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Shackled City (Pathfinder) - GM_Chris

Game Master Chris Shannon 719

This will be the Shackled City adventure path using the Pathfinder rule set. However, the existing deities (i.e. St. Cuthbert, Pelor, Wee Jas) will not be converted to similar Golarion gods.


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Balodek wrote:
I didn't note it in my post but I'm hoping the Intimidate gives them the Shaken result to account for most of us not wearing armor.

Today's rules lawyer topic while we wait for Thierry: Intimidate

Whether you think it's a cheez or the best thing since Cheez Whiz, the rules should be clear as we go foward.

First off, "Using Intimidate to change an opponent’s attitude requires 1 minute of conversation." You can't have the bad guys give up in the first round. If you want to try for 10 rounds, go for it.

Demoralize: You can use this skill to cause your opponents to become shaken for a number of rounds. This shaken condition doesn’t stack with other shaken conditions to make an affected creature frightened. (In the errata and the d20 web site, but not the PRD *grumble*). The DC of this check is equal to 10 + the target’s Hit Dice + the target’s Wisdom modifier.

So...does it apply to one opponent or all? Given that the Dazzling Display feat only affects creatures within 30' and takes a full round, I'm inclined to go with it being a single opponent, but I'll accept any target that could reasonably perceive the intimidation.

This is yet another recurring question that Paizo neglects to take the time to take an official stance on. This was the best player discussion I could find: Demoralize

That being said, your intimidate worked and there's no reason I couldn't have told you versus something like fear where he can't drop his weapon and run away until his initiative.

Shadow Lodge

Oh I'm completely on board with the way you did it, and those rules make perfect sense. I can see it going either way on targets. I'm planning on putting points in Intimidate so I wanted to make sure I know how you want to play it, thank you for the clarification. I personally had never looked up the Intimidate rules until I made the roll.

If you're going to say just one target then I pick Thug #1, since he was holding on to the victim. For a PbP it makes perfect sense to me that you'd want to wait until their turn before posting what is affecting them, otherwise you'd have to post once for every one of ours.


Male Half-Elf Summoner (Synthesist) 1 / Paladin 2

Dryant, where is your familiar?


Male Human Investigator rogue
Silfr wrote:
Dryant, where is your familiar?

I was wondering but I didn't want to pry.


Stats:
F14:R16:W16 (+2);K(Arc)23;K(Dun)12;K(Hist)16;K(Loc)22;K(Nat)22;K(Pln)27;K(Rel)22;Perc 25;SMot 20;Spllcft 26;UMD 18
Cuthbertist 15 - Bludgeoner First Class
Silfr wrote:
Dryant, where is your familiar?

Pry! Feel free.

Angel, my 'angel', is safely stowed in my backpack, rarely to be seen.

I am still finalizing my profile and will complete it when I get home tonight.

Shadow Lodge

I am curious to meet Angel, but right now the only familiar I want is to make Thug #1 familiar with my axe via the second catechism of Kord, canonically titled "Hit Them in the Face". ;)


Male Human Investigator rogue

We are in trouble folks.

They have a flatfooted CMD of between 14 and 19. This is about to get ugly.

Shadow Lodge

Well holy crap. I think Thug #3 is not going to be giving us much trouble...

Cheliax

GM_Chris wrote:
7am in ??? And, always rush forward and tackle the biggest, meanest looking thing out there. Check.

Whoops! I am CDT in Texas

EDIT: Also made the corrections you pointed out.


Finneas Glenn wrote:
Sigh, such good rolls too. Oh well. The only way I can keep them is if I partial charge Thug #1. Since I don't want to drop my AC to 7 against these guys (poor Undzo) I will instead:

You could have made it up, but been hit by 1 or 2 short swords that were ready. However, a partial charge is only an option when limited to a standard action in a round such as a surprise round or if you become a zombie.

Shadow Lodge

GM_Chris wrote:
Finneas Glenn wrote:
Sigh, such good rolls too. Oh well. The only way I can keep them is if I partial charge Thug #1. Since I don't want to drop my AC to 7 against these guys (poor Undzo) I will instead:
You could have made it up, but been hit by 1 or 2 short swords that were ready. However, a partial charge is only an option when limited to a standard action in a round such as a surprise round or if you become a zombie.

Ah good to know, I didn't know that restriction on partial charge. Yeah I didn't think getting into the middle of an alley with three men armed with short swords was going to see me walk out the other side. :D


Male Half-Elf Summoner (Synthesist) 1 / Paladin 2
Dryant wrote:


Move action: Load the crossbow

Aren't priests in Greyhawk supposed to stick with blunt weapons, in the tradition of the earlier editions? :)

Jamie Hyneman wrote:


"Well there's your problem!"


