Reign of Winter (Inactive)

Game Master Just a Mort

Sorry, missed your query earlier, Einar.

Once you have the book you can enter the hut without triggering his geas and you can free him.

But until then, its KoS(Kill on Sight) if he sees you enter the Hut.

If you killed him, he stays dead. Unfortunately.

He also can be knocked out, tied up, turned to stone...whatever else you can think off, as per normal.

I will warn you with regards to tying up since his cmb is pretty decent.

He just doesn't need to eat, drink or rest, while he's under the geas.

He still needs to bath!

I hadn't understood that the book would allow us entrance without triggering. That puts it much higher on my list to avoid killing him. He is protecting the hut from a nation that has probable reason to dislike Baba Yaga.

If we think we can afford more than one day, I can scribe scrolls. How many tongue scrolls do we need? If we can find a single NPC that would be willing to travel and work as a reliable translator, I can grant them any language I know by creating a scroll of Share Language.

Take as long as you like(well, up to a week), just state how many days, tick off your rations. I dunno what Hirah and Einar are going to do for those days, but other then boredom, no harm done.

Greta will happily read in the library, while Crummock can work on his greater hat of disguise.

I rather hold of the bathing scene for a while until you decide what you want to do with Ratibor.

I'll tell you if you sneak in invis, he will try to move around to find the invisible bugger(since he can see the door open), whack the square once, but if you manage to get past he'll just mutter something uncomplimentary about wizardy and witchcraft, and slam the door shut.

If you want to DD into the hut, you can, not a problem.

I've been thinking about replying to Mister Whiskers discussion of a plan, I may post today or wait for more discussion as to what we are doing.

Mister whiskers, did you say that you were going to write a couple of see invisibility scrolls? I know there are a ton of spells that might be nice to have on scrolls, I'm just not sure what they are, or what everyone would want. I like the idea of being able to see what we are fighting, whether it's due to invisibility or magical darkness.

All of you nubs have darkvision...its supernatural darkness that's going to be a pain. Fine, lets deal with the bath issue.

Any night watches? =)

See invis is personal only, so you can't cast it on others. Unless alchemist/investigator infusion.

We fine for invis I think - remember, I offered to pick up Invis Purge and everyone said it was ok going without.

Also GM, I don't see much value out of Ranged Feint vs Scout archtype. You only get to throw one bomb per round anyway unless you have Fast Bombs, and I haven't found a way to make that workable on that rogue build (and your bombs per day are pretty bad idk its worth it even if you get it).

I would feel more comfortable if we had a night watch. We have a prankster house spirit and are in the house of a powerful magic user who keeps some very dangerous things.

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I have three See Invisibility scrolls currently, two of them I scribed.

Thinking about it, I should spread them out some. I believe that Einar and Hirah both have it on their spell list and can use the scroll without issue. So, shall I give you one each?

Sounds like we have time, so I would like two days for scribing. That will allow me to create a scroll of tongues, share language, and a couple of others.

I tend to go for scrolls and wands of defensive or utility spells. Comprehend Languages, Endure Elements, water breathing, that sort of stuff. I've gotten spoiled by Pathfinder Society play, having to actually buy or craft the items is a little different.

Okie - anything you want to do regarding Ratibor? Or just leave him be, figure out how to get into the hut later?

That's a valid choice too...

I may have missed some options, but I think our choices for dealing with Ratibor are:
1. Get the book, release him from the geas
2. Get the book, use that to safely re-enter. Never release him.
3. Trick our way back into the hut -- via invisibility or other means
4. Kill him while he performs his duty when we return
5. Kill him before leaving
6. Kill him via trickery, either before or after

I've pretty much listed them from nicest to nastiest.

What options did I miss?

I prefer working from the top of the list down, never getting below option 4.

Yeah that's about it.

Not really there's called bewitching him as well.

Yeah that's about it.

Not really there's called bewitching him as well.

That fits under trickery, and I don't have that spell at the moment.

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Since combat has broken out, you will have to tell me where I was as far as crafting.

I assume I have finished the scroll with Tongues on it the previous day.

I would have been working on Share Language first (since I don't have a scroll of that), then Protection from Evil. Since it uses up spell slots for the day, I need to know how far I got.

Would it be alright to assume the following for spells prepared?
. . 3rd (4/day)—fly fireball, haste
. . 2nd (5/day)—cat's grace Share Language, glitterdust (DC 17), scorching ray
. . 1st (6/day)—burning hands (DC 16), feather fall Protection from Evil, grease, magic missile, vanish[APG] (DC 16)
. . 0 (at will)—acid splash, daze (DC 15), detect magic, disrupt undead, mage hand, prestidigitation, read magic

Like normal, Mage Armor was from the runestone.

Thanks!

All your scrolls are done, you guys were about to settle for dinner.

I would feel more comfortable if we had a night watch...

I have three See Invisibility scrolls currently, two of them I scribed... I believe that Einar and Hirah both have it on their spell list and can use the scroll without issue...

