Venture-Captain, Michigan—Mt. Pleasant
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I asked this back at the end of 2010, and got the response below, but since then the rules for day job have changed, so after seeing someone else post a similar question, thought I'd repost my question here.
What's the official PFS view on the Bard archetype Street Performer's Gladhanding ability?
Does it double the day job result? As a first level character I've got a +16 on perform for money (Performance Artist trait, skill focus, 18 cha) and on average could get a 26, so would I get 100 gp since gladhandling doubles the amount I'd get from my Perform check? Or 200 if I rolled a 19-20? Since the ability isn't banned or adapted (yet) for PFS, does it in fact double the day job result? I think it should, but I know the PFS is strict about how much gp is handed out...Gladhanding: A street performer earns double the
normal amount of money from Perform checks. As a
standard action, he may use a Bluff check in place of a
Diplomacy check to improve a creature’s attitude for 1
minute, after which its attitude becomes one step worse
than originally. This ability replaces countersong.
As the rule currently stands, you do not earn money from a Perform check. Rather, you earn money from a Day Job check, which uses Perform ranks, feats, ability modifiers, and class skill modifiers but is not affected by racial modifiers or class abilities.
Not every Pathfinder works for the Society full time. Some
are trained artisans, professionals, or performers and
earn extra gold on the side, between missions. During
these times, you can attempt a trained Craft, Perform,
or Profession check to see how much extra money you
earn—this is called a Day Job check. In the Pathfinder
Society campaign, you may make one Day Job check after
the end of each adventure. Certain Vanities (Pathfinder
Society Field Guide 60) allow you to further modify your
Day Job rolls, or even let you use skill ranks from other,
more specialized skills like Heal or Sleight of Hand as
Day Job rolls.
Permanent bonuses from equipment, feats, racial
bonuses, and traits effect your Day Job check as they
would any check for the rolled skill, but temporary
bonuses such as those granted by spell effects do not
contribute, as the duration over which the Day Job check
is made is undefined and represents a longer amount of
time than a spell’s duration would permit the bonus to
remain. You cannot take 10 or take 20 on a Day Job check,
nor can you aid another.
In order to determine how much money you make as
a result of a Day Job check, consult the table below. Add
this amount to the Day Job box on your Chronicle sheet.
So, now it is an actual Perform check to earn money, does the Gladhanding apply now? The ability now uses the same words as Day Job, so it seems to me like it would.
Thanks.
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I would say it does not double the money from Day Job rolls as it's more conplicated that just a perform roll (and based on Mark's response). I can see people ruling the other way as well.
Frankly, I personally just don't do the Day Job thing. It's great at lower levels but it doesn't take long before the additional gold is negligible.
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You might want to take a look at the revised version of this trait.
Performance Artist: As a youth, you were involved with the avant garde theater scene of Oppara. Your performance skills have been known to bring even the toughest crowd to their feet. Choose one type of Perform skill. You gain a +1 trait bonus on Perform checks of the chosen type and this skill becomes a class skill for you.
The additional clause related to Day Jobs got removed, so your Day Job roll may be less than it once was.
No clue how this'll be impacted by the Gladhanding ability though.
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Venture-Captain, Michigan—Mt. Pleasant
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You might want to take a look at the revised version of this trait.
Performance Artist: As a youth, you were involved with the avant garde theater scene of Oppara. Your performance skills have been known to bring even the toughest crowd to their feet. Choose one type of Perform skill. You gain a +1 trait bonus on Perform checks of the chosen type and this skill becomes a class skill for you.
The additional clause related to Day Jobs got removed, so your Day Job roll may be less than it once was.
No clue how this'll be impacted by the Gladhanding ability though.
Yeah, that post was from a year and a half ago or so. I just posted it as is. I never even went with the archetype, but I'm still interested in the answer I asked.