Handling Mythic Characters with the Leadership Feat


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What's your approach? Does mythic status change your character's leadership score greatly, moderately, or not at all?

I've been handling it by giving characters a +2 to their leadership score for every mythic tier they possess. Does that seem too much or not enough?


That seems really strong to just get, considering the mythic feat for it only gives you your tier as an extra bonus iirc. A few other things too, but that's practically a full free feat.

I see no reason mythic tiers should affect the leadership score by themselves. Plenty of ways to increase it, and with a feat that adds your tier already, doesn't seem like it needs too much.


It shouldn't. There's Mythic Leadership Feat already, which basically does what you describe.


I think I'm going to be eating crow here but... There is a Mythic Leadership feat??? I borrowed my buddies Mythic Adventures book to design a powerful mythic NPC a few days ago- gave the book back- decided to give the NPC the Leadership Feat, so I called my friend and asked him what it said about mythic leadership and he told me there's nothing in the book...

Well anyways... thanks for letting me know. I'll have to borrow the book from him again, right after I hit him over the head with it! :)


Mythic Leadership is a 3rd party design, hence why there's some confusion and why it's not in mythic adventures. On the SRD, 1st and 3rd party mythic feats are listed together, which is probably the reason for some of the confusion.


Stark_ wrote:
Mythic Leadership is a 3rd party design, hence why there's some confusion and why it's not in mythic adventures. On the SRD, 1st and 3rd party mythic feats are listed together, which is probably the reason for some of the confusion.

Thanks Stark... You prevented an innocent man from getting hit over the head.


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Blarg. That f!+@ing "The Missing Core feats" book is starting to get on my nerves. I think the SRD people got it confused with a 1st party book.


What is 'SRD"? (I'm a newb.)


Here.

It has the content from most of the books, barring setting specific stuff.


Rynjin wrote:

Here.

It has the content from most of the books, barring setting specific stuff.

Holy hell...Thanks for letting me know about that site man! I'm going to be up all night checking that stuff out!


Joe Hex wrote:
Rynjin wrote:

Here.

It has the content from most of the books, barring setting specific stuff.

Holy hell...Thanks for letting me know about that site man! I'm going to be up all night checking that stuff out!

BTW... How does a site like that not piss off the publishers to no end? It's their content for free?


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Much of Pathfinder's rules stuff is OGL (Open Game License).

They make most of their money off of things like Adventure Paths and setting books (detailing bits about Golarion history, places, etc.), and these things are NOT OGL.

So when playing Pathfinder you can essentially get all the rules for free, both from Paizo and many 3rd party publishers, but must purchase APs and whatnot.

Paizo' Official PRD also exists, so it's not like the SRD is doing anything Paizo aren't already doing themselves (I find the SRD easier to navigate, however, and it contains 3rd Party material I use which the PRD has none of. Namely, Dreamscarred Press' excellent Psionics stuff).


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And Paizo's PRD which has all of the core rulebook stuff, including Mythic.

I normally use that and the Archives of Nethys if I want to make sure I'm using something Paizo published.

Plus the d20SRD had to change all of the Golarion specific names of feats and requirements because it is a webstore too, so no longer falls under the fan site part of the Pathfinder-OGL.


Seriously, thanks again you all for letting me know about this!


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chavamana wrote:

And Paizo's PRD which has all of the core rulebook stuff, including Mythic.

I normally use that and the Archives of Nethys if I want to make sure I'm using something Paizo published.

Plus the d20SRD had to change all of the Golarion specific names of feats and requirements because it is a webstore too, so no longer falls under the fan site part of the Pathfinder-OGL.

Please -- it's d20pfsrd, not d20srd. d20srd.org is a site that has the SRD for D&D 3.5, not for Pathfinder.


I found the 3rd party Mythic Leadership feat and it's been useful.

But now I have a question about both the standard Leadership feat and the mythic... I know a cohort can be a PC class, but are "followers" always the non player NPC classes (adept, expert and the like)?


The text of leadership is

Leadership wrote:
A cohort is generally an NPC with class levels, while followers are typically lower level NPCs.

So as written it's wildly open to whatever the DM decides, as NPC includes almost everything. For instance, the Balor Commoner 1 is a level 1 NPC. I swear there was advice somewhere to count Adepts as one level higher for followers and PC classes as two levels higher, but I don't remember where from (and it's almost certainly 3.5, not Pathfinder).

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