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Perfect, thanks!


Hello all,

I'm a longtime PF player who is only just now signing up for the Society, in order to get the most of my visit to PaizoCon. In the Society rules, I note that one may only incorporate character options from books that they bring with them to the table. This makes sense for local games, but I have a long flight to get to Seattle, so I'm wondering how necessary it will be for PaizoCon.

For example, if I want to use a rule from Horror Adventures, do I need to the hardcover with me at all times? Or would it be sufficient to use the online srd, or a PF rules app? If I need to provide proof that I've purchased a book, I can show the copy in my account's downloads.

I get the impression that this won't be a big deal, but I also don't want to fly 5,000 km only to find myself banished from the tables! Thanks.


Chernasardo Rangers:
Around the same time that Phaendar fell, the Chernasardo Rangers were losing their three strongholds. So the PCs could be refugees from the north -- either neophyte rangers themselves ("first day on the job, and everything goes to s**t"), or else travelers whom the rangers had given sanctuary.

You may need to be selective about what info they have, so as not to spoil any of the surprises in Book 2. On the other hand, there is a hook lacking at the beginning of the Book 2 (getting the PCs to Fort Ristin), so maybe a PCs' backstory can be useful in this regard?


doomman47 wrote:
that would also be good, i've seen games work well with just having 4 stats

Or three? Body, Mind, Soul?

I know I'm way off base from anything that will ever make it into PF, but it seems so much more elegant, especially from a new player's perspective, than "Strength... Dexterity... Con...something? And some other ones?"

Retool the skill list to provide a few more combat-relevant entries, and you could design a very cool interlocking bonus system:

The barbarian strikes with Body+Intimidate...
The rogue attacks with Body+Stealth...
The illusionist uses Mind+Bluff to confuse her opponents...

And so on.


gustavo iglesias wrote:

Same reason why Sorcerer has charisma as main stat. It means force of personality, and that's how you connect with magic at the most basic, intuitive level.

But doesn't "intuitive" imply Wisdom, not Charisma? From the CRB: "Wisdom describes a character’s willpower, common sense, awareness, and intuition."


Can anyone explain why Use Magic Device is a Charisma-based skill?

I'm all for a more balanced application of the base ability scores, and I agree that Charisma could use some love. But I'm hesitant about tying magic item use more closely to Charisma because the connection isn't intuitive to start with.

Maybe, if all magic items in Pathfinder were intelligent and had personalities, it would make more sense. "C'mon, wand, heal me. Pretty please?"


The Inquisitor archetype "Living Grimoire" from Horror Adventures says the following:

"A living grimoire must prepare his spells ahead of time, and can know any number of inquisitor spells. He uses Intelligence instead of Wisdom as his key spellcasting ability score (to determine his spell DCs, bonus spells per day, modifier on concentration checks, and so on), and to determine the effects and number of uses of his domain powers."

I'm stuck on the "and so on" part. For instance, if I choose the Magic domain, the Hand of the Acolyte ability reads:

"You can cause your melee weapon to fly from your grasp and strike a foe before instantly returning. As a standard action, you can make a single attack using a melee weapon at a range of 30 feet. This attack is treated as a ranged attack with a thrown weapon, except that you add your Wisdom modifier to the attack roll instead of your Dexterity modifier (damage still relies on Strength). This ability cannot be used to perform a combat maneuver. You can use this ability a number of times per day equal to 3 + your Wisdom modifier."

Would a Living Grimoire inquisitor add her Intelligence modifier instead of her Wisdom modifier (instead of her Dexterity modifier) to her attack roll?


The wording in the AP might be vague on this point, but I thought the hobgoblin emissary wasn't supposed to arrive until after the PCs had explored the troglodyte caves. Perhaps your GM decided to alter the order of events without thinking through the consequences it might have for your party.

You certainly did nothing wrong. You can keep searching for a place to settle your refugees -- if your GM knows their business, they can find ways to help with this -- or else you can take the fight directly to the hobgoblins.

(Maybe that emissary left a trail behind that one of your PCs can track? Surely that's not unlawful!)


Thanks for laying all that out, Thune. It's very clear.

I wasn't thinking of Spell Combat, though. What I'd imagined would look something like this:

Declare Spellstrike
Make free melee attack at full BAB against Target A while casting Blade Lash
Use Blade Lash to trip Target B at +10
End Round

If a GM accepted that action (based on the fact that Blade Lash has a range of touch, and should therefore be Spellstrikeable), then a player could incorporate that sequence of actions INTO a Spell Combat attack, thereby getting to cast another spell in the bargain.

