Currently playing a fighter with oracle dedication (godclaw hellknight), looking to branch out to cleric dedication when i'll be able to. Considering the new anathema and edicts system that replaces alignment, can I select Iomedae or a similarly good\neutral deity as long as my PC does not violate its anathema and follows its edicts?
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As you are not Lawful Evil, such designations no longer existing, and as the Godglaw already follow Iomedae as one of their pentad of deities, I would think this should be fine.
However, the official response may come in Divine Mysteries coming in November when they'll redo Gods and Magic for the remaster and add content probably including how existing deities and pantheons such as the Godclaw allow sanctification.
I would assume they would allow sanctification to either holy or unholy given their divine patrons encompass the specrtrum from "must be sanctified holy" (Iomedae) to "must be sanctified unholy" (Asmodeus).
The official rules don't have a mix of both pre-Remaster and Remaster content.
Pre-Remaster, you can have a LE character, but there is no Sanctification mechanic.
Remaster you have the Sanctification mechanics, but if you still have the LE designation on your character, it is for flavor and character description only - there are no mechanics tied to it. So having that alignment isn't going to prevent Sanctification.
The official rules don't have a mix of both pre-Remaster and Remaster content.
Pre-Remaster, you can have a LE character, but there is no Sanctification mechanic.
Remaster you have the Sanctification mechanics, but if you still have the LE designation on your character, it is for flavor and character description only - there are no mechanics tied to it. So having that alignment isn't going to prevent Sanctification.
The Sanctification feature says:
Sanctification
Depending on your deity, their sanctification can make you holy or unholy. This gives you the holy or unholy trait, which commits you to one side of a struggle over the souls of the planes and may be referenced in other abilities. If you “can be” holy or unholy according to your deity, you make that choice, and if you “must be” holy or unholy you gain the trait automatically. If you gain the opposing trait in some way, you lose the previous trait until you complete an atone ritual.
Is there any guidelines on how a holy or unholy PC should act? Can a holy PC be selfish or not nice, as long as that does not violate their deities anathema?
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Becoming Holy Sanctified means dedicating yourself to benevolence and Virtue, and opposing unholy things, generally, but there isn't really anything in the way of actual mechanical definitions for how a holy or unholy character must act. One may well imagine that basic tenets of holy sanctification echo the "do not murder, do not harm innocents" of the tenets of good, but I think the specifics are mostly left up to role-playing considerations. Like, even if it's not specifically against Iomedae's anathema to murder somebody, it's unlikely it would be something she's cool with. Holy just means on top of that you're also devoted to the war of good vs evil
Thanks for this question. Funniest thing I've seen all day.
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So, your character is Lawful Evil and you want to be a Cleric of Iomedae and become Sanctified as such (as Iomedae forces sanctification)?
Without being as sarcastic as Gortle, there's an obvious issue in your line of thought.
So, your character is Lawful Evil and you want to be a Cleric of Iomedae and become Sanctified as such (as Iomedae forces sanctification)?
Without being as sarcastic as Gortle, there's an obvious issue in your line of thought.
I'm asking if its possible by the rules. I do recognize the issue of ideological divide between Iomedae and the character, although he acts a dutiful knight and leader, he has no qualms about torture, taking prisoners as slaves, or extorting political opponents and dissidents "for the greater good of the kingdom".
I probably will not take Iomedae, but wow, IS it hard to get true strike on a divine caster with Gorum now gone.
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So, your character is Lawful Evil and you want to be a Cleric of Iomedae and become Sanctified as such (as Iomedae forces sanctification)?
Without being as sarcastic as Gortle, there's an obvious issue in your line of thought.
I'm asking if its possible by the rules. I do recognize the issue of ideological divide between Iomedae and the character, although he acts a dutiful knight and leader, he has no qualms about torture, taking prisoners as slaves, or extorting political opponents and dissidents "for the greater good of the kingdom".
I probably will not take Iomedae, but wow, IS it hard to get true strike on a divine caster with Gorum now gone.
It isn't possible by the rules because LE doesn't exist anymore. Even setting that aside, it isn't really about how you present yourself in a social sense. You can't trick your god into thinking you believe one thing but do another.
You could certainly worship Iomedae as that kind of person, but I find it unlikely she would ever accept such a character as a cleric or champion she empowers. Unless that happens to be a story your table wants to explore, then go nuts.
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I'm asking if its possible by the rules. I do recognize the issue of ideological divide between Iomedae and the character, although he acts a dutiful knight and leader, he has no qualms about torture, taking prisoners as slaves, or extorting political opponents and dissidents "for the greater good of the kingdom".
I probably will not take Iomedae, but wow, IS it hard to get true strike on a divine caster with Gorum now gone.
This kind of choices are outside the rules, it's between your GM and you. Now, a story of redemption is a nice one to hear. But keeping the same "character", not on character sheet but in behavior, is a hard sell to get powers from Iomedae. Really hard sell. I'd be your GM, I'd consider the redemption arc as the only possible one.
Iomedae (the remastered version) which doesn't care about LE (since that doesn't exist anymore) but does require sanctification also can't get you true strike, since that spell doesn't exist in the remaster. It looks like we're looking at a legacy character trying to dip into remastered rules to access legacy content.
But Erastil gives Sure Strike, as will Achaekek, Eiseth, General Susumu, Raunya, and Yaezhing (all formerly evil) once they get write-ups in the remaster rules.
Iomedae (the remastered version) which doesn't care about LE (since that doesn't exist anymore) but does require sanctification also can't get you true strike, since that spell doesn't exist in the remaster.
It has been replaced by Sure Strike, and remastered Iomedae gives access to it.