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In the Ultimate Equipment guide you have a description for STONEPLATE but it isn't listed in the ARMOR AND SHIELDS chart above

Armor <== here

Also while browsing in the Ultimate Equipment pages on the left side navigation table where the various books are listed there is a link at the bottom that should take you to the Ultimate Equipment guide for purchase but takes you instead to the Ultimate Combat guide instead.

It says specifically "Purchase the Pathfinder Core Rulebook or Ultimate Equipment."
i.e. replace http://paizo.com/products/btpy8mcz with http://paizo.com/products/btpy8tmc

To find it you actually have to select one of the sub categories/chapters inside the Ultimate Equipment guide listing.

I probbaly already know the answer to this but to to be absolutely clear (& pedantic) does the *story feat* count against your total number of feats alloted to one character? It is not a free/extra feat?

As listed in the story feats section of the Ultimate Campaign rulesbook (2nd paragraph 4th sentence):
"Anytime you gain a new feat, you may take a story feat,.."

Though one could argue that it is redundant, since it is already a feat, I would almost like the word *instead* included at the end of that fragment. Or something that describes that it _does_ count against your total limit of feats.

Shivok wrote:

Its an eastern weapon so it is exotic to those not of the dragon kingdoms (ie Tian )

Where did you find that rule?

I think he is going by definition of the word "exotic"

The major difference is the elven curveblade can be finessed, the nodachi cannot.

Doh didn't see that =+)

I was mostly basing it on it on the damage vs critcal stuff because it takes a proficiency to gain Dwarven Axes

and bastard sword even two handed can only go from 19-20x2 critical

I would say setting a sword for charge and gaining en xtra damage type be considred for exotic training but the finesse thing DOES make a really big difference...I will go with that

I "sit" sufficiently corrected

The Elven Curved Blade is considered an Exotic Weapon in the Pathfinder Core Rulebook

with the following stats (page 143)
1d10 Medium damage, 18-20x2 critical, does only slashing damage and costs 80gp

In the Ultimate Core Rulebook there is a non Exotic Weapon called the Nodachi with the following stats (Page 131)
1d10 Medium damage, 18-20x2 critical, does slashing or piercing damage and can be used to brace and cost 60 gp the only thing against it is that it weighs 1 lb. more than the Elven Curved Blade

A) I really think it should be designated as an exotic weapon
B) and possibly cost more than the Elven Curved blade?

I made an accidental purchase

please cancel the 2nd ongoing subscription

I thougth I was ordering the Bestiary 2

Your run of the mill adventurer fair they'll be able to handle pretty well with their massive healing power. But such a rare group won't likely be doing those will they? The powers that be will snag that holy power group up and send them on important holy missions, ya know, close the rift to the Abyss in the north, hunt down and destroy the balor in the south, sent on a mission to negotiate with a good outsider...

Devils' advocate time:

Cleric casts shield other at 130 feet (with Metamagic Enlarge) on the fighter =>the rogue uses Use Magic Device with a scroll (Metmagic Enlarge: scribed by cleric) and casts it on the Cleric and the sorcerer doing the same who has a Shield Guardian (specialty golem pg. 158 Pathfinder Bestiary) which casts the same within 100 feet and defending the sorcerer (don't forget most AE spells are subject to Spell Resistance which means the golem is most likely immune to those).

Truth is my level 16 Fighter had headband of intellect with the Use magic Device skill on it and we had two fighters in the group for a large party.

This biggest arguments against this which was "if it's good for the goose it's good for the gander".... We elected to disallow chaining like that since the DM would then present us with a host of 10000 hp mobs ;)

Scenario 1
A moderately high level group entirely made out of 1 Paladin and 3 Clerics decides to send the toughest of them (the paladin) to take on a clan of trolls. Before going too far in the troll lair Cleric A casts shield other on the paladin and cleric B casts shield other on cleric A and cleric C casts shield other on Cleric B.

Paladin(50%) <<Cleric A(25%)<<Cleric B(12.5%)<<Cleric C(6.25%)

In the description of the spell it specifically says hit point damage so whatever damage is take by the paladin half of it gets transfereed to cleric A and half of that hit point damage gets transfered to cleric B and so on.

As well during combat the clerics heal each other to keep themselves from dying especially cleric A who is taking the brunt of the damage even though it is only 25% of the damage.

Scenario 2
All three cleric cast shield other on the paladin directly.
How much damage would the paladin take?

Does anyone think the spell needs some revising?

Aside: In scenario 2 I don't think the deflection bonus would stack
Do the Resistance (untyped) bonuses provided by the shield other stack?