I have a situation in my game which I was curious how others would rule on this. I have a player character that was hit with a Prismatic Spray (violet) and sent to another plane. I had not yet rolled or chosen which plane of existence he was on when it returned to his turn. At which point he announced that he was going to cast the spell, “Banishment” on himself. There by sending himself back to his home plane of existence.
My first instinct was to say no way, but he made a few good arguments.
1. I wasn’t sure he could target himself with this spell or with dismissal? The spell reads Target - One or more extraplanar creatures – which he stated that he was now currently one – being on a different plane.
2. If he could target himself would it “banish” him from the current plane he was on to his home plane?
3. Or would it default to Dismissal and have a 20% chance of ending up on a different plane? (which then we rolled a 13%) He then argued that “Banishment” spell was a more powerful version of Dismissal and didn’t have the 20% mischance listed and therefore shouldn’t be accounted for.
Any one else have thoughts on this situation?
1) Yes, he is an extraplanar creature on any plane he is not a native of, and therefore, would be a legal target of the spell.
2) Yes
3) Toss up. From the wording of banishment, I'm inclined to say no, theres no miss chance, but, I can see the arguement for it still being there. Ultimately...how much do you, as the DM, want to screw with the player in this situation. If theres no point, then let it slide...forget the miss chance, send him to his home plane...and note that nothing says it sends him to where he was on his home plane...just that he gets there.
Oh...and technically, this is a rules question, not a conversion =)
I've got to disagree with most of that.
1. I wasn’t sure he could target himself with this spell or with dismissal? The spell reads Target - One or more extraplanar creatures – which he stated that he was now currently one – being on a different plane.
2. If he could target himself would it “banish” him from the current plane he was on to his home plane?
3. Or would it default to Dismissal and have a 20% chance of ending up on a different plane? (which then we rolled a 13%) He then argued that “Banishment” spell was a more powerful version of Dismissal and didn’t have the 20% mischance listed and therefore shouldn’t be accounted for.
1) Yes, he is extraplanar.
2) No, I don't think he can banish himself. The spell "enables you to force extraplanar creatures out of your home plane." Whether that is just flavor text or not is questionable. Given the extra items you can present to make the save harder, I don't think so.3) Regardless of #2, nothing in the spell indicates it would not operate with the 20% "miss" of Dismissal. It is more powerful than Dismissal in that it can Banish more than one creature.
All that said - if you don't have a good adventure for an extraplanar journey, it's inventive enough to let it work once. Still +hassle getting back to the right location.
Banishment specifically states that it allows you banish creatures from your home plane. If he isn't on his home plane, it shouldn't have an effect on him to try to banish himself. We'll let the local god of knowledge confirm this, but that's what I read based on the text for the banishment spell from the PRD.
Edit: Ninja'd by Majuba!
