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Style, maybe? I know *I* think theyre cool! :P
More seriously, I could see them being used by someone needing to switch between defensive stuff and a weapon that needs two hands like a bow. I don't think the rules allow you to use those kinds of weapons with just the regular buckler strapped to your arm despite that being how a lot of archers are depicted in historical art, so this is probably the best compromise for now.
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Buckler offers a free hand by default. It just can't be raised while the hand is occupied with a weapon so archers function fine with them, which also sort of diminishes the purpose of the shield bow. Both are stylish though I'd agree.Style, maybe? I know *I* think theyre cool! :P
More seriously, I could see them being used by someone needing to switch between defensive stuff and a weapon that needs two hands like a bow. I don't think the rules allow you to use those kinds of weapons with just the regular buckler strapped to your arm despite that being how a lot of archers are depicted in historical art, so this is probably the best compromise for now.
Really? I thought the rules were more strict about that than they were in 1e?
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Really? I thought the rules were more strict about that than they were in 1e?
There is a little ambiguity in the rules. The buckler description seems to treat the ability to raise a buckler while holding a light, non-weapon object in that hand as a given.
Buckler
This very small shield is a favorite of duelists and quick, lightly armored warriors. It’s typically made of steel and strapped to your forearm. You can Raise a Shield with your buckler as long as you have that hand free or are holding a light object that’s not a weapon in that hand.
But earlier in the shield rules, raising a buckler while holding a light, non-weapon object in that hand is treated as an exception to the default rules and thus requiring GM permission.
A buckler, however, doesn’t take up your hand, so you can Raise a Shield with a buckler if the hand is free (or, at the GM’s discretion, if it’s holding a simple, lightweight object that’s not a weapon). You lose the benefits of Raise a Shield if that hand is no longer free.
Is it really any problem at long as you take your shots before raising the shield?
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Is it really any problem at long as you take your shots before raising the shield?
It can be if your target has some form of Attack of Opportunity.
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You know it's a fantasy game when people think bucklers are something you strap to your arm.
I haven't seen Treasure Valut yet, but by the name Gauntlet buckler, I wonder if it looks like a Lantern shield?
Lantern shield .
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I'm having trouble wrapping my head around this one in TV. What's the practical difference between one of these and just having a regular gauntlet + buckler. Seems like just extra steps with a worse outcome.
Well, you do get to replace two light items with a single, 1-bulk item. ;)
If you expect to tank an opportunity attack, getting that +1 beforehand is better. Only use case I can see for the shield bow really compared to buckler bowIs it really any problem at long as you take your shots before raising the shield?
Another benefit of the shield bow (and it is minor) is that you can Quick Draw out a melee weapon while holding the shield bow in one hand and using it to parry while having your off-hand fully occupied.
Depending on how the item is written it might be cheaper to build if you wanted it made from a special material.
That's true. A buckler and gauntlet are both light bulk items, so each counts as 1 bulk when it comes to the price for special materials.
The buckler gauntlet is a single 1 bulk item, so it would be half the price to make it out of special materials.
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Since it's a specific type of shield, we don't know what the stats would look like for the buckler side. You could maybe go with the printed special material bucklers but it would be guessing. Same goes for the other shields unless there's a special material section I'm missing.Depending on how the item is written it might be cheaper to build if you wanted it made from a special material.That's true. A buckler and gauntlet are both light bulk items, so each counts as 1 bulk when it comes to the price for special materials.
The buckler gauntlet is a single 1 bulk item, so it would be half the price to make it out of special materials.
I'm not clear what you are talking about. We know the bulk for all three items: gauntlet, buckler, and gauntlet buckler.
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I'm saying if you want to make it out of adamantine for instance, we don't have the printed hardness, health, or broken threshold for it.I'm not clear what you are talking about. We know the bulk for all three items: gauntlet, buckler, and gauntlet buckler.Since it's a specific type of shield, we don't know what the stats would look like for the buckler side. You could maybe go with the printed special material bucklers but it would be guessing. Same goes for the other shields unless there's a special material section I'm missing.Depending on how the item is written it might be cheaper to build if you wanted it made from a special material.That's true. A buckler and gauntlet are both light bulk items, so each counts as 1 bulk when it comes to the price for special materials.
The buckler gauntlet is a single 1 bulk item, so it would be half the price to make it out of special materials.
Oh, I see. I thought you were saying that we couldn't compute the cost.
Since the foldaway shield has the same hardness, hit points, and breaking threshold as a regular buckler I'd assume that an adamantine gauntlet buckler would have the same stats as an adamantine buckler would.