Disguise Self limitations


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Silver Crusade

I want to say yes, but figured I would check on here for more opinions: Disguise Self can do minor features, and it further states that it can not be used to disguise as another type, but that it can be used to disguise subtype. Given that halflings are humanoids, and Strix are humanoids with wings, would I be able to give myself illusory nonfunctional wings via Disguise Self or a hat of disguise?


Yeah, probably. I mean, a halfling and a strix are likely in the size range of each other and if they are just different subtypes then it should be doable.

The only real sticking point is how they say you can 'add or obscure minor features'. I guess it will come down to how your GM reads that and whether they would consider wings (or eyestalks or a huge rack of antlers (not just small horns) or an elephant's truck) to be minor features that can be added (or obscured, for that purpose).


PFSRD wrote:
You make yourself – including clothing, armor, weapons, and equipment – look different. You can seem 1 foot shorter or taller, thin, fat, or in between. You cannot change your creature type (although you can appear as another subtype). Otherwise, the extent of the apparent change is up to you. You could add or obscure a minor feature or look like an entirely different person or gender.

The parameters are 1 foot height difference, weight change, and the same creature type. "the extent of the apparent change is up to you" seems to be the part you should focus on.

You can't make yourself look like an outsider, so no devils or celestial. Also no native outsiders so quite a few player races are out also.

But a Strix should be in for any PC that is close to an appropriate size. Just don't expect it to fool Strix for long, since the race gets a bonus vs illusions.

Silver Crusade

It's not actually for disguising myself as a strix, I'm just interested in some rp potential, making a halfling that probably spent some time around the fey, and got used to using illusion magic for vanity, rather than subtle disguises.


Pathfinder Starfinder Society Subscriber

Aren't strix size Medium? That would make them considerably bigger than halflings. But I think the Disguise skill already has modifiers for trying to change size category.


Note that the 3.5 version used body type, not creature type. I have no idea why this change was done since tiefling disguising as a human makes much more sense than centaur disguising as a minotaur or pile of slimey flesh disguising as a helmet.

Silver Crusade

Well, Pathfinder uses creature type, and the game I play is Pathfinder, so I'm going with Pathfinder rules.

Sovereign Court

You won’t be able to use it to go from halfling to strip (or other medium or larger sized humanoid) as it only allows you a small size change from you existing height. I’d also say that wings are not a minor feature so you couldn’t become one anyway.

Silver Crusade

Would you say a human could make themselves look like a strix? Or a halfling like a specifically immature strix?

Sovereign Court

I’d say no since wings on a strix are large in comparison to the body. I imagine the minor features are things like moles, missing digit or extra one, small horns on the head etc.


I'll join the thread with a related question:

Can I use disguise self to add features that are normally not present in the creature of the type that I'm disguising as? For example, let's say I'm a human. Can I look like a human with small horns, or six fingers, or glowing eyes? Or I am only limited to forms and appearances that are normal for the races of humanoid type?

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