Strange question about Tengu (warning!) from player. Any lore mentions?


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So my player with whom I will be starting Gatewalkers wanted to play Tengu Bard and he asked me if Tengu , being humanoid brids have genitals or they have cloacas.

Now, I don't myself find this question wierd (if you want to roleplay a race, you may want to know more about it, I understand that, especially when it comes to maybe some cross-species romance adventures of PC) but I honestly don't know. I am really new to Gloarion and Pathfinder lore so I have no idea. I only know that Tengu are born from eggs reading about them on PF wiki. But I don't know how otherwise humanoid they are.

Anything in official lore?


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Pathfinder lore doesn’t often have anything to say about genitals - that’ll be a table decision.


keftiu wrote:
Pathfinder lore doesn’t often have anything to say about genitals - that’ll be a table decision.

Well, I dont expect direct quote but you know, maybe some books/novels mentioned a Tengu sleeping with other ancestry member, which would suggest one way or another. I don't know, never read anything from Pathfinder.

Like I don't feel comfortable making that "rulling" so if there would be any lore to take it out of me, I would appreciate that :)


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Answered by James Jacobs in 2015: Ask James Jacobs ALL your Questions.

They reproduce like birds (lay eggs), have beaks, and feathers but otherwise have humanoids traits. They don't feed chicks like bird, and if they do they keep it private.


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Kyle_TheBuilder wrote:
Like I don't feel comfortable making that "rulling" so if there would be any lore to take it out of me, I would appreciate that :)

Stepping back from your precise question, I'm wondering what else about this player and their character might be making you uncomfortable. Have you had a discussion about lines, veils, and other agreements around sexuality for the table?

The GM has as much input as anyone else about telling stories that make them uncomfortable. If you aren't comfortable with this ruling, what other spur-of-the-moment rulings might you be faced with when adjudicating this character's interactions with NPCs and other elements of the story?


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In general, among terran animals, if you're producing eggs in a birdlike way, a cloaca is the way to do it.

Paizo is not going to give you this answer under any circumstances, but if you don't want to be the one to make that call on your own authority, it should be based on whether they're egg-layers or live birth.


Dancing Wind wrote:
Kyle_TheBuilder wrote:
Like I don't feel comfortable making that "rulling" so if there would be any lore to take it out of me, I would appreciate that :)

Stepping back from your precise question, I'm wondering what else about this player and their character might be making you uncomfortable. Have you had a discussion about lines, veils, and other agreements around sexuality for the table?

The GM has as much input as anyone else about telling stories that make them uncomfortable. If you aren't comfortable with this ruling, what other spur-of-the-moment rulings might you be faced with when adjudicating this character's interactions with NPCs and other elements of the story?

lol, no, no. Don't make such conclusions, jeez. It's a friend of mine, he is not wierd or anything. It was a legit question. It was just strange, becasue I never thought about that (believe it or not in my 2 decades of TTRPGs nobody ever played a humanoid bird race) and I had a little brain freeze as it opened a lot of question. Don't jump onto my players please. I just want to know if lore says something about that and that's it. Sex stuff in TTRPGs is no issue for us, we are all adults at table. It was just something nobody ever thought of.


Temperans wrote:

Answered by James Jacobs in 2015: Ask James Jacobs ALL your Questions.

They reproduce like birds (lay eggs), have beaks, and feathers but otherwise have humanoids traits. They don't feed chicks like bird, and if they do they keep it private.

Hm, I guess If that will be the closest one I can get, I will go with more bird features.

Thanks for finding that btw.


Kyle_TheBuilder wrote:
Temperans wrote:

Answered by James Jacobs in 2015: Ask James Jacobs ALL your Questions.

They reproduce like birds (lay eggs), have beaks, and feathers but otherwise have humanoids traits. They don't feed chicks like bird, and if they do they keep it private.

Hm, I guess If that will be the closest one I can get, I will go with more bird features.

Thanks for finding that btw.

No problem, it was easy. Literally in the Pathfinderwiki entry for them.


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Kyle_TheBuilder wrote:
Temperans wrote:

Answered by James Jacobs in 2015: Ask James Jacobs ALL your Questions.

They reproduce like birds (lay eggs), have beaks, and feathers but otherwise have humanoids traits. They don't feed chicks like bird, and if they do they keep it private.

Hm, I guess If that will be the closest one I can get, I will go with more bird features.

Thanks for finding that btw.

In approximately 3% of bird species the males reproduce using a penis rather than their cloaca. Most famously ducks, but geese, swans, ratites (ostriches, emus, kiwis, and rheas), and the tinamous are other examples.

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We can't have a proper talk about the birds and bees in Pathfinder because we lack a bee ancestry.


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Ashbourne wrote:
We can't have a proper talk about the birds and bees in Pathfinder because we lack a bee ancestry.

There's the bee sprite actually.


I feel like questions about "what are my genitals like" are best handled on a case by case basis at the table.

Like I admit this came up a lot when I was playing a cecaelia in PF1, but I remained coy.

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