
GuitarGuyNick |
so I read from seeing the foundry update as to how they are handling the remaster.
and because there has been a lack of clarification on the original exisiting feats that belong to tiefling and assimir. It is not clear that they fall under the new nephilim ancestry.
Could we have someone from paizo clarify this as there hasnt been clarification foundry sees them as older "legacy" feats. which means they are left out of the remaster.
One of my players cant choose them because of the remaster which makes his character build invalid.
I would like to understand if these feats can be used by nephilims or are they scrapped?

Finoan |
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Could we have someone from paizo clarify this as there hasnt been clarification foundry sees them as older "legacy" feats. which means they are left out of the remaster.
I would like to understand if these feats can be used by nephilims or are they scrapped?
I'm not sure that it is Paizo's call.
How much of the pre-Remaster to use in a post-Remaster build is up to the table playing.
PFS made their decisions for things like 'can you use pre-Remaster cantrips that add ability modifier bonus damage' (I think so, yes - as long as the spell wasn't reprinted with the same name. Otherwise the post-Remaster reprint takes priority). But that is a decision that each table is going to have to make.
So... same with ancestry feats. If the original feat was printed for an ancestry that technically doesn't exist, but a successor ancestry does exist - but that successor ancestry doesn't have that same feat printed... That is a scenario that only the table playing can make the call on.
If the app doesn't allow the players at the table to make the call and allow the interaction, then that is something to take up with the app developers.

GuitarGuyNick |
GuitarGuyNick wrote:Could we have someone from paizo clarify this as there hasnt been clarification foundry sees them as older "legacy" feats. which means they are left out of the remaster.
I would like to understand if these feats can be used by nephilims or are they scrapped?
I'm not sure that it is Paizo's call.
How much of the pre-Remaster to use in a post-Remaster build is up to the table playing.
PFS made their decisions for things like 'can you use pre-Remaster cantrips that add ability modifier bonus damage' (I think so, yes - as long as the spell wasn't reprinted with the same name. Otherwise the post-Remaster reprint takes priority). But that is a decision that each table is going to have to make.
So... same with ancestry feats. If the original feat was printed for an ancestry that technically doesn't exist, but a successor ancestry does exist - but that successor ancestry doesn't have that same feat printed... That is a scenario that only the table playing can make the call on.
they have said when they get the go ahead to move them from the legacy feats into the remaster they will but they need paizos blessing.
If the app doesn't allow the players at the table to make the call and allow the interaction, then that is something to take up with the app developers.

Finoan |
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they have said when they get the go ahead to move them from the legacy feats into the remaster they will but they need paizos blessing.
Well, the way I see it - if the First Rule and the intent of the Remaster project isn't blessing enough, then I don't know what is.
A plugin module to add, or a checkbox option to enable the non-reprinted feats from what turned into the Nephilim ancestry shouldn't be too hard from a technical standpoint. Then the players can decide to add/enable them or not.

Kelseus |
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I mean, as a quick glance at the Aasimar feats, most of them are already in PC1. The only ones I don't see replicated are the niche liniage feats from the Ancestry guide (Emberkin, Ibyllkin) and the feats with them as a prerequisite.
The only other ones not reproduced or replaced is Celestial Resistance, Healer's Halo, Celestial Strikes and Radiate Glory.
Except for Celestial Resistance, all of these feats are from the Ancestry Guide. There is no reason they can't be used as printed, with very minor modifications (not proficient in Sylvan, but Fey, etc.).
Except for an Errata pass to change to new spell names, I wouldn't expect there to be significant reprints of contents of Lost Omens books like the Ancestry Guide.

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I mean, as a quick glance at the Aasimar feats, most of them are already in PC1. The only ones I don't see replicated are the niche liniage feats from the Ancestry guide (Emberkin, Ibyllkin) and the feats with them as a prerequisite.
The only other ones not reproduced or replaced is Celestial Resistance, Healer's Halo, Celestial Strikes and Radiate Glory.
Except for Celestial Resistance, all of these feats are from the Ancestry Guide. There is no reason they can't be used as printed, with very minor modifications (not proficient in Sylvan, but Fey, etc.).
Except for an Errata pass to change to new spell names, I wouldn't expect there to be significant reprints of contents of Lost Omens books like the Ancestry Guide.
FYI, for what it is worth, PFS called out Celestial Strikes and Fiendish Strikes as no longer legal for play.

Finoan |
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FYI, for what it is worth, PFS called out Celestial Strikes and Fiendish Strikes as no longer legal for play.
Probably because all they do is deal an invalid damage type, not because of any questions about what ancestry is allowed to take the feats. Or a blanket ban on ancestry feats from non-Remastered books.

Kelseus |

FYI, for what it is worth, PFS called out Celestial Strikes and Fiendish Strikes as no longer legal for play.
PFS is its own thing. At any other table you just switch it to 1 spirit and holy sanctification instead of good.
Also I misspoke, celestial resistance is in PC1 as Nephilim resistance.

Chrono |
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I mean, as a quick glance at the Aasimar feats, most of them are already in PC1. The only ones I don't see replicated are the niche liniage feats from the Ancestry guide (Emberkin, Ibyllkin) and the feats with them as a prerequisite.
The only other ones not reproduced or replaced is Celestial Resistance, Healer's Halo, Celestial Strikes and Radiate Glory.
Except for Celestial Resistance, all of these feats are from the Ancestry Guide. There is no reason they can't be used as printed, with very minor modifications (not proficient in Sylvan, but Fey, etc.).
Except for an Errata pass to change to new spell names, I wouldn't expect there to be significant reprints of contents of Lost Omens books like the Ancestry Guide.
It's actually super important to note - Player Core only covers the CRB and APG. The Ancestry Guide and Lost Omens are not covered by it, and all the missing feats are from Ancestry Guide or Lost Omens. I'd expect errata just changing the missing feats to Nephilim instead of Aasimar, and adding the celestial lineage requirement to them. If no errata, then that's what should be done.
Same for Tiefling.