I'm good with a normal night watch, I did not put it on Einars list since we can use scrolls, shouldn't he still be able to read it?

Yes, both Einar and Hirah can use See Invisibility without a caster level check. Technically I think you may need to use Read Magic or do a Spellcraft roll to understand them first.

Spells known is what you can cast.

The spell list is the list of all spells it is possible for your class to learn to cast. That is what is used when trying to deal with spell trigger or spell completion items such as scrolls and wands.

You can't aid another on UMD but guidance does the same trick anyway.

If the group comes to a decision on destination, I'm fine with having the UMD rolls botted.

Regardless, Mr. Whiskers is going to make sure all his stuff is packed and he can leave in short order.

As for the dropped bauble:
* If small, ask Ratibor about creatures like Nivean going out and coming back in the window.
* If larger, hook it with a grapnel?
* If moderate size and within 25', use up my own scroll of Unseen Servant.

I'm sure there are other possible solutions.

Bauble is 1 lb, unfortunately the oath will not allow even Nivean going in and out.

It's 60 ft away...

ok, glad we are moving will retcon a post soon...

I was hoping more people to chime in instead of it being a Mr Whiskers show to be honest.

And it looks like we're missing out lewt!(Bauble).

Or granted, there are ways to get it...but need some creativity.

Locations:

Hoofwood - hide the hut, Centaurs
Artosa - Found at back of amulet?
Vurnirn - City?

Like I said, I don't know how much help Einar could have been, I will retcon some but he got the hut started, will try and get the bauble ;)

I can summon something to pick it up, if we really want to waste a use per day on it.

hey that was the idea I was going to recommend, I guess it depends on how nice the bauble is, and we'll only know if we get it! Have the summoned one pass it to you through the window so the door guard doesn't get his underwear in a bunch.

You have pretty much lots of time in this, so summon away. Remember this is the 2nd day so everything has been reset. I will appreciate it if you can tell me which destination you want so we can get moving.

moving? hhhmmm....

It's noon, decide what ye guys want to do. Wait till night if you want, but the entrance is not to be found at the base. You will still need to climb up eventually.

Also, decisions time. Greta in Winterwolf form, or human form. If she is to take human form, someone needs to pass her weapons and armor.

Just so party can make an informed choice:

Greta in winterwolf form

Female winter wolf lorewarden 1
AC 18, touch 11, flat-footed 16; Speed 50 ft.;
Hp 67(7HD, 6d10+10+29)
Fort +11, Ref +7, Will +4
Melee bite +10 (1d8+6 plus 1d6 cold and trip); Space 10 ft.; Reach 5 ft.;
Special Attacks breath weapon (6d6 cold, ref 17 halves usable every 1d4 rounds);
CMB +12; CMD 24 (28 vs. trip);
STATISTICS Str 18, Dex 14, Con 18, Int 13, Wis 15, Cha 14

Feats Improved Initiative, Power Attack, Combat Reflexes, Skill Focus (Perception), Narrow frame

Skills
Linguistics +5, Perception +12, Sense Motive +6, Stealth +8(+14 in snow),Survival +8, Profession (Guard)+6, Profession (cook) +6, Knowledge local +5, Knowledge Geography +5, knowledge Engineering +5, Knowledge religion +5, Knowledge planes +5, Knowledge arcana +5, knowledge nature +5, knowledge dungeoneering +5, knowledge nobility +5, knowledge history +5, intimidate +6, Escape artist +3

Gear
Signal whistle, pathfinder chronicles for all knowledges, one potion of CMW, saddle bags

Greta in Human form via Greater Hat of Disguise

Female winter wolf lorewarden 1
AC 15, touch 13, flat-footed 12; Speed 30 ft.;
Hp 60(7HD, 6d10+10+22)
Fort +10, Ref +8, Will +4
Melee MW Glaive +11 (1d10+4);
Space 5 ft.; Reach 10 ft.;
CMB +10; CMD 23
STATISTICS Str 16, Dex 16, Con 16, Int 13, Wis 15, Cha 14
Base Atk +7

Feats Improved Initiative, Power Attack, Combat Reflexes, Skill Focus (Perception), Narrow frame

Skills
Linguistics +5, Perception +12, Sense Motive +6, Stealth +8(+14 in snow),Survival +8, Profession (Guard)+6, Profession (cook) +6, Knowledge local +5, Knowledge Geography +5, knowledge Engineering +5, Knowledge religion +5, Knowledge planes +5, Knowledge arcana +5, knowledge nature +5, knowledge dungeoneering +5, knowledge nobility +5, knowledge history +5, intimidate +6, Escape artist +3

Gear
Signal whistle, pathfinder chronicles for all knowledges, one potion of CMW, saddle bags

For getting up the cliff, human form.

After that, probably wolf. Much better mobility and AC, trip is nice. Mr. Whiskers would say whichever form she feels most comfortable fighting in.

