're wondering, Whingey Wizard is indeed one of them, but at least he has kids, a dojo, and a job in SoCal. The Serpent's Skull group has been on break for 5 full days now with nothing to do, and only 2 of the 6 did it. And NOT MY TWO!!!!)
I know this pain, at least to some degree. I've had players who were notoriously bad at doing anything out-of-game, and thus would leave any sort of paperwork to be done at the beginning of the next session, thus necessitating a delay while they worked.
At least one of them was incredibly bad at doing any of the math involved with his character as well, so add that to the mix.
Thankfully when it happens nowadays, it's exclusively limited to the couple with two kids and two very busy jobs, so it's completely understandable when they miss. And it doesn't happen near as close to "every time" as it did with the former guys (who are no longer in the group).
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Gotta love the people that drive up five minutes after you close, look at the schedule showing the store closes at nine and still get out and try knocking on the window.My favorites are the ones who show up an hour before you open, see you in the store obviously putting stuff away, sweeping floors, and otherwise doing all the stuff that has to get done before the store can open, and then bang on the window to get let in, then get angry at you for not opening early just for them, and then storm off, never to return.
People don't like store hours.
My more generous side wants to assume that they're just so used to the ubiquity of 24-hour businesses nowadays that they don't realize some shops aren't open at stupid-o'-clock.
Then my realistic side kicks in and reminds me that a lot of people are just stupid and/or jerks.
If you've never done it, work retail for 6 months. Your disdain for humanity will grow exponentially.
I did a Safeway job for three months. They fired me because I kept calling out for the Sunday shifts they scheduled me, even though when they hired me I told them Sundays I would be out of town all day and thus unavailable, but I wasn't even attending school at the time so the other six days of the week I was totally free.
But nope, kept scheduling me for Sundays, kept calling out, and eventually got "let go" because I "did not measure up to their standards".
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@Terrinam, fair enough, you were there I wasn't.
And I know that they're often treated differently than the brick-and-mortar taxi drivers, who often have those freedoms, rights, and protections. Because Uber has some high-powered lawyers, and gets to make its purely legalese case in an era when many activist judges are ideologically opposed to workers' rights.
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And as I sit here, watching 4 of my 6 players do level-ups after I gave them TWO WEEKS to do it, I'm at the point where if my players don't have their leveled-up, loot-distributed character sheets in-hand the moment I start the session then there's no session that day.
Getting soooooooooo tired of the repeat offenders.
(And yes, in case you're wondering, Whingey Wizard is indeed one of them, but at least he has kids, a dojo, and a job in SoCal. The Serpent's Skull group has been on break for 5 full days now with nothing to do, and only 2 of the 6 did it. And NOT MY TWO!!!!)
I hear you on this one. And when they take ages to do their character sheets, and I use their previous ones for skill checks, they complain. And ask why I didn't check with them. Well - it wasn't on your sheet and I already said I wanted to keep the game moving, so what can I say?
What I do actually is tell my players you're going to level up like 2-3 days in advance and tell them to prepare their new character sheets. Then pop the ding sound in gameplay/discussion when it happens.
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If the law allows them to get away with it, you can't do anything but boycott them and tell all those people you know to do so. Maybe perhaps get permits from the local authorities to do a protest march in the streets as well.
On the other hand, my dad who is a part time grab hitch driver is happy with the goodies grab has been handing out to him, as well as the opportunity to make a couple more bucks, on top of his day job.
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Whingy Wizard's argumentative nature clarified!
Warning: swears. Otherwise, he has funny videos.
EDIT: part again!(Specifically starting near 3:25)
That first one is just SOOOOO terrifyingly accurate it's not even funny. It's like you've sat at the table with him!
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I would love to watch except I'm on phone... And when I'm at home I'm playing path of exile.
And ouch gran! If I'm fiddling with a phone during games it's because my character sheet is on my phone. No kidding, because I realized I couldn't read my own handwriting ^^
So now it's all digitalized.
As GM I think you need to have a good chat with your group, and I hate to have these kind of discussions.
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Forgot - we had a couple of chaps who do East Asian martial arts turn up to HEMA on Monday, which was interesting. They gave us some pukka gen on spear techniques - certainly made more sense than what we were doing, which was trying to use them like poleaxes or just flailing about - and also brought in two little falchion/cutlass type things with long grips (dao?). Those were particularly hard (for us) to use effectively.
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Oh that's cool! I think you jab with spears but I've never been any use with long weapons. I just trip over them or don't know what to do with it being too long. I think if I were really to learn how to use something I'd better stick with daggers, though I'd probably choose to learn unarmed combat. I mean people can stop you from bringing weapons but they can't stop you from going around with your hands and legs, right?
Dao...eh did a couple of drills in college. I'm rather clumsy and slow at picking up anything physical so yeah I'd rather not talk about it. That's also the reason why I don't dance.
And also I'm rather inflexible. Bending down and touching my toes without bending my knees is a sometimes thing and don't even talk about doing splits.
Edit:Oh I managed to bend down and touch my toes without bending my knees!
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OK gran yeah I wanted to say that maybe Iron Gods wasn't the best for your group - the later published APs are harder then the earlier ones on the reason that more splat books have been published so the devs have more material to create encounters out off. Power creep, I'd say.
Of course all APs have their WTF moments. Like I am not talking about that bridge incident, but some APs are harder then others.
So if you get a group that's around to relax and chill and not much into optimization maybe some of the older APs like jade reagent, ROTR may be a better fit.
Also yeah sorry for so late reply, a busy day at work. And it'll probably be another busy one tomorrow.
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Giantslayer also isn't easy. Sorry for mixing APs up.
Someone told me about shadow rats at level 1 or 2?
I was wondering about why they brought their baby to gaming but since you're playing in their house it all makes sense. Personally I don't think I'd game with a baby, but that's me.
In your last few campaigns(ROTR, shattered star) were they in party?
And oh did I tell you one of my players said this,
"I think you can see where I'm going with that. I hold no grudge against you, but I definitely am not playing with someone who feels comfortable talking about me (and others) that way when my back is effectively turned. Consider it a learning experience, or whatever. Ciao."
He was referring to FAWTL.
Hell, we even had a mod pop into the thread after we vacated it ^^
I guess that's a score for really having the world's biggest squabble.
*cynical laugh*