The new archetype available from the Wardens of Wildwood, "Verduran Shadow" has a feat that is literally useless for a minimum of 2 levels
Verduran Ambush is a level 6 feat, 3 action ability that says "You Ready an activity that takes 2 actions, though that activity must either be Death from Above or an activity with the requirement that you be hidden or undetected by all your opponents (such as Scout’s Pounce)."
both Death from Above and Scout's Pounce are feats that come LATER in the archetype (Lvls 8 and 10 respectively).
So best case scenario, you were lucky enough to have a game that uses Free Archetype, and you pick this feat up at level 6 without wasting your level 6 class feat, and then in 2 more levels you can use it.
The feat itself seems super useful... but the level you gain it at makes absolutely no sense.
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Scout's Pounce is an example, you can use Verduran Shadow with any activity that asks you to be hidden or undetected. Now, I don't know the list of such activities so I can't tell you if some are available at level 6.
Scout's Pounce is an example, you can use Verduran Shadow with any activity that asks you to be hidden or undetected. Now, I don't know the list of such activities so I can't tell you if some are available at level 6.
The problem is, in order for this to be useful, any ability that meets those requirements would need to be level 4 or lower, assuming you took the Dedication at 2, then this feat at 6. The closest thing I have found is Startling Appearance from the Vigilante archetype. Unfortunately, that would require taking an entire second archetype, and Startling Appearance is already only 1 action, allowing for it to be readied by default.
It feels like Death from Above should have been the level 6 feat, with Verduran Ambush set at level 8, thus allowing a natural progression of getting Death from Above, then at higher level being able to Ready that action (something normally unavailable).
There are no rogue or ranger feats with that requirement?
There are no rogue or ranger feats with that requirement?
I think Underhanded Assault might qualify? Two actin Activity that requires that you Sneak, but it doesn't technically need you to be "hidden or undetected by all your opponents".
Other than that one though, no. But there may be something in some Ancestry Feats?
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Well, it may not be useful... yet. But in the future, there may be activities asking for that. But I understand the feeling of having to take a feat before it gets useful. It's not an excellent design, even if it is not technically a dead feat.
There are no rogue or ranger feats with that requirement?I found only this: Ambushing Knockdown There are some things in way of the sniper, but they are even less alike.
Aaand... it's 8th lvl.
On the bright side, being able to use that one as a readied action could be pretty funny.
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Archetypes in AP toolboxes are notoriously prone to questionable abilities. I dont think we have formal Errata yet for 6th pillar yet either. At least this is a very useful ability, just not at the level you can get it.
EDIT: I would not personally count on any official correction.
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Archetypes in AP toolboxes are notoriously prone to questionable abilities. I dont think we have formal Errata yet for 6th pillar yet either. At least this is a very useful ability, just not at the level you can get it.
EDIT: I would not personally count on any official correction.
Sixth Pillar was updated, but only when they did the single-book re-release of Ruby Phoenix. So there isn't an entry on the FAQ/Errata page.
Sixth Pillar was updated, but only when they did the single-book re-release of Ruby Phoenix. So there isn't an entry on the FAQ/Errata page.Archetypes in AP toolboxes are notoriously prone to questionable abilities. I dont think we have formal Errata yet for 6th pillar yet either. At least this is a very useful ability, just not at the level you can get it.
EDIT: I would not personally count on any official correction.
Secret Errata. Gotta love it. (it's also unfortunately kind of bad errata too but alas).
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Basically... it's janky but usable. It's just that it becomes available two levels before you can use it, rather than two levels after. That's not the worst jank we've seen out of AP stuff. It also doesn't break anything. Pretty sure it's here to stay.
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Man I don't think Sixth Pillar needed the nerf personally. It was silly and did nothing but give Sorcerers the ability to use Dragon Claw Focus Spell useful at higher levels!