Hello, I’m curious to know whether Camazotz still canon?
A few years ago, through a previous pathfinder society account (whose access I seem to have lost) I ‘cut my teeth’ so to speak as a GM on a number of pathfinder society scenarios one of which was “Dead Man’s Debt” of 2016’s Year of the Serpent.
I was rather fond of the scenario as it was my first introduction to the Mwangi Expanse.
*spoilers*
I don’t want to give spoilers for the scenario but as it occurred almost a decade ago, I’m gonna go ahead. The adventure featured Camazotz as an early threat to the Elves there and Jatembe- but the demon lord hasn’t had much by way of any references in any adventures or scenarios since.
What happened to him? Could we follow up with this plot? Is he even still canon?
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There is no mention of Camazotz in Lost Omens Mwangi Expanse or Gods and Magic.
I am not familiar with the scenario you reference, but there does seem to be some references to planar gates and demon worship in Mwangi Expanse.
Ekujae also guard many places of great power or dormant evil, places they have little desire for reckless adventurers or sinister forces to uncover.
For all their love of scholarship and artistry, Ekujae are a people at war, and much of their society functions around this cold fact. Even if the Great Darkness should never rise again, unnatural menaces still plague the Mwangi Jungle, and Ekujae lands host shrines to ancient demons and worse.
I suspect if there is anything like what you are looking for, it is found in the book Lost Omens: Mwangi Expanse. I only did the most cursory of searches through the book.
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It seems like Arcadia is more of a natural spot for Camazotz than the Mwangi Expanse, what with Camazotz being a thing from Mayan mythology. The Darklands do stretch all over, but we haven done much with them in a while.
Yup! But my question still remains as the most recent adventure/scenario featuring him was Dead Man’s Debt.
Also- while I agree that Arcadia is more of a natural fit, they established in the scenario that Camazotz has a presence in the Mwangi. I didn’t write the scenario obviously but my hunch is that it was written at a time when the Mwangi’s original, real world inspiration sources included parts of Central and South America. While I think it’s more coherent to keep the place African inspired- I do hope that one lil shrine to Camazotz I. Dead Man’s Debt remains canon.
I agree with @BretI that the pf2 lore doesn’t preclude previous canon, so maybe nothing’s changed?
From the Pathfinder Wiki
Camazotz
The wiki article references the final volume of the Second Darkness AP Descent Into MidnightCamazotz dwells in three different places in both Golarion and the Great Beyond. The first is the Abyssal realm of Argahoz, a cavernous realm dominated by an enormous pit.
The second is the Land of the Eleven Deaths, a Darklands realm beneath the distant continent of Arcadia; while the third is the House of the Bat in the realm of death, Xibalba.
Isn’t Descent into Midnight older than Year of the Serpent- and of questionable canonization with the advent of the core?
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Camazotz may have come to the Expanse with the traders who founded Senghor. At least that's how I'd explain it until/unless we get a canon explanation.
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I thought Camazotz was dead this whole time. Wasn't he the patron of invidiaks and got offed by Nocticula?
I think you're thinking of Vyriavaxus, the former demon lord of darkness and shadow demons who was slain by Nocticula so that she could gain control of said shadow demons (invidiaks). Due to similarity in appearance, AoC/portfolio, & proximity in the Abyss, it's said that Camazotz may have been his sire (parent)...
Carry on!
--C.
Maybe Camazotz eats the sun?
Run, don’t walk Sarenrae!!
Yes, Camazotz is still part of the setting. Camazotz might be making an appearance in the future. :)
Hah! Shades of Blood it is!