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http://vimeo.com/7132858

My friend brought this proof-of-concept D&D program intended to be run using Microsoft's Surface technology to my attention.

Is anyone at Paizo aware of this? looking at the demo, it looks like it's been made to be compatible with 4E... Any plans to make a PRPG version of this???

O_O


That is freaking awesome.

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Purple Dragon Knight wrote:

http://vimeo.com/7132858

My friend brought this proof-of-concept D&D program intended to be run using Microsoft's Surface technology to my attention.

Is anyone at Paizo aware of this? looking at the demo, it looks like it's been made to be compatible with 4E... Any plans to make a PRPG version of this???

O_O

Ooh! And a Microsoft Surface is only $12,500!

Without the software.

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Vic Wertz wrote:
Ooh! And a Microsoft Surface is only $12,500!

Wait two years.

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$12.5K?!?! LOL! Another one of Bill Gates' tax shields then? :P

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Purple Dragon Knight wrote:
$12.5K?!?! LOL! Another one of Bill Gates' tax shields then? :P

It's essentially a public prototype right now, not being mass produced and therefore Not Cheap (TM).

And Bill isn't really affiliated with MS anymore. :P


Plasma TVs debuted at $10k+. A year and a half later they were down to $1k. I doubt Microsoft Surface will fall that fast, since it's a proprietary system and thus there's less market competition, but the price will fall nonetheless.


It's very pretty, if you don't mind one encounter taking ALL NIGHT. Sheesh.

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tejón wrote:
Wait two years.

More like 22 years, it's been in development since 1982 (yes 27 years.)

It won't be cheap for another 8+ years (since the first release was in 2008.)

Joana wrote:
It's very pretty, if you don't mind one encounter taking ALL NIGHT. Sheesh.

Yea, I watched the demo a couple days ago. It is a 4E based system right now. I don't think this will ever be valid for a 3.5 game, because the rules in 3.5 games tend to have a lot of corner cases (more than 4E MMO style games.) I couldn't imagine any way to make software that could accurately handle any of the characters I've ever created for 3.5/3.p games.

Just look at the fact there isn't a single character sheet tool that I've found (and I've used them all) that can accurately create my characters. I use Openoffice because it just becomes a glorified paper sheet then.


Vic Wertz wrote:
And a Microsoft Surface is only $12,500!

Could be worse.

It could be an iSurface. That would cost around 30 grand. But it would feature snotty ads about people who tell you how they're better than you for having an iSurface, so it's justified :D


Joana wrote:
It's very pretty, if you don't mind one encounter taking ALL NIGHT. Sheesh.

Virtual dice are a big no for me, whether they take forever to roll or not.

Plus, I didn't get hundreds of actual dice to use fake ones.

Does that surface thingy have image recognition? Read the die's bottom and count it as the opposite (i.e surface sees a 7 and knows you rolled a 14).


James Risner wrote:
tejón wrote:
Wait two years.

More like 22 years, it's been in development since 1982 (yes 27 years.)

It won't be cheap for another 8+ years (since the first release was in 2008.)

Joana wrote:
It's very pretty, if you don't mind one encounter taking ALL NIGHT. Sheesh.

Yea, I watched the demo a couple days ago. It is a 4E based system right now. I don't think this will ever be valid for a 3.5 game, because the rules in 3.5 games tend to have a lot of corner cases (more than 4E MMO style games.) I couldn't imagine any way to make software that could accurately handle any of the characters I've ever created for 3.5/3.p games.

Just look at the fact there isn't a single character sheet tool that I've found (and I've used them all) that can accurately create my characters. I use Openoffice because it just becomes a glorified paper sheet then.

The thing can still work for Pathfinder.


Purple Dragon Knight wrote:

http://vimeo.com/7132858

My friend brought this proof-of-concept D&D program intended to be run using Microsoft's Surface technology to my attention.

Is anyone at Paizo aware of this? looking at the demo, it looks like it's been made to be compatible with 4E... Any plans to make a PRPG version of this???

