What would make a better Loremaster? Arcanist or Sage sorcerer?


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There are benefits for both Arcanist has more options for which metamagic they can get to qualify. But a sage sorcerer can go all in on intelligence and thus have much higher knowledge checks, fitting for the class. So which would be better (And don't just say "Neither, go wizard". You know who you are)


You should consider Psychic's too, they might fit what you want (see this character's profile).


Between arcanist and sage… I’d say Arcanist… with going into a prestige class you really don’t need to put too much focus on Charisma for exploits, several of the more passive exploits are more valuable for this type of build anyways… besides having a spellbook containing a vast repertoire of spell knowledge and the ability to cast any number of them with minimal preparation is totally in line with a loremaster… they aren’t some traditional wizard who can only cast a prepared spell once, nor are they a sorcerer who has limits to how many spells they can learn… no you are a master of knowledge and by extension a master of the art of spellcraft, you have learned the secrets to retaining prepared spell knowledge after casting, you are truly a master of your craft.

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Chell Raighn wrote:
Between arcanist and sage… I’d say Arcanist… with going into a prestige class you really don’t need to put too much focus on Charisma for exploits, several of the more passive exploits are more valuable for this type of build anyways… besides having a spellbook containing a vast repertoire of spell knowledge and the ability to cast any number of them with minimal preparation is totally in line with a loremaster… they aren’t some traditional wizard who can only cast a prepared spell once, nor are they a sorcerer who has limits to how many spells they can learn… no you are a master of knowledge and by extension a master of the art of spellcraft, you have learned the secrets to retaining prepared spell knowledge after casting, you are truly a master of your craft.

Now if that's the case then what archetype would work best? I'm kinda leaning on sword savant but i'm open to other options.


I’m not sure there really is a best archetype for it… Magaambyan Initiate is a good choice for some bonus spell knowledge… White Mage is also decent for the same reason… School Savant can be decent, but losing 3 exploits early on is rough, and 4 opposition schools is not very enticing… Blade Adept can be decent, but it means your going to he a frontline squishy, which is questionable at best… I would absolutely avoid Unlettered though… the witches spell list is just not very good without hexes to support it…


It might be a bit cheesy, but you could take the VMC bard in addition to the prestige class. Lore does say it stacks with bardic knowledge. Since the VMC is based on character that means you would be getting +1 per level from lore master and +1/2 per level for arcanist. This might not fly with all GM’s but RAW it is legal. You also get to take 10 on knowledge skills and once a day take 20. At 20th level that should give you +15 on all knowledge skills. You can use an arcanist exploit to gain one of the metamagic feats so you can still enter loremaster at 8th level.

Silver Crusade

Chell Raighn wrote:
I’m not sure there really is a best archetype for it… Magaambyan Initiate is a good choice for some bonus spell knowledge… White Mage is also decent for the same reason… School Savant can be decent, but losing 3 exploits early on is rough, and 4 opposition schools is not very enticing… Blade Adept can be decent, but it means your going to he a frontline squishy, which is questionable at best… I would absolutely avoid Unlettered though… the witches spell list is just not very good without hexes to support it…

I actually found that the unlettered arcanist can be an incredibly potent divinator/navigator due to them having access to divination spells other arcane classes otherwise would not have.

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