Thierry du Chabannes wrote:


Melee touch attack: 1d20 + 1
Spell damage: 1d6
He then swings his bastard sword at MIB #1.
Bastard sword attack: 1d20 + 1
Melee damage: 1d10 + 2

It didn't matter this time, but aren't these attacks supposed to be at -2 when done as a full round action or did I miss a feat, trait, etc?


Male Human (Per +6 | Fort +16 Ref +11 Will +21 | AC 29 (f28/t15) | CMD 20)
Silfr wrote:
Aren't priests in Greyhawk supposed to stick with blunt weapons, in the tradition of the earlier editions? :)

Chris - I too have a Xbow. I'm happy dumping it for a sling, though I'd rather keep the Xbow. Or is this merely Silfr Snark? :D


Atol Lem wrote:
Silfr wrote:
Aren't priests in Greyhawk supposed to stick with blunt weapons, in the tradition of the earlier editions? :)
Chris - I too have a Xbow. I'm happy dumping it for a sling, though I'd rather keep the Xbow. Or is this merely Silfr Snark? :D

100% unadulterated Snark.

Shadow Lodge

GM_Chris wrote:
Atol Lem wrote:
Silfr wrote:
Aren't priests in Greyhawk supposed to stick with blunt weapons, in the tradition of the earlier editions? :)
Chris - I too have a Xbow. I'm happy dumping it for a sling, though I'd rather keep the Xbow. Or is this merely Silfr Snark? :D
100% unadulterated Snark.

I'm guessing Atol was hoping Dyrant's crossbow was a blunted one for a while there. :)


Male Human (Per +6 | Fort +16 Ref +11 Will +21 | AC 29 (f28/t15) | CMD 20)

hahahah! Totally. :D

My first cure light and it's a max! The dice ARE kind at Paizo!

Cheliax

GM_Chris wrote:
Thierry du Chabannes wrote:


Melee touch attack: 1d20 + 1
Spell damage: 1d6
He then swings his bastard sword at MIB #1.
Bastard sword attack: 1d20 + 1
Melee damage: 1d10 + 2
It didn't matter this time, but aren't these attacks supposed to be at -2 when done as a full round action or did I miss a feat, trait, etc?

They were at -2. The bonus was +3 (+2 STR, +1 Bless)


Stats:
F14:R16:W16 (+2);K(Arc)23;K(Dun)12;K(Hist)16;K(Loc)22;K(Nat)22;K(Pln)27;K(Rel)22;Perc 25;SMot 20;Spllcft 26;UMD 18
Cuthbertist 15 - Bludgeoner First Class
Finneas Glenn wrote:
Hopefully I'm not posting too much, let me know if you want me to cut back. I'm just at the computer a lot.

I just want to highlight this. I love to see how many in-game, in-character, plot-neutralish, roleplaying posts I can get in with other players before the judge posts.

For me, I'm happy to engage in dialogue and discussion...this is PbP and if there is any medium for that sort of thing, this is it.

And if it helps build character or roleplaying, I say don't hold back.


Aasimar Paladin [Oath Against Fiends (Hospitaler, Warrior of the Holy Light)] Init +0, AC 18, 10, 18; CMD 13; F +6, R +4, W +6; HP 25/25; Per +3, Detect Evil, Smite Evil 1/1

Hey! Shouldn't that have been MP + KT on the back of that holy symbol?


Male Human - Varisian Wizard 1 - Universalist
Kosz Trumpeter wrote:
Hey! Shouldn't that have been MP + KT on the back of that holy symbol?

LOL. I had missed that.

Shadow Lodge

Dyrant Maynor, the Pre-Sainted wrote:
Finneas Glenn wrote:
Hopefully I'm not posting too much, let me know if you want me to cut back. I'm just at the computer a lot.

I just want to highlight this. I love to see how many in-game, in-character, plot-neutralish, roleplaying posts I can get in with other players before the judge posts.

For me, I'm happy to engage in dialogue and discussion...this is PbP and if there is any medium for that sort of thing, this is it.

And if it helps build character or roleplaying, I say don't hold back.

That's pretty much how I feel, I just don't want people to log in and go "Holy cow another dozen posts, doesn't this guy ever sleep?"


And the party is split! Yes!

Actually, I believe in party splitting outside of combat especially during an extended adventure such as a multi year adventure path. Additionally, play by post accomodates this well as there is a lot of dead time and it's easy to maintain multiple conversations.

