Succubi-descended tieflings

[Anarchy_Kanya]

I'm looking for ideas for appearance traits of tieflings that are descended specifically from succubi. What I have in mind is something that isn't obviously fiendish, but can identify them as tieflings if you know what they are or know what to look at.
My own idea was to make them incredibally attractive physically, to the point that they appear athletic, graceful and in perfect shape without necessarilly being so.

[Ambrosia Slaad]

Have you looked in this thread?

[Scrapper]

Pathfinder Player Companion: Bastards of Golarion
some good ideas in back of book, also the (iirc name) Demon Slayers guide has added info on Succubus, and may want to look up Alu Demon, the half-demon off-spring of a Succubus.
Not sure if it matters, but is there much difference in demonic and fiendish features? or just generally planar features?

[Anarchy_Kanya]

Ambrosia Slaad wrote:

Have you looked in this thread?

Unfortunately I don't have the time to go through the 1000+ entries.

Scrapper wrote:

Pathfinder Player Companion: Bastards of Golarion

some good ideas in back of book, also the (iirc name) Demon Slayers guide has added info on Succubus, and may want to look up Alu Demon, the half-demon off-spring of a Succubus.
Not sure if it matters, but is there much difference in demonic and fiendish features? or just generally planar features?

I meant specifically succubi features.

I have just noticed that tieflings have the Pass For Human alternate racial trait, which makes this much easier than before. If anyone has some suggestions for very subtle succubus-like features for a tiefling then feel free to post, but I think I'll manage on my own if not.

[Melkiador]

I feel like the child of a succubus would just be another succubus, since it's an all-female race. But I'm not sure how Golarion lore works for them.

[Tim Emrick]

If you want subtle, I'd go for something like slightly pointed ears and canines, or hair that never looks mussed, or an unusual eye color, or very long nails. Basing the "tells" on physical attractiveness gets tricky, because standards of beauty vary so wildly from culture to culture.

[Quixote]

Why not use some actual historical "signs" for witchcraft/demonic heritage/lycanthropy? Birthmarks in specific locations, certain characteristics of the palm, fingers or toes.

Having a demon in your family tree should be weird and detrimental, even if the demon was apparently hawt.

[Anarchy_Kanya]

Melkiador wrote:

I feel like the child of a succubus would just be another succubus, since it's an all-female race. But I'm not sure how Golarion lore works for them.

There is a half-succubus template.

Quixote wrote:

Having a demon in your family tree should be weird and detrimental, even if the demon was apparently hawt.

Tell it to the devs. They're making it out to be only benefits.

[Mudfoot]

Probably a bit horny.

[Scott Wilhelm]

A Succubus-descended Tiefling MUST be a good Grappler!

[Rysky]

Anarchy_Kanya wrote:

Quixote wrote:

Having a demon in your family tree should be weird and detrimental, even if the demon was apparently hawt.

Tell it to the devs. They're making it out to be only benefits.

Where?

Also Demon Tieflings have an Intelligence penalty.

[Anarchy_Kanya]

Rysky wrote:

Anarchy_Kanya wrote:

Quixote wrote:

Having a demon in your family tree should be weird and detrimental, even if the demon was apparently hawt.

Tell it to the devs. They're making it out to be only benefits.

Where?

Various fiend related options (like templates or Sorcerer/Bloodrager bloodlines) are pretty much only beneficial, IME.

[deuxhero]

Tail and vestigial wings.

[Artofregicide]

Rysky wrote:

Anarchy_Kanya wrote:

Quixote wrote:

Having a demon in your family tree should be weird and detrimental, even if the demon was apparently hawt.

Tell it to the devs. They're making it out to be only benefits.

Where?

Also Demon Tieflings have an Intelligence penalty.

I mean, the half fiend template is pretty much all mechanical benefits, but it doesn't necessarily make you pretty.

[Rysky]

Anarchy_Kanya wrote:

Rysky wrote:

Anarchy_Kanya wrote:

Quixote wrote:

Having a demon in your family tree should be weird and detrimental, even if the demon was apparently hawt.

Tell it to the devs. They're making it out to be only benefits.

Where?

Various fiend related options (like templates or Sorcerer/Bloodrager bloodlines) are pretty much only beneficial, IME.

Most templates and character options are.

[Artofregicide]

Rysky wrote:

Anarchy_Kanya wrote:

Rysky wrote:

Anarchy_Kanya wrote:

Quixote wrote:

Having a demon in your family tree should be weird and detrimental, even if the demon was apparently hawt.

Tell it to the devs. They're making it out to be only benefits.

Where?

Various fiend related options (like templates or Sorcerer/Bloodrager bloodlines) are pretty much only beneficial, IME.

Most templates and character options are.

Yeah, for sure. It's been a long journey for Paizo to shake off the negative tropes that have pervaded the hobby, but I think they've done well with it.

I also imagine that an attractive outsider would likely pass down their looks regardless of alignment.

After all, "pretty good, ugly evil" is a trope that needs to die.

[Rysky]

Artofregicide wrote:

Rysky wrote:

Anarchy_Kanya wrote:

Rysky wrote:

Anarchy_Kanya wrote:

Quixote wrote:

Having a demon in your family tree should be weird and detrimental, even if the demon was apparently hawt.

Tell it to the devs. They're making it out to be only benefits.

Where?

Various fiend related options (like templates or Sorcerer/Bloodrager bloodlines) are pretty much only beneficial, IME.

Most templates and character options are.

Yeah, for sure. It's been a long journey for Paizo to shake off the negative tropes that have pervaded the hobby, but I think they've done well with it.

I also imagine that an attractive outsider would likely pass down their looks regardless of alignment.

After all, "pretty good, ugly evil" is a trope that needs to die.

Ye

[Lord Fyre]

Rysky wrote:

Anarchy_Kanya wrote:

Quixote wrote:

Having a demon in your family tree should be weird and detrimental, even if the demon was apparently hawt.

Tell it to the devs. They're making it out to be only benefits.

Where?

Also Demon Tieflings have an Intelligence penalty.

What should be the proper stat to take a penalty for a Succubus tiefling? (Wisdom? i.e., poor impulse control?)

[Rysky]

Lord Fyre wrote:

Rysky wrote:

Anarchy_Kanya wrote:

Quixote wrote:

Having a demon in your family tree should be weird and detrimental, even if the demon was apparently hawt.

Tell it to the devs. They're making it out to be only benefits.

Where?

Also Demon Tieflings have an Intelligence penalty.

What should be the proper stat to take a penalty for a Succubus tiefling? (Wisdom? i.e., poor impulse control?)

That or Strength, it's the lowest for them in P1 (Str 13, Wis 14).

[Lord Fyre]

Not to sound like I am plugging a product, but the character of "Emerina Vestelle" from Righteous Heroes (PFRPG) is a great example of a Succubi descended tiefling.