Are you sure the trip CMD is correct for human form? As far as I know, she wouldn't have four legs in that form. :)

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Since I have the time, I will be filling my spellbook with more fun stuff and may scribe a few more scrolls. I need to check money and think on what besides Shrink Item I will want.

I think so...10 + BAB(7) + Str mod(3) + dex mod (3), right?

From an optimisation perspective:

When outside, I would wolf form.

When inside dungeons, human form (since Narrow Frame just makes it easier to squeeze through areas; it doesn't actually allow you to 'choose' to take up less space. Consequently, in the narrow confines of a dungeon/large building, being medium would, tactically, be the better option, since she is less likely to either block the rest of the party, or be unable to get into combat. Especially since now that Geist is large, we already have one large creature clogging up the tactical map.).

From an 'in character' perspective:

Greta is a free spirit - she should adopt whatever form she wants (which probably means 'human' as much as possible).

Narrow frame lets you take squeeze without penalty.

When a Large creature (which normally takes up four squares) squeezes into a space that’s one square wide, the creature’s miniature figure occupies two squares - so you occupy less space really. I.e (10x5)

She's also pragmatic in the sense that she knows she is going into dangerous territory and doesn't want to get herself killed.

Lounging around as a human is awesome, but really - in a dungeon do you get to lounge around?

She will probably wolf form in whatever place that is dangerous, since it gives her greater survivability - AC bonuses, better hp and all.

It will also affect her next level feats - If she spends more time in human form - she will take Phalanx formation when she levels. If more time as wolf form, Improved Trip - (so as to get greater trip).

GM Perspective: If you want to occupy less space...there's such a thing of riding you know...

I think so...10 + BAB(7) + Str mod(3) + dex mod (3), right?

Yes, that looks correct.

I could have sworn it gave a different value for trip in human form as well -- CMD XX (XX+4 vs. trip). My apologies, evidently I was reading too quickly again.

I did edit the post at some point because I realized the values were wrong.

*Goes off muttering maths is not her strong suit....*

*Maths eats the thoughts out of your brain...*

I don't mind carrying here gear for her outside, but we need to get her some...Einar gave his breastplate and old sword to Timmy, he can spare a pole arm or the mace.

It's not like there isn't some fine gear right there in front of your door... Just sayin'

I didn't say kill him, We could knock him unconscious and take his stuff, it would certainly make him easier to fight if we need to...

Greta can't use a breastplate. Lorewardens don't get medium armor proficiency.

All martial weapons are welcome, though.

Also, go prepare your 8th level. Coming soon!

A man who smells like he hasn’t bathed in a while, in iceblue chainmail...

Wasn't sure if it was a chain shirt or if it was blue because it was mitheral...

According to Piecemeal armor a chain shirt is chainmail that doesn't protect the arms or legs, so in theory we could cut it off at the shoulders and waist and it would be a chain shirt...

It's blue because blue is a nice colour ;) And no, I won't allow for piecemeal armor to work that way :D

Think we're just waiting if someone's going to Fly up, or Hirah gets one of her air elementals to do it.

It's blue because blue is a nice colour ;) And no, I won't allow for piecemeal armor to work that way :D

OK Ms. LN GM I think what you mean is: "that you will not allow 'the optional Piecemeal armor rules' to be used in you game." Because, Intrinsically it would seem, that is how the optional rules work.

If we were using that optional rule set.... :)

Is that whar they call "picking a fight with your GM"???

Right. We are NOT using that optional ruleset, then :)

It's going to be a bit confusing when you apply piecemeal to it, because actually his armor is a named piece of armor, say like this.That's the issue.

And stop eyeing his armor greedily. *smacks Einar on nose*

Nice armor! I don't know if it's fact or not, but I would assume cutting up magical armor would ruin the magic quality wouldn't it?

Hey, Einar eyeballs everything greedily...

I think the world explodes when you cut up the magical armor.

TLDR: I have no idea what would happen rule wise, thus I rather not go into that.

I'll get an Air Elemental to do it.

Heck, I could have a medium Air ELemental carry me up at the same time, I bet we need to secure the rope somewhere as well right?

You can - but as I said watch the weight.

Total weight for heavy load is 300 lbs (augment summoning) - you do NOT want to exceed heavy load. Decide if you want air elemental to carry you up/carry rope up or both...actually be very specific about instructions you'll give the elemental. There are consequences.

50 ft hemp rope= 10 lbs.

2600/50= 52.

You need 2600 ft of hemp rope, which you have, but it weighs 520 lbs. That being said, before the cloud came over, the party saw places where the rope could be tied.

So you can either get your elemental to carry you up, and much less rope. Or start carrying half the rope up and tying off.

A rough calculation puts you at 36 lbs for equipmemt load, and 124 lbs(minimum female half orc weight). Total 160 lbs.

If just carrying you, the air elemental can carry 700 feet worth of rope.

Totally unburdened, the air elemental can carry 1500 ft of rope.

We'll just say air elementals know how to tie ropes and can tie ropes for speedier gameplay.

Its probably got time for two trips....

Request completed. Think about the implications =)