[PF2] "Legal" Deities with Only Evil Followers


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I noticed on Archives of Nethys that some gods are noted as PFS legal but only have evil followers. The PFS rules say, "Characters can worship any Golarion deity so long as their alignment matches one of the deity’s listed follower alignments." Are these exceptions to the rule OR is this a mistake on AoN OR are they technically legal but the religion rules are something separate that override their legality?


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CrystalSeas wrote:
Flagging to be moved to PFS forum.

Sorry, my bad. Didn't think to look at a higher forum level. I was wondering where it went. Thank you.

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AoN doesn't mark things as legal or not legal. It marks things as Standard or Restricted. Deities marked as Standard that only allow evil followers are de facto disallowed because PFS does not allow for evil characters.

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GM OfAnything wrote:
AoN doesn't mark things as legal or not legal. It marks things as Standard or Restricted. Deities marked as Standard that only allow evil followers are de facto disallowed because PFS does not allow for evil characters.

Ah. So what's the difference between restricted and disallowed?

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That's all on the character options page. here

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Standard: These options follow the standard rules as printed in their respective sourcebooks. If a character wants to take this option, they must meet all its prerequisites as usual. If the option is uncommon or rarer, they must also have access to the option.

Limited: A limited option is rarer in Society play, but not unheard of. A limited option can be selected only if specifically allowed by a boon—whether from the Achievement Points system, a Chronicle Sheet, or another other option from a Pathfinder Society source—even if the option is common or if the character meets the normal prerequisites or access requirements printed in the option’s source.

Restricted: A restricted option is one that is not generally appropriate for all tables or conducive to the Pathfinder Society's shared campaign setting, such as a one-of-a-kind weapon, a horrific spell used by only the most evil magic-users, or player options that require high degrees of GM adjudication. Such options will generally be made available for Society Play in only a very few special cases, such as via boons given out as part of charity events, if at all.

So something that is standard availability but has requirements you don't meet (like the alignment for those deities) then you don't qualify. There's only a need to mark it restricted if the intent is to prevent you from taking that option even while meeting normal requirements.

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HammerJack wrote:

That's all on the character options page. here

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Standard: These options follow the standard rules as printed in their respective sourcebooks. If a character wants to take this option, they must meet all its prerequisites as usual. If the option is uncommon or rarer, they must also have access to the option.

Limited: A limited option is rarer in Society play, but not unheard of. A limited option can be selected only if specifically allowed by a boon—whether from the Achievement Points system, a Chronicle Sheet, or another other option from a Pathfinder Society source—even if the option is common or if the character meets the normal prerequisites or access requirements printed in the option’s source.

Restricted: A restricted option is one that is not generally appropriate for all tables or conducive to the Pathfinder Society's shared campaign setting, such as a one-of-a-kind weapon, a horrific spell used by only the most evil magic-users, or player options that require high degrees of GM adjudication. Such options will generally be made available for Society Play in only a very few special cases, such as via boons given out as part of charity events, if at all.

So something that is standard availability but has requirements you don't meet (like the alignment for those deities) then you don't qualify. There's only a need to mark it restricted if the intent is to prevent you from taking that option even while meeting normal requirements.

Ah ok. Thank you.

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In PFS1 there were Charity Auction Boons that allowed you to play an evil character (and I sat down with a Red Mantis Assassin at GenCon once).

Not sure if that will also happen for PFS2, but this type of file sorting would be the perfect way to make it work if they did.

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The only boon that I'd like to see this for is Asmodeus, who had a history with neutral PCs (especially attorneys) in PF1. I would really love to see a boon for neutral PC to worship Asmodeus. After all, he wants to make a deal with YOU.

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It may be into the decidedly mature category, but the sheer Pain that Zon-Kuthon encourages his followers to experience would make him an *ideal* fit for a meatshield fighter or the like that is constantly being beat upon as part of their Pathfinder experience.

It'd be neat to see a boon for a Lawful neutral PC to worship Zon-Kuthon.

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Well Wei Ji... you're in luck.

Zon-Kuthon (Midnight Lord) [LE]
Follower Alignments LN, LE, NE

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Robert Hetherington wrote:

Well Wei Ji... you're in luck.

Zon-Kuthon (Midnight Lord) [LE]
Follower Alignments LN, LE, NE

Thanks.

For some reason I had the mistaken impression that Z-K wasn't available for players for some reason.

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I experience that, too, when I play my Kuthite Investigator (who next level gets Risky Surgery ^_^).

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I would hope our characters could venerate any cannon deity, including Asmodeus, just not clerics and champions who have edicts and tenets.

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GM OfAnything wrote:
AoN doesn't mark things as legal or not legal. It marks things as Standard or Restricted. Deities marked as Standard that only allow evil followers are de facto disallowed because PFS does not allow for evil characters.

Nope. You can still interact with evil deity mechanics in Pathfinder Society. Only way you can't is if its restricted.

EDIT:
Currently the only way you can do that is Divine Acess whose access requirement is does the deity share the domain of your mystery but I would imagine that can change.

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I am pretty happy not having to deal with Asmodeus on the player side.

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