Reign of Winter (Inactive)

Game Master Just a Mort

The troublesome M-word.

Greta's fly check = 2(dex) - 2(size) + 3(Mr Whisker's caster level on the fly spell) +4 (good maneuverability) = total +7

Unfortunately, Alter self spell does not give a climb speed.

Greta's light load = 300 lbs (base 100, large quadpeds = x3)
Medium = 600 lbs
Heavy = up to 900 lbs.

This is without weight factored in.

Million dollar question - how heavy is Einar and his gear? His full plate is already 25 lbs. Riding Saddle adds 30 lbs more.

Tiefling weight is 130-220 lbs

Caster level is 7. I forgot that my caster level gave a bonus on the check.

I've got Einars gear at 157 lbs. I believe that is accurate, and Einar himself at 6' 5" would be easily close to 220 lbs. so 380 lbs. rounded up...

Mr. Whiskers weighs 71 lbs. and is carrying slightly less than 22 lbs., so less than 100 lbs. total.

So about 2/3 the weight of Einar's current gear. :)

Unpack until you're at 300 lbs, with gear. Weight restrictions on Greta airlines!

Fly is half caster level check bonus, so if you reservoired and pushed it to 8, there would be a +4 check.

Mind you if you drop weapons for easy switching while you're out there, you lose the weapon in question.

Fly is half caster level check bonus, so if you reservoired and pushed it to 8, there would be a +4 check.

Sorry, I should have checked the spell. As I stated, I don't have experience with the flight rules.

Still nice to be reminded that it gives a small bonus to the skill!

Ya, I try to help as much as possible. I love overland flight!

Also Einar, your ride skill is 2+3(class)-2(armor) =3.

Mithral full plate is 3 ACP.

Also, Einar, please do not enlarge while you're on Greta, because you don't have undersized mount feat. Let's get the take off started!

Not to mention, his weight would increase by a factor of 8.... Poor Greta would definitely have a sore back, and would likely sink like a stone, with 2400 lbs riding her!

Also Einar, your ride skill is 2+3(class)-2(armor) =3.

Mithral full plate is 3 ACP.

Also, Einar, please do not enlarge while you're on Greta, because you don't have undersized mount feat. Let's get the take off started!

Mort, the list for armor affecting skill:

Mitheral

armor check penalties are decreased by 3

Mitheral armor is Always Master work, that decreases it by 1 more.

Because Einar is a “steelblood” archetype he has “armor training” which “reduces the armor check penalty by 1 (to a maximum of 0) and increases the maximum Dexterity bonus allowed by his armor by 1”

So total armor penalty is -1

einar doesn't have any skill in ride, so it's dex @3 - 1 armor = 2 ride skill

Mithral bonus already included in MW?

Oh. You have no ranks in ride skill. I didn't look at your archetype.

I don't understand, in the first post you highlighted the final observation is that Mitheral armor is always masterwork.

So it gets the master work armor bonus's as well right?

Its already counted in when they count the mithral bonus.

"Mithral full plate of speed" is mithral full plate with an ACP of -3.

you ninja'd my post, I kept reading

"Things you can find in Chapter 15 of the OFFICIAL Core Rulebook:
"Elven chain" is mithral chainmail with an ACP of -2.
"Mithral full plate of speed" is mithral full plate with an ACP of -3.
Those are 100% OFFICIAL facts, right there in black and white."

So it looks like I need to go redue... everything, so with the class trait its -2 so +1 on the ride skill,

so did he fall off Greta or just not be able to attack?

No you're both on the ground. The glowing balls of light did not pursue.

I'll say since I did a miscalc, you get the first set of full attacks off for free. No difference since they all missed.

If you fail your ride check next time, you lose 1 claw attack as you need to hang to saddle with one hand.

With regards to weight, count all your magical items in, since they don't weigh much.

But, now what?

Edit: The party may now peek at the Spoilers labelled Einar, since Greta told you all about it.

I've put it on campaign info, if you wish me to use any specific wording, please inform me in discussion. I can copy paste it everytime you summon - you just need to put summons, with disclaimer 1) on it.

Edited wording a bit so as not to alert the entire dungeon:

Summon Disclaimer 1:

Please <insert task here>, if you run into anything hostile, please retreat back to me as swiftly and safely as possible then describe to me softly about everything about the terrain ahead and about the opposition you faced. If you are unable to escape, please yell out about the terrain ahead and opposition you face.

No you're both on the ground. The glowing balls of light did not pursue.

I was wondering if the party should climb the cliff up a ways but not quite as high as the attack. Then we fly from there and lure the attackers back to the hidden people,

Obviously I'm assuming there are places we could rest and get our footing.

There is no space you can get your footing. I am sorry. The cliff face IS a cliff face.

If your mount moves more than 5 feet, you can only make a single melee attack. Essentially, you have to wait until the mount gets to your enemy before attacking, so you can’t make a full attack.

Mounted combat section CRB.

that's fine, not a lot of the second ones are hitting anyway, I'm assuming if it's 5 ft from Greta that I can bite and 10 ft from her attack with the glaive. It just odd because he's in the one corner, so I wasn't sure if he had to use the glaive while the thing was on the other side.

You can, since Greta made her hover check. Greta is having a field day being a frostthrower now though...

Ding yourselves to 8, and prepare your 9th level.