But...as I'm explaining it all, I can imagine how I'd respond as a GM if a player tried that out on me. I don't think I'd buy it.


The Sideromancer wrote:

full text for reference

I would say it doesn't work with Spellstrike, since it has a target line of "your melee weapon"

Maybe, but as written the Magus's spellstrike ability includes any spell "with a range of 'touch' from the magus spell list."

Not trying to be pedantic. I've always had trouble distinguishing which spells are fair game for this ability.


Hello!

Blade Lash, from the Advanced Class Guide, works as follows:

Quote:
Your weapon elongates and becomes whip-like. As part of casting this spell, you can use this weapon to attempt a trip combat maneuver against one creature within 20 feet, and you gain a +10 bonus on your roll, after which the weapon returns to its previous form.

Since the spell has a range of "touch," it would seem to qualify for the magus's spellstrike ability.

Can a magus make a melee attack against Target A using spellstrike, then redirect the trip attempt against Target B 20 feet away?\

Or should the trip attempt only be directed against Target A, since that's the target you've just hit?

Or should Blade Lash not function as a spellstrike spell at all, since the range of "touch" technically means you're touching your weapon, and not a target?


Maybe, since it is the middle of the Market Festival, demand has increased and Oreld's supplies have been somewhat depleted?

If you'd rather stock the shop up to the rafters, go for it. The PCs will still be limited in what they can carry, especially if they want to move swiftly.


Hello all,

What are your favourite fey creatures from Pathfinder's many sources?

Which ones do you think don't get used often enough by GMs, or tend to get used beneath their full potential (for example, a creature with plenty of RP or story-hook potential that, in your experience, tends to end up getting used for target practice)?

Thanks!


I have no source to back this up, but I vaguely remember reading (in 1st Edition D&D material) that the name implied a lich who had ascended to demigod status -- thus "demi[god] + lich."

But I also remember thinking, even as a kid, that it didn't make sense to use the prefix that way. The "half-lich" explanation is better.


I can't open the first link, but the others are fun.

This is a great idea, and helpful for building beyond the sidebar in "Trail of the Hunted" which lists hobgoblin hues and facial features. Thanks!


Haha, I replaced the mites in Kingmaker too, now that I think of it.


taks wrote:
I won't start this till mid-January at the earliest, so I can't comment. Why don't you like the mites? Just curious.

I guess it's their unimaginative brand of cruelty. The Bestiary description calls them "pitiful and craven," and says even goblins make fun of them. So they get bullied a lot and then take it out on weaker creatures. The psychological realism of that motive is precisely why I find it so dull.

The fey appeal to me because their cruelty is inscrutable. Mites seem like fey wannabes: they can see the other fey having fun, but they're not in on the joke and it drives them nuts.

Hmm...now that I put it that way, I could see a few ways in which mites could work in conjunction with other fey. But in this AP, they appear only once, outside their usual environment (underground), and their sole purpose is to torture wolf cubs. Pass.


I am GMing Ironfang -- about 5 sessions in, which puts us halfway through Volume 1. I haven't made too many changes yet, except for shifting encounter locations around in the Fangwood so the refugees don't miss anything fun. But here's a change that paid off for me.

I love fey, and I want to drop some early hints to make Vol. 5's fey-focused plot feel earned. The first fey encounter listed in Vol. 1 is with a group of mites who are tormenting a wolf pack. Well, I love fey... but I can't abide mites. So I combed through the Bestiaries to find a suitable fey to replace them.

I settled on chaneques, from B4. And then their creepy stalking tactics and soul-stealing domination powers suggested a bunch of ways to build up this encounter over several sessions. Here's how it played out for me:

Session 3 (the first session after the PCs' escape from Phaendar) ended with a sort of cut-scene of the druid's animal companion wolf prowling through the woods and encountering another wolf pack. They are about to fight, but then the indigenous wolves panic and flee... not from the animal companion, but rather from a dark shape that swoops out of the trees and lobs a skull at the companion's head. End of session.

(Note: if you want to try something like this but you don't have an animal companion or familiar, just choose an NPC from among the refugees -- someone the PCs have already interacted with, so they know their personality a bit.)

Session 4 started with the wolf returning...changed. The druid found him listless and quiet, but he couldn't articulate what had happened to him (ie. the chaneque's soul-stealing effect). But I let the druid control his wolf as usual, and the chaneques didn't make another appearance until the very end of the session, when another cut-scene revealed they were just outside the camp.

