Now, just so I'm clear, I know that Glimmil is a scatter brained gnome paladin with reasons for his actions. Finneas does not. So I am not trying to start any conflict, just reflect Finneas' frustration at Glimmil the Spoony Paladin.
QFT.
Dyrant is having a moment as well.
Kind of a damned if I do damned if I don't situation here. I'm thinking now that we see the pit is gone that our plan of jumping in wouldn't have worked anyway.
Might gum up the gearing :)
"Finneas, give me about 15' of length on the rope and hold tight. Atol, you may want to help!"
I know your depressed, but I don't think they're ready to help with an assisted suicide yet.
LOL every time I read this. Classic...
I'd wing a hand axe in there if it'll work. Or the gnome. Hell if I could jump down there and hit it with my sword I'd do that too.
My guess is we don't want to destroy the gears, just prevent the room from throwing Silfr around so we can buy more time to systematically deal with the trap. (and take 10s and 20s).
Once we have the ability to take several minutes of time, my hope is a DC25 Disable Device allows us to work the mechanism in such a way to slowly right the pit to face upward and use the rope to get Silfr out?
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At this point I think the best plan is for you and I to hammer that door open. If we can see Silfr then we're mostly there. If the pit swings out of sight then we obviously can't have him hang from the rope.
Throwing the rope to him and having him climb it? Throwing the rope to him and having him tie himself to the wall? This trap sucks. Second only to the trap from the Ashardalon series. Pit trap into a chute greased and lined with razors, 60' of chute drops you outside the tower, 150' over sharp rocks.
Truly I am Dyrant's anchor!
Lolz.
And *sigh*.
I had really wanted to add "spiritual as well as physical" but that wasn't in character. :D
I know your depressed, but I don't think they're ready to help with an assisted suicide yet."Finneas, give me about 15' of length on the rope and hold tight. Atol, you may want to help!"
Don't worry, I'm pretty sure that Dyrant feels that staying with these yahoos is deathwish enough. It's just a matter of how much suffering he can take.
It is certainly a burly trap.
1d4 spikes attacking for 1d4 damage every other round after falling for 2d6?
First level, when the person who likely fell in had 10-12HP?
Silfr, have you DM'd Chris in the past and perhaps killed one of his favorite characters?
Silfr, have you DM'd Chris in the past and perhaps killed one of his favorite characters?
I don't believe so, though Painlord has certainly stood idly while my character was in mortal danger in the past. :)
Well it certainly illustrates why professionals drill together before going into combat.
Agreed. Dyrant has some growing to do...he's used to working alone.
Should I be concerned that nobody else is concerned that the gnome is stranded on the far side of a 10x10 pit?
It's not that we're not concerned, it's that we figured you could get across or we'd helped you across. Or at least I'd assumed.
If you just ignore the map and all the things that GM Chris says like I do, these kinds of things aren't an issue.
Yeah, the disarmed trap should be safe to cross. Except the holes in the floor we chopped.
Are all of the floors wood? I'd assume so or that wouldn't be much of a hidden trap. If we get stuck we'll just chop our way under the doors. Anybody bring a shovel.
Nah, the gnomes would've thought of that. Tricksy they are.
Typically you won't be able to take 20 for disabling traps unless you can explain your reasoning. In this case I'd buy it since you can likely access the trap without standing on it. However, you would not be able to take 20 on a chest with an acid arrow or fireball trap.
Ah, yes I presumed since we had hacked the trap to bits, that there was little chance of Glimmil springing it while he jammed one of the doors, or whatever he did to bypass it.
I understand that a poison dart trap would possibly be set off while disabled if the skill check failed by 5+.
Here I was hoping there wouldn't be many traps down here, but now I suspect there's many of them...
If the check succeeds, you disable the device. If it fails by 4 or less, you have failed but can try again. If you fail by 5 or more, something goes wrong. If the device is a trap, you spring it. If you’re attempting some sort of sabotage, you think the device is disabled, but it still works normally.
We need a better method for trap-finding... Glimmil's making me nervous!
I always get a kick when I'm playing a character and as the player I'm thinking "No Glimmil, be more cautious! Don't run off!" but he simply does what he does, and I feel like I'm just the spectator.
I never intended him as a paladin to be the primary skill-monkey, maybe we can recruit us an Alchemist to find and disable traps, hmmm?
Plus, I just know these traps are going to require a DC25 Perception check!
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Can Alchemists disable magical traps or just mundane ones? If all else fails I can go the route of rogue or urban ranger or trapper ranger to pick up disable device and the ability to use it on magical traps. With only a 15 CHA (oops, forgot Oracles went to 9) I'm planning on multiclassing into something with good BAB anyway.
Oh, I just brought it up because I thought there was an Alchemist lurking on the sidelines moving across the country who needed some encouragement to rejoin the game :)
Given all 5 members of the group will have solid healing at next level (Glimmil will join the ranks with lay hands), I have no problem with the gnome setting off every trap in the place.
I have no problem with the gnome setting off every trap in the place.
See, typing that where Dyrant could see it was just a mistake...
I made a map to show the letters on the doors, in case that ends up being useful. Also has the rough tunnels we spotted.
I'll third it. Awesome map - thanks!
Nice map!
I'm a little nervous, I can start to see it spelling "J A R J A R".
LOL, I have to admit, I was more interested in applying to that one when I saw you jumped into it, too.
FYI - I wanted to warn you guys I'm going on vacation today through Sunday.
If Glimmil ever holds anything up from 9A-5P PDT (when I'll be outdoors enjoying myself), I trust Chris can appropriately GMPC an overzealous gnome. I'll have wi-fi and will post in the mornings and evenings.
Have a great vacation Glimmil. I'm sure we'll survive without our trap hunter for a few hours each day. :) Maybe...
No worries!
Dyrant is happy to volunteer Atol as the new trapfinder.
Everybody wins.
hahahaha!
Map with more door letters, tunnels....
Can you post a new map with the location of the mound of dirt + opening?
Dryant was talking about then went to explore X,7... as if it led to the surface.
"I don't think that is wise. This landing *should* be a dead end leading to the surface, let me check on that, then the rooms should be next."Dyrant will pad his way to X7.
Then Painlord and I were talking and he said this was the exit we later learned about at S, 6.
From my reading the map this is not an exit to the surface from before but instead just up to the room behind the door at U, 7.
Thinking a new map would clear this up.
Related note....
Also did we ever get line of sight to see if a tunnel was in the southwest corner of that giant hallway?
"Two piles of rubble, one in the northwest corner and another in the southwest corner, add elements of imperfection to this grand hall."
Thinking a new map would clear this up.
New maps up. Dyrant is very confused and/or forgetful. You went down three staircases from J1 to get to the current level. Going up a single staircase typically does not then get you back up to the surface.
Dyrant = 27 - Wards Finneas. Is this a touch spell?
I don't think it specifies either range or touch and there are numerous posts that ask the same question...and argue both ways.
In my mind, I've been playing it for range 30' like most of the other hexes.
I'd have not taken it if it were touch (why would I want to be up close to combat to make it useful?! would have taken evil eye instead which does a similar thing: -2 to attacks), but wouldn't disagree if you ruled it was touch.
In short, GM call.
In long, if it's touch, mind if I switch it to evil eye hex?
"Two piles of rubble, one in the northwest corner and another in the southwest corner, add elements of imperfection to this grand hall."
The map program didn't reveal it that way, but Glimmil would have been able to see it. Yes, there is a tunnel.
In short, GM call.
I'm fine with 30'. It's nice, but it's not broken.
@ Glimmil: "Your" bachelor party or a friend's?