From a role playing persepctive, I just can't see a party of six adventures walking everywhere together. How is the rogue ever going to be stealthy? How is the bard ever going to be able to sweet talk the teenage girl at the clerk's desk into letting him see files if there are 5 other suspicious characters looking on. Feel free to wander about separately and meet up later.

Unless you decide to single handedly climb into the Lord Mayor's office and break into his safe, challenge the captain of the guard to a duel, or attack someone for no reason, it's likely your friends will happen to be in earshot if anything goes too poorly.

Qadira

Male Humanoidish Yahoo 4/Painlord 6/Punk 2/Cleric of Happiness & Sunshine 1
GM_Chris wrote:
...it's likely your friends will happen to be in earshot if anything goes too poorly.

I have friends?


Painlord wrote:
GM_Chris wrote:
...it's likely your friends will happen to be in earshot if anything goes too poorly.
I have friends?

No. You're dead sucka.


GM_Chris wrote:
Unless you decide to single handedly climb into the Lord Mayor's office and break into his safe...

Sounds like a plan! What is he hiding in there, anyways?


Male Half-Elf Summoner (Synthesist) 1 / Paladin 2
Dyrant Maynor, the Pre-Sainted wrote:


Dyrant looks at the common folk and wonders what it will be like to be one of them.

And so the descent into starry eyed madness begins, over a bowl of soup.. Will he unload his crossbow on the crowd, screaming after imaginary holy symbols? Or turn the deadly bolt on himself...


Interesting. Bigger shows up smaller on my iPhone. I wonder what smaller looks like.


Stats:
F14:R16:W16 (+2);K(Arc)23;K(Dun)12;K(Hist)16;K(Loc)22;K(Nat)22;K(Pln)27;K(Rel)22;Perc 25;SMot 20;Spllcft 26;UMD 18
Cuthbertist 15 - Bludgeoner First Class
GM_Chris wrote:
Jenya also provides Atol a copy of the divination.

What? Giving it to *him*? Ack. He's just going to eat it or misplace it.

Gah!

:)

Shadow Lodge

Dyrant Maynor, the Pre-Sainted wrote:
GM_Chris wrote:
Jenya also provides Atol a copy of the divination.

What? Giving it to *him*? Ack. He's just going to eat it or misplace it.

Gah!

:)

Aren't you at the pub getting ready to waste somebody with your crossbow? :P


Stats:
F14:R16:W16 (+2);K(Arc)23;K(Dun)12;K(Hist)16;K(Loc)22;K(Nat)22;K(Pln)27;K(Rel)22;Perc 25;SMot 20;Spllcft 26;UMD 18
Cuthbertist 15 - Bludgeoner First Class
Balodek wrote:
Aren't you at the pub getting ready to waste somebody with your crossbow? :P

Actually, just eating stew.

Just waiting...waiting...waiting for that grinning oaf of a 'priest' to give me a reason, *any* reason, to fill him full of bolt.

Shadow Lodge

Dyrant Maynor, the Pre-Sainted wrote:
Balodek wrote:
Aren't you at the pub getting ready to waste somebody with your crossbow? :P

Actually, just eating stew.

Just waiting...waiting...waiting for that grinning oaf of a 'priest' to give me a reason, *any* reason, to fill him full of bolt.

Never stand between Dyrant and Atol...check.


Do you want to assign a noble house to Silfr or can I make up a name?

My assumption is that the background trait is a method for plot hooks and not significant favors.


D30 wrote:

Do you want to assign a noble house to Silfr or can I make up a name?

My assumption is that the background trait is a method for plot hooks and not significant favors.

Feel free to pick one or create one. You can be ignorant of or complicit in plots and plans as they develop. I'll work it in. Are you a black sheep of the family or part of the inner circle? Or, both? Let me know and I'll likely send you motivations off the board.

Shadow Lodge

Hmm, meeting in 4 hours could be a problem. It takes 8 hours of rest to get rid of fatigued. Not sure I want to meet a cabal of painted up child kidnappers at less than full capacity. Are there common ways around fatigue other than rest that we have ready access to?


Male Human (Per +6 | Fort +16 Ref +11 Will +21 | AC 29 (f28/t15) | CMD 20)

Urp! That was tasty.

The only other way around fatigue I know of is a Lesser Restoration spell.


Stats:
F14:R16:W16 (+2);K(Arc)23;K(Dun)12;K(Hist)16;K(Loc)22;K(Nat)22;K(Pln)27;K(Rel)22;Perc 25;SMot 20;Spllcft 26;UMD 18
Cuthbertist 15 - Bludgeoner First Class
Atol Lem wrote:
The only other way around fatigue I know of is a Lesser Restoration spell.

