
GM_Chris |
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I didn't note it in my post but I'm hoping the Intimidate gives them the Shaken result to account for most of us not wearing armor.
Today's rules lawyer topic while we wait for Thierry: Intimidate
Whether you think it's a cheez or the best thing since Cheez Whiz, the rules should be clear as we go foward.
First off, "Using Intimidate to change an opponent’s attitude requires 1 minute of conversation." You can't have the bad guys give up in the first round. If you want to try for 10 rounds, go for it.
Demoralize: You can use this skill to cause your opponents to become shaken for a number of rounds. This shaken condition doesn’t stack with other shaken conditions to make an affected creature frightened. (In the errata and the d20 web site, but not the PRD *grumble*). The DC of this check is equal to 10 + the target’s Hit Dice + the target’s Wisdom modifier.
So...does it apply to one opponent or all? Given that the Dazzling Display feat only affects creatures within 30' and takes a full round, I'm inclined to go with it being a single opponent, but I'll accept any target that could reasonably perceive the intimidation.
This is yet another recurring question that Paizo neglects to take the time to take an official stance on. This was the best player discussion I could find: Demoralize
That being said, your intimidate worked and there's no reason I couldn't have told you versus something like fear where he can't drop his weapon and run away until his initiative.

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Oh I'm completely on board with the way you did it, and those rules make perfect sense. I can see it going either way on targets. I'm planning on putting points in Intimidate so I wanted to make sure I know how you want to play it, thank you for the clarification. I personally had never looked up the Intimidate rules until I made the roll.
If you're going to say just one target then I pick Thug #1, since he was holding on to the victim. For a PbP it makes perfect sense to me that you'd want to wait until their turn before posting what is affecting them, otherwise you'd have to post once for every one of ours.

Dyrant Maynor, the Pre-Sainted |

Dryant, where is your familiar?
Pry! Feel free.
Angel, my 'angel', is safely stowed in my backpack, rarely to be seen.
I am still finalizing my profile and will complete it when I get home tonight.

GM_Chris |

Sigh, such good rolls too. Oh well. The only way I can keep them is if I partial charge Thug #1. Since I don't want to drop my AC to 7 against these guys (poor Undzo) I will instead:
You could have made it up, but been hit by 1 or 2 short swords that were ready. However, a partial charge is only an option when limited to a standard action in a round such as a surprise round or if you become a zombie.

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Finneas Glenn wrote:Sigh, such good rolls too. Oh well. The only way I can keep them is if I partial charge Thug #1. Since I don't want to drop my AC to 7 against these guys (poor Undzo) I will instead:You could have made it up, but been hit by 1 or 2 short swords that were ready. However, a partial charge is only an option when limited to a standard action in a round such as a surprise round or if you become a zombie.
Ah good to know, I didn't know that restriction on partial charge. Yeah I didn't think getting into the middle of an alley with three men armed with short swords was going to see me walk out the other side. :D

GM_Chris |

Melee touch attack: 1d20 + 1
Spell damage: 1d6
He then swings his bastard sword at MIB #1.
Bastard sword attack: 1d20 + 1
Melee damage: 1d10 + 2
It didn't matter this time, but aren't these attacks supposed to be at -2 when done as a full round action or did I miss a feat, trait, etc?

Atol Lem |

Aren't priests in Greyhawk supposed to stick with blunt weapons, in the tradition of the earlier editions? :)
Chris - I too have a Xbow. I'm happy dumping it for a sling, though I'd rather keep the Xbow. Or is this merely Silfr Snark? :D

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Atol Lem wrote:100% unadulterated Snark.Silfr wrote:Aren't priests in Greyhawk supposed to stick with blunt weapons, in the tradition of the earlier editions? :)Chris - I too have a Xbow. I'm happy dumping it for a sling, though I'd rather keep the Xbow. Or is this merely Silfr Snark? :D
I'm guessing Atol was hoping Dyrant's crossbow was a blunted one for a while there. :)

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Thierry du Chabannes wrote:It didn't matter this time, but aren't these attacks supposed to be at -2 when done as a full round action or did I miss a feat, trait, etc?
Melee touch attack: 1d20 + 1
Spell damage: 1d6
He then swings his bastard sword at MIB #1.
Bastard sword attack: 1d20 + 1
Melee damage: 1d10 + 2
They were at -2. The bonus was +3 (+2 STR, +1 Bless)

Dyrant Maynor, the Pre-Sainted |

Hopefully I'm not posting too much, let me know if you want me to cut back. I'm just at the computer a lot.
I just want to highlight this. I love to see how many in-game, in-character, plot-neutralish, roleplaying posts I can get in with other players before the judge posts.
For me, I'm happy to engage in dialogue and discussion...this is PbP and if there is any medium for that sort of thing, this is it.
And if it helps build character or roleplaying, I say don't hold back.