(Another note: Most GMs don't do these sorts of cut-scenes, with information that characters don't have access to. With an inexperienced group, it can easily lead to metagaming. But I trust my group to use it as intended -- building atmosphere and suspense.)

Session 5 In the morning, several NPCs had the same malaise as the wolf, but none of the PCs put two and two together (and the couldn't have diagnosed the problem in any case). After foraging for a day, the camp bedded down again...and that's when all hell broke loose. The wolf and the NPCs who'd been struck the night before all attacked the rest of the camp. The PCs had to incapacitate them while trying to figure out what was controlling them (I let them spot the skulls glowing in the trees). They managed to defeat all the chaneques, and crush the skulls, save for one, which got away. That means one of the NPCs is still lacking a soul, and could go rogue at any time.

I'm looking forward to seeing how the PCs deal with this threat. Eventually, I'll have the chaneque return, so they can crush the skull and liberate the NPC. But it seems like a great way to raise tension and remind the players that the Fangwood is a really dangerous place.

Has anyone else made any substitutions in Vol. 1?


Hobgoblins shun arcane magic, so a skald would be rare. But it sounds like you're going for an outcast (and, presumably, a traitor).

There are a few rage powers that relate to Intimidate, so instead of "Unfit" I'd suggest taking the "Fearsome" alternate racial trait (in Advanced Race Guide), which grants +4 to Intimidate checks. "Authoritative" could work instead if you end up being the face of the party.

You might get more build advice by posting in the Advice thread. Good luck!


Maybe the prologue could feature different characters altogether? They might reappear later as NPCs -- scarred and traumatized survivors of the massacre who can provide the PCs with information -- or they could just be expendable, one-time PCs who are destined to die in a teaser sequence that sets up the stakes for the rest of the campaign.


I ran CotCT in its entirety, and I don't regret the investment of time (2 1/2 years!). But in the final analysis, it is an uneven, even scattered, AP, and I don't think adapting it to PFRPG rules will fix that.

I don't think anyone has talked about Book 5 yet. Along with Book 2, it stood out for me as an atmospheric, well-structured adventure -- but its placement in the AP made it feel like a numbing parade of nearly unbeatable horrors. I believe the phrase is "campaign fatigue"?

So, at the risk of derailing the OP's question, I'd go out on a limb and suggest that Paizo could please a lot of fans by adapting Books 2 and 5 into standalone adventures. This might involve borrowing a bit of introductory material from previous chapters, or crafting a new set of hooks (and outcomes). But the results would be far more flexible, and I suspect they'd reach more players intact.


Like many players, I find Perception overused. As a GM, I find it frustrating because it can so easily make or break an adventure.

If there are clues hidden in a room, then it's a safe assumption that the PCs are meant to find them. Botched Perception checks lead to missed clues, which can lead to a derailed or dull story. I will sometimes fudge events to hand PCs the info they need. (For example, "As you move across the room, Rodgar's boot quite accidentally flips back one corner of the rug, and he notices something beneath it...")

The best use for Perception comes when paired against Stealth, to determine surprise rounds. When I GM, I usually do these sorts of rolls behind the screen -- the app "Pathfinder Toolkit" speeds this process up a bit -- so the players do not have to keep saying "I'm keeping an eye out for trouble." The same applies to traps.


Has anyone tried using Plot Twist Cards as an in-game deck, for gambling or games of chance?

Anyone find any in-game use for other unconventional decks? I know the Harrow deck has some card game rules included, but Harrow doesn't quite suit my homebrew world. Never the less, I'd like something more flavourful than the traditional playing-card deck.

All suggestions are most appreciated!


Thanks, Vic!


No, not the card game. I must have posted to the wrong forum.


Hey all, I'm wondering if anyone can recommend any resources for (a) homebrew monster building and (b) cartography.

I'm specifically looking for published resources, either print or PDF. But a second best would be links to advice on podcasts, blog posts or forum threads.

I've dug around a bit but haven't found much that sparks my imagination yet. What are your favourites?

Thanks!


archmagi1 wrote:
In my gut, I see it more as a function of trying to make the NPC's memorable.

That's an interesting point, Archmagi1, and I believe there's some truth to it, although Paizo's creative team members have also acknowledged they have a progressive social agenda in mind too.

The only problem with the approach you describe is diminishing returns. If every second NPC has a crippling stutter, then that trait fades into the background fairly quickly. So maybe the writers' ultimate goal involves making same-sex relationships seem typical, not "quirky."