Or if we had a *real* paladin with the right mercies...not some withered husk with one shriveled foot in the grave.


Male Human (Per +6 | Fort +16 Ref +11 Will +21 | AC 29 (f28/t15) | CMD 20)
Dyrant Maynor, the Pre-Sainted wrote:

Or if we had a *real* paladin with the right mercies...not some withered husk with one shriveled foot in the grave.

hahahahahahaaha. whew.


Atol Lem wrote:

Urp! That was tasty.

The only other way around fatigue I know of is a Lesser Restoration spell.

Or GM handwave. I wasn't trying to create an obstacle just keep people in character. Let's proceed with everyone rested.


Dyrant Maynor, the Pre-Sainted wrote:
Atol Lem wrote:
The only other way around fatigue I know of is a Lesser Restoration spell.

Or if we had a *real* paladin with the right mercies...not some withered husk with one shriveled foot in the grave.

You mean a third level paladin? They'd be more likely to smite a heratic theif like Dryant than gently lay on the hands.


Stats:
F14:R16:W16 (+2);K(Arc)23;K(Dun)12;K(Hist)16;K(Loc)22;K(Nat)22;K(Pln)27;K(Rel)22;Perc 25;SMot 20;Spllcft 26;UMD 18
Cuthbertist 15 - Bludgeoner First Class
D30 wrote:
They'd be more likely to smite a heratic theif like Dryant than gently lay on the hands.

With your strength, I'm not likely to be able to tell the difference.

Really, what are going to hit me with? A slipper? A rolled up newspaper?

Silfr = "Quit robbing priests on my lawn! Git off m' lawn!"


GM_Chris wrote:


I mistook your first party member for some vagabond missionary, which of course made no sense since the Church of St. Cuthbert is so well represented here already. Then I thought him merely a charlatan, but he approached not a one of my customers to sell them worthless trinkets. Imagine my relief when I discovered he was an adventurer. Adventurers are always welcome in my fine establishment!"

However those are not mutually exclusive assessments.


|| Per +18 | Fort +13 Ref +8 Will +13 | BAB +12 | CMB +17 | CMD 29 || Init +7 Half-Orc (Smoking Eye) Oracle of Battle/Barbarian (Armored Hulk)/Rage Prophet/Chevalier 4/3/5/3

"Thank you. Thank you. It is a secret recipe of my family that we brought here many generations ago. It can be hard at times to get the peanuts and other spices imported, but it is well worth the trouble."

Peanuts? But...I'm allergic...

Thud

Now that would be a bad way to go for an adventurer.

Shadow Lodge

Dyrant Maynor, the Pre-Sainted wrote:
D30 wrote:
They'd be more likely to smite a heratic theif like Dryant than gently lay on the hands.

With your strength, I'm not likely to be able to tell the difference.

You two have the same strength, it'd be like watching a kitten boxing match.


Dryant wrote:

Dyrant doesn't know what to make of Silfr's comment.

What is this supposed to mean?

Sounds like Dryant is confused and suffering from sleep deprivation. If only he rested like the others in the party instead of going from one bar to the next!


Male Human (Per +6 | Fort +16 Ref +11 Will +21 | AC 29 (f28/t15) | CMD 20)
Finneas Glenn wrote:
"Not only are they polite, but they are far smarter and wiser than I..."

Shouldn't that be smarter OR wiser?

Shadow Lodge

Atol Lem wrote:
Finneas Glenn wrote:
"Not only are they polite, but they are far smarter and wiser than I..."
Shouldn't that be smarter OR wiser?

Ah but if I was smarter or wiser then I would know it should be "smarter or wiser" but then it wouldn't be true. :D

Shadow Lodge

Aeneas wrote:
Finneas Glenn wrote:


I thought Aeneas had it? Looking at his sheet there is a typo by the Disable Device and as a Human Rogue he should have 9 skill points.

Hmmm odd..... Found it! Good eyes Finneas. Unfortunately I do NOT have disable device. Aeneas is a fighter in a rogue suit rather than a real rogue.

Glad I could help. :D

If we come across any traps or locks I guess we'll have to use the Nodwick method. I assume Dyrant will elect Atol for the role of Nodwick.


Male Human (Per +6 | Fort +16 Ref +11 Will +21 | AC 29 (f28/t15) | CMD 20)

hahah! Anything I can do to help... I found something! Oof that hurt.


We need some arcane casters in this party, then we could just knock down all the doors. Too many priests & paladins.

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