The problem now is:

Left head is not so inclined to pick a fight with you. Friendlier...maybe a little cowardly...

Right head wants to murderhobo you for trespass.

So the issue is that if you want to fight, you can do nothing, otherwise you have to try to support left head, so that right head charges its mind and decides you shouldn't be murderhoboed.

About half-way done updating to 8th level. Still need to pick out 4th level spells and update the headers.

At some point I also have to update my spellbook listing, but that takes quite a while.

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Mort,

How do you handle Int increases with respect to free spells? Should I add two (one from headband and one from level boost), or don't you allow that?

Yes add two.

This sorta occurred to me Re: Suggestion

headed to work, will be back on in a couple of hours, will update level 8 then.

The map looks somewhat like this:

H = Hirah, E= Einar, M = Mr Whiskers, C= Crummock, T= Tiger(Geist), G=Greta, S=Satyr(30 ft in the air), P=Plant, W= Wall, X = Empty space
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WXXW
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WHEW
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WTTW
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I guess something like this?

Of course, not too realistic, but I went to gardens by the bay once, there was an exhibition where the room was almost dark except for some lights over the exhibits, of plants in jars...it was so dark I couldn't take pictures with my phone.

Pics

Just a heads up. Artosa is a rather big dungeon so to speak, and I would be pretty amazed if you could complete it without a break. I'd deem it as the completion of the Iron Man equivalent in Golarion. That being said, I'm not going to be telling you guys when to take breaks, it'll be up to you lot to pace yourselves.

When I hit level 7, I picked up the feat Versatile Summon Monster. It allowed me to pick two templates to assign to creatures. I picked http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/templates/simple-template -aerial-creature-cr-0-or-1/
and
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/templates/simple-template -primordial-creature-cr-0-or-1/

Apologies if I sprung it on you.

This whole thing is begining to feel like pokemon :P Arcanine! I choose you!

I dont know how you can get it to use the SLAs unless you can speak to animals, though :(

Lol I should have gone for the fiery template to make that a reality!

All i need to do now though is summon a Monkey with the Aerial Template and its just like the Wizard of Oz

I don't think I'll use the SLA's much so I'm not worried. Its mostly the +dmg dice increase which is going to be nice on those 1 natural attack creatures there are so many of.

Get the rakes going. You can pounce, bite, claw, claw, grapple and rake, all in a single attack round. Yes, cats are awesome ;)

Relevant text:

Pounce (Ex) When a creature with this special attack makes a charge, it can make a full attack (including rake attacks if the creature also has the rake ability).

I thought about it but I paused when I read

A monster with the rake ability must begin its turn already grappling to use its rake—it can’t begin a grapple and rake in the same turn

Ruling?

Pounce says you can, so you can.

Granted James isn't a rules guy, but I'd still say yes you can. Or pounce should not have been written specifically to include rake.

rake... if einar is declared a monster can he start using monster feats? :)

I've got him updated to level 8, need to pick a language and a spell for level 2.

also is it ok if Einar keeps the + 1 Ranseur?

Updating.

Free spells from increased Int: Animate rope, Detect Secret Doors

Free spells from leveling: Remove Curse, Shout

No. PCs cannot take monster feats. Heck, even Greta can't :( And she's closer to Monster then the rest of you...

No. PCs cannot take monster feats. Heck, even Greta can't :( And she's closer to Monster then the rest of you...

She wishes...

Come on. She isn't even a playable race really. Who the heck gets to play as a winterwolf...though the price is like being many many class levels behind the entire party. Again her point buy is somewhat pretty crazy.

Pounce not the kind of thing available to PCs unless:

a) You're a barbarian with beast totem line - Einar - I told you how to get it as a bloodrager already.

b) You're a quadped synthesist

c) You can wildshape, or have a way of getting an ability like wildshape. (You're a caster of some sort, maybe a druid, lunar oracle, shaman, wizard/sorcerer/arcanist, magus..etc).

I'm fine with Einar having the weapon.

Did Greta take the half-plate we found?

Finally catching up to what I said I would do earlier:

Since I have the time, I will be filling my spellbook with more fun stuff and may scribe a few more scrolls. I need to check money and think on what besides Shrink Item I will want.

Added to spellbook:

Scrolls scribed:
Water Breathing, 187.5 gp
Shrink Item, 187.5 gp
Carry Companion, 75 gp
Animate Rope, 12.5 gp

That should be enough.

can Greta wear half plate?

Oops, evidently not!

She traded that out in her archetype for other stuff like skill points.

Lol. Yeah Lorewardens...I'm actually handling Greta's level up. I don't personally feel you guys need any more beatsticks so maybe I'll get to do something funky instead.

Lol. Yeah Lorewardens...I'm actually handling Greta's level up. I don't personally feel you guys need any more beatsticks so maybe I'll get to do something funky instead.

Bard!

(Skalds count as bards too!)

You know how I feel about force multipliers...NPCs are not supposed to do your job for you. Though it's strange that one of my blueprints for Greta was actually archivist bard.

The problem with bard, or any kind of spellcaster was the part of "no hands!" Though bards get it less then most others...most of their spells are V only. Not to mention the 6 HD for winterwolf base makes spellcasting quite meh.

So RP wise she wouldn't be thinking of getting any kind of spellcasting.

Finished Book 4 prep.