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It is fascinating to watch this thread wend its way around the original topic. I think that the tangents have been every bit as revealing as the direct replies.

Although some people might use the term "privilege" as a weapon, it is merely a tool, helping to measure how much we might tend to assume that "labels" (ie. differences of race, class, sex, gender, etc.) matter to us, at the gaming table or beyond.

The OP asked us to think about the composition of our gaming groups. Gamers with non-normative identities -- that is, LGBTQ, people of colour, etc. -- probably think about this issue a LOT. In life, they frequently have their differences used against them, and so when they sit down to have fun at the table, they are likely more sensitive to potential divisions or conflicts.

If you have never thought about these issues -- if, indeed, all gamers are just "people" to you no matter what -- then you are probably not in a position where you have to check in constantly, to see if you are surrounded by males, or straight males, or straight cis males.

In short, you are probably gaming from a position of privilege. It's not an insult; it just means you have now been measured, like everybody else.


Hello! One of my players is building an oracle, and wants to take the "lame" curse. During combat, he wants the character to focus on buffing and healing allies. However, he is concerned that he won't be able to move around the battlefield effectively. There are a few ranged buff spells, but it seems like a lot of divine spells are delivered by touch -- including, of course, all cure spells.

I wonder if there is any way for a divine caster to gain access to spectral hand, or an equivalent, so that he can deliver touch spells from a distance? Any thoughts?

Thanks!


Hi, when you get a chance, I'm curious to find out why Order #2911641 is still pending. It was placed on December 1st.

If there are one or two items in the order that have kept it held back, please let me know and I'll remove them, so the rest of the order can ship. Thanks very much!


Greetings! I'm in the process of collecting published materials that could be incorporated into a pirate-themed campaign. My goal is to make the campaign as pure a sandbox as possible, so I expect I'll need a lot of standalone encounters, but I'm not averse to offering mini storylines too. Only full railroaded APs are off the table.

The campaign will use PF rules, but will adopt an original setting. I figure I can adapt material from Paizo, 3rd party publishers, and potentially even products with non-PFRPG rules.

So far, I've got the following materials, but I'd love to get suggestions for more -- and/or feedback on how well you think these products would fit into a sandbox game.

Levels 1-3
AP 37: Souls for Smuggler's Shiv
(This open-form castaway adventure seems like the best way to start a sandbox campaign with some clear boundaries. I might alter the ending to reward PCs with their own ship.)

Levels 4+
AP 56: Raiders of the Fever Sea (A nice open-form sea-faring structure)
Episodes from Razor Coast and Heart of the Razor
Shadows in Freeport
Possibly encounters from Savage Tide AP?

Thanks!


Thanks, LazarX! I never heard of Continuum before reading your post, so I'm very intrigued to see how they handle it.

I agree with Goth Guru, multiple timelines are a headache, and I could see them leading to a lot of arguing at the table. Since one of the central themes of Allu is "the power to change fate," it makes a lot of sense that the time-stream would respond to changes as you describe.

We want time travel to be an active option for most players in Allu, so it won't just be a single artifact or site. But that raises questions about abuse. If characters have ready access to time travel, would they use it to go back and change every failed saving throw? I'd be curious to hear how other gamers have incorporated it into their games.


Terrific, thanks again!


Hello!

Order #2776488 was delayed due to an expired credit card. It has now been updated. Please send me goodies!!!

Thanks,
Scott Sharplin


Also, I think we've settled on the following "wheel" of elements:

Fire (fire) ->
Metal (electricity) ->
Earth (acid) ->
Aether (sonic) ->
Water (cold) ->
(and back to fire)

We chose "aether" instead of "air" to avoid confusion, since the element of air is normally associated with electrical damage in PFRPG.

I realize there are a hundred other permutations here, but do these pairings at least make sense?


Thanks for your continued input, folks!

In Orion's defense: He's got lots of RPG design experience under his belt, but I'm the PFRPG expert on the team. Right now, he's helping to solicit feedback while I'm lurking in the background, prepping a beta-test adventure.

Endzeitgeist's suggestion re: Concentration makes logical sense. I've never been fond of the rules governing concentration checks in PF, but I agree it's more appropriate for "pushing" elements during spellcasting.

And yeah, randomization is part of the flavor of the campaign setting. The elements are unstable in the world itself, so it's not inconceivable to get, say, a waterspout in a volcano.

To the Players of the World: does the idea of random and/or customizable damage types appeal to you?


Thanks ever so much, James!


Hi! Can anyone tell me if material from Mythic Adventures is (or will be) included in Paizo's OGL?

