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We collapse disparate things into categories because it lets us process the universe. As long as we're open...

It is more efficient that way.

Good thing it's quite unlikely to be a simple, or safe, process. You would need a specially-tailored replacement of synapses, I think, in pretty large parts of the brain to even be able to approach what you're talking about. This makes it a matter of hypercomplex nanotech structures - something that's a fair bit away.

More the reason for assimilation....!

It would be nice to see a planetary invasion between worlds in Golarion's solar system...a magic vs. technology war or something.

I guess we should stop pretending and just base a campaign on an alternate Earth by using the same countries. I mean, if it looked like an Egyptian, if it walked like an Egyptian, it is an Egyptian..oh I mean Osirian!

Don't go into Power Dome A wrote:

Still it does seem odd that all of these APs that feature some potentially world/life ending event seem to happen in areas in which the locals don't really give much of a damn about their likely imminent death, never mind celestials and the like.

In real world religions evil forces are always more active than good ones in the world. Good offers a happy afterlife, while evil offers a horrific one. Since the afterlife is not a selling point for the forces of evil, they are tempt and meddle more in the mortal world - satiating vices and people's hunger for power.

That also explain that despite the presence of resurrection and raise dead spells, people coming back from the dead is relatively rare...the good souls do not want to come back from their afterlife rewards, and nobody want to raise an evil character.

You keep bringing up 4E.

Please stop.

Abandon your troll emotions! Can't you see they are the cause of your pain!

The emotional reaction of players attacked by rust monsters too often might be anger, but rust monsters who don't rust your equipment and eat it just seem vaguely annoying. That said, I'm glad that they just damage iron golems in Pathfinder rather than outright destroy them. I could never understand why somebody would spend all that gold on a golem which could be killed in one shot by a low level monster (stone golem seemed like a safer investment)

One can argue that magical metal items are more sturdy from rust (if they rust at all....) than their mundane cousins.

Still....fourth edition rust monsters take the proverbial cake.

Devilkiller's right - paralysis can really be horrifying if you do it right. Combination of helplessness and awareness of your fate.

6 OF 66 OF HEXAMATRIX 666 wrote:

But really, I heard about it and wondering if this was true...

According to The Alexandrian...

I am gagging....are they for real? What were they thinking...!!???

Like Deadman almost said, the angels have other things to do than fight against evil. They keep things running, creating the souls for the babies, etc. Evil outsiders ignore that kind of work as it is much easier to steal the ready product.

Thought it would nice to have stats for stork-angels and other humble folk.

Apparently according to the module Bastion of Broken Souls, angels are not responsible for making souls for babies....

Mosaic wrote:

Maybe all the celestials are busy invading an evil planet somewhere. Planet Evilaron where the Angelwound has opened and celestials are spilling out, filling the peasants' heads with ideas like love and freewill. As the evil warlords try to drive them back, they ask themselves, "Where are all the demons and why aren't more of them helping us?"

I am totally taking this idea. However, I'd rather name this alternate Golarion something like Selarion.

In that scenario, I think the demons would be more than happy to "help out".

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Resistance (to the Abyss that is) is FUTILE!

And millions of religious conservatives cried out in joyous unison that they would have more fuel to fan the fire that continuously gives all decent roleplayers a hell of a headache.

Oh puh-leaze! When have anybody listen to religious conservatives other than other religious conservatives? Do anybody really take them seriously?

6 OF 66 OF HEXAMATRIX 666 wrote:

Winston Colt wrote:

Rust Monsters.

Rusting away hard earned equipment is enough to make a strong adventure weep.

Is it true that in fourth edition D&D, your equipment become "unrust" after a certain amount of time?

Please, do not bring up 4E here.

Unless, you are trying to provoke emotion here, on the boards.

Emotions are irelevant! :-p

But really, I heard about it and wondering if this was true...

Rust Monsters.

Rusting away hard earned equipment is enough to make a strong adventure weep.

Is it true that in foruth edition D&D, your equipment become "unrust" after a certain amount of time?

I just wanted to personally thank Pnakotus Detsujin for bringing this issue up. It's always seemed strange to me that good was so heavily outnumbered (and at times outgunned) by evil in the Pathfinder RPG setting. While I now see more reasons for Golarion (and the Multiverse) being tilted slightly more in favor of evil, I still think we definitely need a little more Celestials in the mix. I certainly wouldn't mind one or two brand new monster entries for each of the six kinds of celestials (aka Agathions, Angels, Archons, Azatas, Garuda, and Peril).

Resistance (to the Abyss that is) is FUTILE!

I am hoping that Spell resistance do not protect against psionics like it was in D&D's first two editions.

