Mythic Stuff Mentioned in this AP?


Curtain Call

Scarab Sages

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I do not play PF2 so, therefore, I do not get any of the 2nd Edition APs.

In a thread I posted a few days ago, the second post suggested I take a look at the Curtain Call AP for some information that might shed some light on my question in the OP of that thread.

Since I don't get the 2E APs, I'd rather not spend close to $100 for three AP books if the information Saedar is referring to can be found in just one of them.

Can anyone please let me know which book the information is in so I only have to get the book in which I'm interested?

Thanks.

Paizo Employee Creative Director

Curtain Call is not built to be a mythic Adventure Path, nor does it contain any mythic options for PCs, but does include events and themes that were introduced in War of Immortals, and it does include events and developments that are pretty significant.

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My guess as to what Saedar is referring to is that in the third book, a significant portion of the adventure puts the PCs into direct contact with Norgorber, and they can potentially learn a lot about who he was before he took the test of the Starstone, as well as a bunch of other "how someone becomes a god via the Starstone or via other methods" lore.

Of course, the person who reads the adventure as a reader rather than just playing the adventure as a player gets to learn all this stuff without making skill checks!

Since at the time this adventure was being written and developed the Mythic Rules for 2nd edition were still being worked on and were not in a final shape, we did not include any Mythic content in the adventure, despite the fact that the story itself could have very much been one that leans into mythic tropes. Just... the timing wasn't right.

Scarab Sages

James Jacobs wrote:

Curtain Call is not built to be a mythic Adventure Path, nor does it contain any mythic options for PCs, but does include events and themes that were introduced in War of Immortals, and it does include events and developments that are pretty significant.

PLOT SPOILERS

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Thanks once again, James!

I’ll buy that third book post haste!

Shadow Lodge

James Jacobs wrote:
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WRT the last paragraph, if I recall correctly, the same was true for Reign of Winter?

Paizo Employee Creative Director

zimmerwald1915 wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
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WRT the last paragraph, if I recall correctly, the same was true for Reign of Winter?

Nope. Reign of Winter was, arguably, the most specifically and perfectly timed Adventure Path in 1st edition, considering the fact that it was the only 1E Adventure Path that had to happen in a specific year.

Shadow Lodge

James Jacobs wrote:
zimmerwald1915 wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
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WRT the last paragraph, if I recall correctly, the same was true for Reign of Winter?
Nope. Reign of Winter was, arguably, the most specifically and perfectly timed Adventure Path in 1st edition, considering the fact that it was the only 1E Adventure Path that had to happen in a specific year.

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I meant more in the sense of "campaign could've been mythic, but Mythic Adventures wasn't out in time to do more than give Baba Yaga tiers."

Upon checking, it appears Rasputin Must Die!'s writer said something similar.

Paizo Employee Creative Director

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zimmerwald1915 wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
zimmerwald1915 wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
** spoiler omitted **
WRT the last paragraph, if I recall correctly, the same was true for Reign of Winter?
Nope. Reign of Winter was, arguably, the most specifically and perfectly timed Adventure Path in 1st edition, considering the fact that it was the only 1E Adventure Path that had to happen in a specific year.
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Ah, yup. But in hindsight, I quantify this as a lucky break, since I don't think making Reign of Winter a mythic Adventure Path would have been supportive of my long term mental health. Wrath of the Righteous is more than capable of filling that role in my memories! :-P


I think given how rapidly the power level ramps in 1e Mythic, a lot of Reign of Winter books 5 and 6 would have needed to be extensively rewritten to accommodate mythic, unless we did something like "mythic tiers accumulate much slower" so the PCs were like Mythic Tier 2 at the end, which might not have been worth implementing a whole subsystem. Like considering what the WotR party did to Baphomet and Deskari, I would have felt bad for Elvanna facing off against something like that.

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