If one were publishing 3PP material which referred to MA by name or page number, or including new options for mythic tiers and abilities, would that be covered by the OGL or not?

Thanks!


The Shaman wrote:
I am curious, is there a reason you are not using the Kingmaker adventures to plug the gap? It can definitely help them to get more engaged with the area and have more motivation for the last part.

Don't get me wrong, I love Kingmaker -- indeed, have run it before. But we never got as far as Vol.6 with that campaign, so I'm making some changes to facilitate its inclusion in another game. The Greenbelt will be moved to another part of Golarion, where the characters have their hometown.

Also, Kingmaker Vols.1-5 are sandbox adventures, and these players prefer more linear adventures, with specific goals and confined timelines.


Hi, I'm seeking recommendations for material to fill a gap in my Pathfinder campaign. The party will soon be 11th level, and I don't have any firm plans until 15th level, when I plan to adapt the final chapter of the Kingmaker AP into a climactic storyline.

I've already done a lot of work adapting Pathfinder Modules, AP chapters, and Scenarios to suit the campaign. I'm also willing to consider 3rd party materials.

I'm primarily looking for adventures involving intrigue and/or infiltration... but mostly, I'm curious to hear everyone's favourite adventures for this (sometimes somewhat awkward) range of CRs. Thanks!


Hi, I'm seeking recommendations for material to fill a gap in my Pathfinder campaign. The party will soon be 11th level, and I don't have any firm plans until 15th level, when I plan to adapt the final chapter of the Kingmaker AP into a climactic storyline.

I've already done a lot of work adapting Pathfinder Modules, AP chapters, and Scenarios to suit the campaign. Now, I'm looking for adventures involving either intrigue and infiltration, or cosmic, planes-hopping conflict (or both).

But basically, I'm curious to hear everyone's favourite adventures for this (sometimes somewhat awkward) range of CRs. Thanks!


This seems like a cool project. I'm planning a KS project of my own shortly, so I have personal reasons to observe your progress; but more than that, I love a good horror campaign, so I'm excited to see what yours has to offer.

In the website description, you call The Unhallowed a "horror fantasy" setting, and later a "dark, classic fantasy setting." I'm curious to know more, since "horror" can connote a lot of different styles. Are you leaning towards gothic horror (ie. slow, menacing terrors that corrupt the mind and soul), or modern cinematic horror (ie. armies of zombies), or Lovecraftian horror, or something different?

What sorts of horrors lurk in the "otherwise-uninhabited, hostile lands"? That statement sort of implies undead (since, if the horrors were alive, the lands wouldn't be uninhabited), but I'm not sure. Can you flesh this out a bit?


Distant Scholar wrote:

Sorry if this is too harsh, but this sounds horrific to me. What happens to the displaced soul? At best, I'd guess it's the same thing as if they died. If so, the heroes are essentially killing someone else and taking their place. Even if it's not on purpose, and out of the heroes' control entirely ... I wouldn't like it.

Not harsh at all; I'm glad to get your honest feedback!

What if, instead of displacing another person, the heroes' souls merged somehow with them? The process could then be voluntary, although there might be some secondary effects resulting from the combined psyche.

Alternatively, the heroes' souls might transmigrate into a body just as its own soul is departing. That might be a different sort of creepy, though (inhabiting corpses), plus it doesn't address the problem of whatever caused the new body to die in the first place...


Hello! I’m developing a new Pathfinder-compatible campaign setting for third party publishing, and I’m eager to gather feedback and suggestions about some of the world’s foundational elements. The first of my query threads can be found here: http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2q1pn?New-3PP-Campaign-Setting-Questions-Five-E lements

This question concerns reincarnation. In the campaign world I'm designing, all souls transmigrate upon death. Different faiths have varying interpretations of the process -- some believe in karmic forces that affect what you come back as, while others preach that only appeasing the right deities will help you elevate your status.

Most souls are reborn in infant bodies, with only fleeting memories of their former selves. But some souls -- heroes' souls -- can sometimes displace the souls in fully-grown individuals, and retain their skills and memories.

Behind the screen: this significant change exists to give players a means to cheat death, which should hopefully encourage them to take greater risks, and to make heroic sacrifices a part of the narrative.

Questions, then:
1) How, if at all, would this cosmology affect the basic Pathfinder rules for dying and death?

2) Is it appealing to have a character "jump bodies" upon death?

3) How should spells like raise dead and resurrection be handled? What about reincarnation?

