The Okayo Corsair has recently taken my fancy, but I am a little bit confused by its Okayo Panache ability (specifically the bit in bold)
An Okayo corsair regains panache only when she confirms a critical hit or makes a killing blow with a light or one-handed weapon from the monk weapon group. Additionally, the Okayo corsair gains the ability to use a light or one-handed monk weapon for her swashbuckler class features, deeds, and feats, even if the weapon is not a piercing weapon, but she can’t use other light or one-handed weapons with her class features or deeds.
Presuming I have the Improved Unarmed Strike, does that mean any of the Dex to Damage feats would now apply to my Unarmed Combat
*I want to use Unarmed Combat, so I can also pick up Pummeling Charge at 8 for pseudo pounce
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fencing and dervish are a no-no since they call out specific weapons (rapier and scimitar) and not talk about piercing light\one handed weapons at all.
slashing grace might be if your unarmed strike count as a slashing weapon. some might allow feats that let you deal slashing weapons with unarmed strike to work with it (i think 'tiger style' allow for slashing unarmed damage?). others would say that YOU can use it with slashing damage, but the WEAPON itself is not one.
so ask gm i guess?
Agreed with ZZA NI, fencing grace and dervish dance are right out.
Slashing grace is a maybe, but my interpretation as a GM is that fist are not a light or one handed slashing weapon, so no.
And to point out further, unarmed strikes are not one handed or light weapons. They sit in a weird place on the chart called "unarmed".
This seems to be one of the instances where the writer thought "people will understand what I mean", and didn't bother to actually write it out. That, or the "feats" part was edited in.
I'm pretty sure the idea is to treat all light or one-handed monk weapons as piercing weapons for feats and class features that require such a weapon, just like what Slashing Grace does (minus the dex-to-damage).
I think this is one of the cases where going by strict RAW breaks the game. Or do you want to explain how your double-chained kama shoots arrows in melee when using Manyshot?
And to point out further, unarmed strikes are not one handed or light weapons. They sit in a weird place on the chart called "unarmed".No?
An unarmed strike is always considered a light weapon.
Fair enough, on the chart they're in a different place but I didn't reread the description.
However, they're still not a slashing weapon.
And even if you deal slashing damage with it, it's still debatable whether or not it qualifies as a slashing weapon.
In the same way that you can use Weapon Versatility to change the damage dealt, doesn't mean that a greatsword is a bludgeoning weapon.
And to point out further, unarmed strikes are not one handed or light weapons. They sit in a weird place on the chart called "unarmed".No?
An unarmed strike is always considered a light weapon.
just to add and fill in the gap.
not just unarmed strike but natural weapons are also considered light weapons. (read the 'Special' line)
If you deal slashing damage with your unarmed strike then you deal slashing damage with your unarmed strike. You might not be able to enchant it like a slashing weapon. But any ability that requires a "slashing weapon" does not care. This is why you can use Shield Brace and Braded Brush with Swasbuckler despite polearms/glaives being 2-handed weapons.
*PS. If you want dex to damage just get Agile on your handwraps or amulet of mighty fists. Alternately just get gauntlets with the training enchantment and Weapon Versatility, now you don't have to deal with any of that.
Disagree. Even though it deals slashing damage, doesn't make it a slashing weapon. The fact that you can't enchant it like a slashing weapon is the give away to me.
Abilities that require a slashing weapon do care whether it is a slashing weapon, and unarmed strikes aren't. In my book you can't use slashing grace with unarmed strikes.
Shield Brace only cares about whether or not you're using a two-hnded weapon (sized appropriately) from the appropriate group and allows you to use a shield with it. It doesn't really have a bearing on Swashbuckler abilities. Not sure why you bring it up. Although using a shield in your offhand (other than a buckler) will mess up some swashbuckler abilities IIRC.
Bladed brush is a big win for swashbuckler since it lets you treat a normally two-handed weapon as a one handed weapon for feats and class abilities. And it pretty explicit about what it does.
But abilities that let you deal slashing damage don't usually include that kind of wording in them. Your unarmed strikes aren't a slashing weapon and don't qualify.
Now that is my opinion. And other GMs might agree or disagree and I'm not going to continue to debate it. Just wanted to point out that as ZZA Ni pointed out, it's going to come down to individual GMs.