As they made Spell resistance work against psionics, third edition psionic powers basically became spells with no verbal, somatic or material components. Just require an action and "power points".

6 OF 66 OF HEXAMATRIX 666 wrote:

I don't know about provoking emotion....it can get carried away.

Once I had a player who got into an argument with the DM (his sister). In true Knights of the Dinner Table fashion his character was Lawful Good but his action was anything but. They got into a huge argument about how his deity penalized him for alignment infractions (he was a fighter,not a cleric or paladin). He cursed his god and she ruled that the deity struck him dead on the spot. He was sitting in his seat, throwing a tantrum with tears streaming down his face...

I was like...this is supposed to be just a game....!

Really! just Zap! dead!? I think I would argue as well, a cleric or paladin... maybe... if their actions were truely, truely heinous, like genocide or something. But a fighter? We don't know the whole story, but it sounds like bad GMing.

Actually I was the original DM and I was so tired of this guy calling himself Lawful good but not acting like it that I had his deity placed him on "probation" by having a couatl to watch over him (which pissed him off as the winged snake only observe and will not help in fights). His sister wanted to be DM for awhile so I wind up playing her character. During the game (we played Hidden Shrine of Tamoachan, and this was way back in the days of AD&D), they got into an argument. I forgot the exact circumstances which lead to it but I still vividly recall how after he yelled that he cursed his god, she declared that "Your god strikes you dead!!!!" Boom! Zeus would've been proud.

Of course, she ruled that the god resurrects him but he loses 1 Con pt and 1 level...which may be restore if he behaves.

Looking back I thought it was pretty wild....

6 OF 66 OF HEXAMATRIX 666 wrote:

The Agathion you mention has been assimilated by the Abyss! :-)

ahhh you are a Shadow Demon wearing the Agathion Cetaceal's body like a queen would wear a party-dress on her birthday?

That's creepy! But I always wanted to meet an evil Cetaceal, cuz I think they are much too cool to be just good-natured dweeps! An evil Cetaceal that is something I would like! One who rides Akhluts into battle! :D

Seriously, I pick this avatar because she looked like the borg queen!

6 OF 66 OF HEXAMATRIX 666 wrote:

Mazym wrote:

I wasn't even aware of Savage Tide. I was thinking of Lolth in the G1-Q1 / Queen of Spiders sequence.

That's right! Even Shackled City ended up with a trip to the glorious Abyss!

Not quite. Shackled City's Abyss adventure was part 6 or 12 ("Test of the Smoking Eye". The final stages of the path take place on Carceri.

Close enough! Carceri has since been assimilated into the Abyss. That's why the demodands are there now!

Six planets and six moons!!!!

I don't know about provoking emotion....it can get carried away.

Once I had a player who got into an argument with the DM (his sister). In true Knights of the Dinner Table fashion his character was Lawful Good but his action was anything but. They got into a huge argument about how his deity penalized him for alignment infractions (he was a fighter,not a cleric or paladin). He cursed his god and she ruled that the deity struck him dead on the spot. He was sitting in his seat, throwing a tantrum with tears streaming down his face...

I was like...this is supposed to be just a game....!

I wasn't even aware of Savage Tide. I was thinking of Lolth in the G1-Q1 / Queen of Spiders sequence.

That's right! Even Shackled City ended up with a trip to the glorious Abyss!

Sooner or later I do hope to see a scenario where the Abyss do succeed in sucking a world into the Abyss or taken over a Prime world.

I think it has a similar answer to the recent thread on asylums. There are probably hundreds of different kinds of good outsiders, but since this is a game where players are assumed to be good, players don't encounter them as readily. Similarly, unlike most evil outsiders who get constant selection by having to fight off rivals, most good outsiders probably do not go through such a selection process, so there are probably a lot of good outsiders with limited offensive abilities who are probably just hanging out in heaven.

I would actually argue that on a cosmic scale, "neutral" outsiders should probably be the most common, as I tend to think that most people drift neutral on the alignment spectrum. Few people are really THAT bad to be damned to Abbaddon, Hell, or the Abyss, and few people are that self sacrificing to end up in Heaven, Nirvana, or Elysium.

Sigh....this is why I miss the original cosmology of D&D....so many more planes to fit the alignments, if you are more chaotic and less evil, off you go to Pandemonium. If you are more evil and less Chaotic, you end up in Carceri. If you are just Chaotic neutral, you go to Limbo. If you a little more good than Chaotic, you end up in Ysgard. If you are Chaotic AND good, you dance with the elves in Arborea. If you are leaning more toward neutral than Chaotic but you are still good, you ended up with your dead pets in Beastlands....

The Agathion you mention has been assimilated by the Abyss! :-)

Demons and more demons.
All other monsters are irrelevant!