I hope these questions make sense; if not, I’m happy to elaborate upon them. Thanks in advance for your input!


Larcifer wrote:
What about using aether as the "5th element"?

Definitely worth considering. It's a variation of "air," but could be associated with organic energy and/or sonic damage. Plus any word starting with "ae" looks great in a fantasy context!

What do you think about Endzeitgeist's suggestion of elements in flux? Imagine that you have a fire-based spellcaster, and you're fighting an ice elemental (cold damage -- your weakness). You could alter your damage type to earth/acid (cold's weakness), which is three steps along the cycle past fire. What sort of cost do you think would be reasonable?


Like others, I'd be keen to hear the results of the survey. And let us know if you plan to post others.


That's a very intriguing idea, Endzeitgeist.

My hope is that whatever changes I make to the magic system could function as an optional template -- something that can be laid overtop of existing PF rules, but removed altogether if the GM prefers to use these campaign materials in a different context.

The elemental flux you describe would fit the bill; races get assigned a starting element, but can then expend points or make checks to alter that element, one stage at a time. Or maybe a spellcaster who needs to throw a lightningball (ie. fireball, but with the damage type shifted to the next element) casts burns a higher spell slot?

It is also a way to distinguish heroes in this world, since the average members of most races won't be able to change their element, even if they could cast spells.

Thanks again for the feedback! I'll be posting some more questions soon; I hope you'll stop by!


Endzeitgeist wrote:
"Source" will, at least in my group, result in endless Highlander: The Source-references and face-palming. Not sure if I'm alone with it, but personally, I'd rename that one.

Thanks for your feedback, Endzeitgeist. It saddens me a bit that such a common word as "Source" can be made bankrupt by a direct-to-DVD sequel. But then, if the alternative is "Force," I guess another franchise has already scooped that. Any other suggestions?

Endzeitgeist wrote:
1) Fire-> Fire, Earth -> Acid, Water -> Cold, Metal -> Electricity, Wood ->...sonic? Not fitting, but there's not another damage type on par with these apart from sonic. Force is too strong when compared to the others. If you go for the Wu Xing, have you checked out Heroes of teh JAde Oath by Rite Publishing?

That's the lineup I figured. Wood/sonic does feel like a stretch, but maybe it's some sort of organic, pulse-of-life, ki-style energy?

Endzeitgeist wrote:
2) Elemental weaknesses can be boring. We've seen the "fire is good versus ice"-angle OFTEN by now. If you go that route, please don't make wood a boring con-bonus etc.

Perhaps, but in the Wu Xing, it is water/cold energy which overcomes fire. When I playtested this campaign setting, it took my players a while to get used to the new system of strengths and weaknesses, but I think they found it a refreshing change from the (Western) norm.

Endzeitgeist wrote:
3) Too limiting. And boring. And redundant. Elemental specialists have their place - but honestly, they're no selling point. At least for me. More so if items and low level spells can make you immunity versus the elemental mage-one-trick-ponies.

Maybe it's just a matter of working an elemental component into the other schools and bloodlines. Any ideas how I might go about making elemental magic more appealing?


Hello! I’m developing a new Pathfinder-compatible campaign setting for third party publishing, and I’m eager to gather feedback and suggestions about some of the world’s foundational elements. I don’t want to reveal too much all at once, so I’m focusing these thread topics on specific, mechanical issues – but I’m happy to discuss other aspects of the setting, if they seem relevant to the discussions.

I’m interested in expanding upon the five-element system outlined in Ultimate Magic. In essence, this campaign world will be Godforged from five essential materials – Fire, Metal, Wood, Earth, and Water – with a sixth material (called Source) combining the five elements into one. Unlike the four-element system, which uses direct oppositions, the five-element system is designed to function as a cycle, with each element dominating the next one in the chain.

Some questions I’d love feedback on:

1) If the five elements were associated with Pathfinder’s energy types, which arrangement would make the most sense?

2) I plan to associate a specific element with each race in the campaign world. For example, dwarves might be earth-dominant, orcs fire-dominant, and so forth. What sorts of attributes (bonuses or weaknesses) do you think could arise from this system?

3) Assuming all spellcasters are aligned with a specific element, they might only be able to deal one specific type of energy damage (like sorcerers with the elemental bloodline). Is it too limiting to impose this system upon ALL casters? What mechanical provisions might help to make this system balanced and workable?

I hope these questions make sense; if not, I’m happy to elaborate upon them. Thanks in advance for your input!


I see, thanks. I suspected it might not be out yet, but I couldn't find a release date on the product page.

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