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Finneas Glenn wrote:Hopefully I'm not posting too much, let me know if you want me to cut back. I'm just at the computer a lot.I just want to highlight this. I love to see how many in-game, in-character, plot-neutralish, roleplaying posts I can get in with other players before the judge posts.
For me, I'm happy to engage in dialogue and discussion...this is PbP and if there is any medium for that sort of thing, this is it.
And if it helps build character or roleplaying, I say don't hold back.
That's pretty much how I feel, I just don't want people to log in and go "Holy cow another dozen posts, doesn't this guy ever sleep?"

GM_Chris |

And the party is split! Yes!
Actually, I believe in party splitting outside of combat especially during an extended adventure such as a multi year adventure path. Additionally, play by post accomodates this well as there is a lot of dead time and it's easy to maintain multiple conversations.
From a role playing persepctive, I just can't see a party of six adventures walking everywhere together. How is the rogue ever going to be stealthy? How is the bard ever going to be able to sweet talk the teenage girl at the clerk's desk into letting him see files if there are 5 other suspicious characters looking on. Feel free to wander about separately and meet up later.
Unless you decide to single handedly climb into the Lord Mayor's office and break into his safe, challenge the captain of the guard to a duel, or attack someone for no reason, it's likely your friends will happen to be in earshot if anything goes too poorly.

Silfr |

Dyrant looks at the common folk and wonders what it will be like to be one of them.
And so the descent into starry eyed madness begins, over a bowl of soup.. Will he unload his crossbow on the crowd, screaming after imaginary holy symbols? Or turn the deadly bolt on himself...

Dyrant Maynor, the Pre-Sainted |

Jenya also provides Atol a copy of the divination.
What? Giving it to *him*? Ack. He's just going to eat it or misplace it.
Gah!
:)

Dyrant Maynor, the Pre-Sainted |

Aren't you at the pub getting ready to waste somebody with your crossbow? :P
Actually, just eating stew.
Just waiting...waiting...waiting for that grinning oaf of a 'priest' to give me a reason, *any* reason, to fill him full of bolt.

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Balodek wrote:Aren't you at the pub getting ready to waste somebody with your crossbow? :PActually, just eating stew.
Just waiting...waiting...waiting for that grinning oaf of a 'priest' to give me a reason, *any* reason, to fill him full of bolt.
Never stand between Dyrant and Atol...check.

GM_Chris |

Do you want to assign a noble house to Silfr or can I make up a name?
My assumption is that the background trait is a method for plot hooks and not significant favors.
Feel free to pick one or create one. You can be ignorant of or complicit in plots and plans as they develop. I'll work it in. Are you a black sheep of the family or part of the inner circle? Or, both? Let me know and I'll likely send you motivations off the board.

Dyrant Maynor, the Pre-Sainted |

The only other way around fatigue I know of is a Lesser Restoration spell.
Or if we had a *real* paladin with the right mercies...not some withered husk with one shriveled foot in the grave.

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Atol Lem wrote:The only other way around fatigue I know of is a Lesser Restoration spell.Or if we had a *real* paladin with the right mercies...not some withered husk with one shriveled foot in the grave.
You mean a third level paladin? They'd be more likely to smite a heratic theif like Dryant than gently lay on the hands.

Dyrant Maynor, the Pre-Sainted |

They'd be more likely to smite a heratic theif like Dryant than gently lay on the hands.
With your strength, I'm not likely to be able to tell the difference.
Really, what are going to hit me with? A slipper? A rolled up newspaper?
Silfr = "Quit robbing priests on my lawn! Git off m' lawn!"

D30 |

I mistook your first party member for some vagabond missionary, which of course made no sense since the Church of St. Cuthbert is so well represented here already. Then I thought him merely a charlatan, but he approached not a one of my customers to sell them worthless trinkets. Imagine my relief when I discovered he was an adventurer. Adventurers are always welcome in my fine establishment!"
However those are not mutually exclusive assessments.

Finneas Glenn |

"Thank you. Thank you. It is a secret recipe of my family that we brought here many generations ago. It can be hard at times to get the peanuts and other spices imported, but it is well worth the trouble."
Peanuts? But...I'm allergic...
Thud
Now that would be a bad way to go for an adventurer.

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Finneas Glenn wrote:
I thought Aeneas had it? Looking at his sheet there is a typo by the Disable Device and as a Human Rogue he should have 9 skill points.Hmmm odd..... Found it! Good eyes Finneas. Unfortunately I do NOT have disable device. Aeneas is a fighter in a rogue suit rather than a real rogue.
Glad I could help. :D
If we come across any traps or locks I guess we'll have to use the Nodwick method. I assume Dyrant will elect Atol for the role of Nodwick.