O_O

Want!!!!!


Purple Dragon Knight wrote:

http://vimeo.com/7132858

My friend brought this proof-of-concept D&D program intended to be run using Microsoft's Surface technology to my attention.

Is anyone at Paizo aware of this? looking at the demo, it looks like it's been made to be compatible with 4E... Any plans to make a PRPG version of this???

O_O

D&D can't even get their own online gaming table to work. What in the world makes anyone think they will be using this thing anytime soon. I'm wiliing to bet the finalized product never sees the light of day (in terms of mass production).


KaeYoss wrote:
Joana wrote:
It's very pretty, if you don't mind one encounter taking ALL NIGHT. Sheesh.

Virtual dice are a big no for me, whether they take forever to roll or not.

Plus, I didn't get hundreds of actual dice to use fake ones.

Does that surface thingy have image recognition? Read the die's bottom and count it as the opposite (i.e surface sees a 7 and knows you rolled a 14).

I agree about the dice. Virtual rolling... feh. But imagine recognition on the opposite side. Great idea. :)


The Jade wrote:
I agree about the dice. Virtual rolling... feh. But imagine recognition on the opposite side. Great idea. :)

... until someone brings Q-Workshop dice to the table. Those are hard to read for some, I imagine an image recognition program might habe problems with them too.


Franz Lunzer wrote:
The Jade wrote:
I agree about the dice. Virtual rolling... feh. But imagine recognition on the opposite side. Great idea. :)
... until someone brings Q-Workshop dice to the table. Those are hard to read for some, I imagine an image recognition program might habe problems with them too.

Good point, but if this whole reinvention of the game thing took off in the future (echo effect on the word future) I'm sure they'd start coding their dice somehow. No one wants to miss the money boat.

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KaeYoss wrote:


Does that surface thingy have image recognition? Read the die's bottom and count it as the opposite (i.e surface sees a 7 and knows you rolled a 14).

That would be brilliant.

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Deyvantius wrote:
D&D can't even get their own online gaming table to work. What in the world makes anyone think they will be using this thing anytime soon. I'm wiliing to bet the finalized product never sees the light of day (in terms of mass production).

Despite doing everything they could to make 4E easy to "computerize", they still never managed to eliminate the hundreds of decisions a DM makes. I doubt we will every have a fully automated D&D game anytime soon. At least not until the computer can be the DM.

KaeYoss wrote:
Does that surface thingy have image recognition? Read the die's bottom and count it as the opposite (i.e surface sees a 7 and knows you rolled a 14).

You rolled virtual dice, it didn't read objects placed on the screen.


James Risner wrote:

automated D&D game anytime soon. At least not until the computer can be the DM.

KaeYoss wrote:
Does that surface thingy have image recognition? Read the die's bottom and count it as the opposite (i.e surface sees a 7 and knows you rolled a 14).
You rolled virtual dice, it didn't read objects placed on the screen.

Hi James, Kae got that... he was just wondering if the technology might be used to recognize images in a soft scan so that it could read the side of dice facing down, then a program could know what the face up side would be. This, in the name of allowing a person to keep on rolling real dice, even in a semi-virtual environment.


James Risner wrote:


Despite doing everything they could to make 4E easy to "computerize", they still never managed to eliminate the hundreds of decisions a DM makes. I doubt we will every have a fully automated D&D game anytime soon. At least not until the computer can be the DM.

I guess you haven't seen the new DMatron Android 9000 from Sharper Image? Does fiddy hundred calculations a second and cooks tasty snacks in its head for the table.

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The Jade wrote:
I guess you haven't seen the new DMatron Android 9000 from Sharper Image? Does fiddy hundred calculations a second and cooks tasty snacks in its head for the table.

I SO want me one of those...


James Risner wrote:
The Jade wrote:
I guess you haven't seen the new DMatron Android 9000 from Sharper Image? Does fiddy hundred calculations a second and cooks tasty snacks in its head for the table.
I SO want me one of those...

Right there with ya.

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