You either have Penache or you don't. I don't think there is a thing like "gaining Penache when you already have it".
Why are you asking? Would this matter in any way?
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I think he wants to trigger Vivacious Bravado. As far as I can tell, it's the only ability that triggers off gaining panache.
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I would argue that you can not gain panache if you already have it. The way panache works is like an on/off switch. When you gain Panache, you turn the switch on. You can't keep turning it on if it's already on. When abilities check for "gaining" Panache, they're looking to see if your Panache value has moved from Off to On on this turn.
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The rules for panache clearly state "This state of flair is called panache, and you are either in a state of panache or you are not."
The requirements for Vivacious Bravado is that a character "gain panache this turn". The words between are actually saying the character "enters a state of panache this turn".
Since a character is either in a state of panache or is not in state of panache, I would say no, a character cannot gain panache if they are already in state of panache.
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Doing an action that would have gained you Panache if you hadn't had any is not the same as gaining Panache.
Going from Panache? = yes to Panache? = yes demonstrates no gain.
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I think he wants to trigger Vivacious Bravado. As far as I can tell, it's the only ability that triggers off gaining panache.Exactly.
I couldn't find anything that says you can't gain panache if you already have it. As for the vicious bravado description, it feels more something related to the act than the gain.
PLEASE DO NOT DO THIS.
By 'this' I mean 'post a very general question when you have a very specific interaction in mind' as this can lead to answers that are technically correct for the question you asked but not for your intended use (i.e., there is a rule specific to your intended use that keeps it from working as you desire).
If you have a specific application of the rules in mind, please include it in the question you post.
Thank you.
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You cannot gain panache if you have panache- panache is a binary state. You are either "on fire" or you are "not on fire", there's no measure here for "how on fire you are". It's similar to how you cannot make a flat-footed opponent even more flat footed.
If you want to repeatedly use something that triggers off gaining panache, you will need to find a way to lose/expend it before you regain it.
You cannot gain panache if you have panache- panache is a binary state. You are either "on fire" or you are "not on fire", there's no measure here for "how on fire you are". It's similar to how you cannot make a flat-footed opponent even more flat footed.
If you want to repeatedly use something that triggers off gaining panache, you will need to find a way to lose/expend it before you regain it.
Given the feat, I'm imagining a panache-bravado-finisher sequence. Finisher-panache-bravado can also work (although it's harder as a gymnast, I think, since their special panache action is attacking).
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Chill dude
I don't think Taja intended for the comment to have any emotional tone, just an FYI. The sentiment is accurate. We see time after time people posting incomplete commentary that turns out to be another case of someone trying to enact an exploit. For those who spend a lot of time in the message boards, it can be frustrating to post in good-faith only to find out the original poster was "playing" the conversation; trying to manipulate the rules to allow them to do something that is otherwise not permitted.
OTOH, the rules are not absolute. So, if you want to be able to do something, you need only to ask your GM. We can all say 'no' to your panache question, but if you sell it to your GM who are we to tell you how to play? Good luck!
Given the feat, I'm imagining a panache-bravado-finisher sequence. Finisher-panache-bravado can also work (although it's harder as a gymnast, I think, since their special panache action is attacking).
I've played a Fencer who ran a sequence of "finisher- goading feint- vivacious bravado. It worked pretty well once I hit 10th for Dueling Dance.