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Sure Doom, but looking through EVERY single PDF to find a small section on feats takes a lot of time/effort. Plus. Not everyone has laptops or tablets available for use. This is simply condensing ALL options together so they are all organized in one place.
Online resources have everything in one place. PDFs are also searchable so you can jump to the section you need. Either will require a computer, but modern smartphones work fine.
I doubt there is enough of a paper-only market to financially justify Paizo republishing repackaged material.
I doubt there is enough of a paper-only market to financially justify Paizo republishing repackaged material.
This.
I'm really happy with PF1 and currently in the "not unless major changes have been made between Playtest and release" category with regards to PF2.
But... despite that, I'm in a buying paralysis mode. There are some 3pp products I'm watching and buying, but there are some Paizo-original products I have hesitated to buy because of the uncertainty of the future. I'm comfortable buying stuff I might only use a bit of, and things for the future, but who knows what I'll be doing in two years. PF1? PF2? The Expanse? Dunno.
So would I buy compilation books? Quite honestly, probably not, despite that I would've enjoyed them in the past.
It already exists, it's called Archives of Nethys
The conversation (recently) has been regarding a print, bound book.
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A print book with all the core, hybrid, prestige, alternate, etc. classes and archetypes would be literally thousands of pages. One for feats and such would be equally massive. A spell compendium would be more manageable, but neither of the first 2 are even vaguely viable options at this point...
10 years worth of books cannot be crammed into 3 volumes, plus it would be a horrid business move if it was possible...why would anyone ever buy any of the other books when you can just get all the rules in a tidy 3 volume set?
I'm really happy with PF1 and currently in the "not unless major changes have been made between Playtest and release" category with regards to PF2.
But... despite that, I'm in a buying paralysis mode. There are some 3pp products I'm watching and buying, but there are some Paizo-original products I have hesitated to buy because of the uncertainty of the future. I'm comfortable buying stuff I might only use a bit of, and things for the future, but who knows what I'll be doing in two years. PF1? PF2? The Expanse? Dunno.
Are you planning on buying the Core book? Or are you going to wait and form judgement based on reviews/online rules resources?
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Are you planning on buying the Core book? Or are you going to wait and form judgement based on reviews/online rules resources?I'm really happy with PF1 and currently in the "not unless major changes have been made between Playtest and release" category with regards to PF2.
But... despite that, I'm in a buying paralysis mode. There are some 3pp products I'm watching and buying, but there are some Paizo-original products I have hesitated to buy because of the uncertainty of the future. I'm comfortable buying stuff I might only use a bit of, and things for the future, but who knows what I'll be doing in two years. PF1? PF2? The Expanse? Dunno.
I'll answer that question, Steve, as though you asked me instead of Anguish. :D
I'm going to buy the PF2 CRB PDF. I might buy the campaign setting book whatever-it's-called PDF as well.
I'm continuing my charter AP sub, assuming they don't change the terms on the subscription.
I don't plan on buying any more PF2 rulebooks. I might (again) buy campaign setting-type PDFs, depending on subject matter and how much of that content is rule content I won't use. It's a big question mark for me.
For PF1, I'm going to finish it out. I'll keep my Starfinder AP sub for now too.
Thanks for asking! ;)
-Skeld
Are you planning on buying the Core book? Or are you going to wait and form judgement based on reviews/online rules resources?
As Skeld says. I'll certainly grab the PDF of Core and Bestiary, to read them. I mean, I'm a guy who owns the D&D 4e core books, so it's not like I'm going to neglect this. But I'm not sold.
As for my AP and modules subscriptions, at this point I've mostly convinced myself to maintain them for the first six months. I'll see what an adventure looks like, and if I'm still not sold on PF2, I'll drop them at that time.
This is mostly because I have enough disposable income to spend on an AP I probably won't ever play (as-is).
What're you doing? I read you'd sold off your PF1 collection...
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Are you planning on buying the Core book? Or are you going to wait and form judgement based on reviews/online rules resources?
I personally do not plan on spending my money on any PF2 material in any format. There are just too many things about the fundamental structure of the new system that I do not find enjoyable. They have stated they are fixing a few of the things I did not like, but the core math behind the system is deeply flawed, and unless they completely started over from scratch, no level of revisions is going to change that.
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Are you planning on buying the Core book? Or are you going to wait and form judgement based on reviews/online rules resources?As Skeld says. I'll certainly grab the PDF of Core and Bestiary, to read them. I mean, I'm a guy who owns the D&D 4e core books, so it's not like I'm going to neglect this. But I'm not sold.
As for my AP and modules subscriptions, at this point I've mostly convinced myself to maintain them for the first six months. I'll see what an adventure looks like, and if I'm still not sold on PF2, I'll drop them at that time.
This is mostly because I have enough disposable income to spend on an AP I probably won't ever play (as-is).
What're you doing? I read you'd sold off your PF1 collection...
I forgot Modules. I'll keep getting those if they look interesting. I like to mine adventures for content. The edition doesn't matter much in that regard.
I've kinda developed some other areas I want to shift my disposable income to. Those areas aren't gaming-related.
-Skeld
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Are you planning on buying the Core book? Or are you going to wait and form judgement based on reviews/online rules resources?I'll answer that question, Steve, as though you asked me instead of Anguish. :D
I'm going to buy the PF2 CRB PDF. I might buy the campaign setting book whatever-it's-called PDF as well.
I'm continuing my charter AP sub, assuming they don't change the terms on the subscription.
I don't plan on buying any more PF2 rulebooks. I might (again) buy campaign setting-type PDFs, depending on subject matter and how much of that content is rule content I won't use. It's a big question mark for me.
For PF1, I'm going to finish it out. I'll keep my Starfinder AP sub for now too.
Thanks for asking! ;)
-Skeld
For me rules really make no difference (I've played Paizo APs using 0E, 4E, 5E and PF with equally satisfying results).
The rules changing wasn't my choice but I found it relatively easy to accept and move on from. My greatest looming disappointment is the merging of the Player Companion line with the Campaign Setting line. I absolutely loved the campaign books from PF1 and part of why I liked them is that they're relatively low on crunch.
I fear that with the new all-in-one approach, I'm going to enjoy reading those a whole lot less. :(
Are you planning on buying the Core book? Or are you going to wait and form judgement based on reviews/online rules resources?As Skeld says. I'll certainly grab the PDF of Core and Bestiary, to read them. I mean, I'm a guy who owns the D&D 4e core books, so it's not like I'm going to neglect this. But I'm not sold.
As for my AP and modules subscriptions, at this point I've mostly convinced myself to maintain them for the first six months. I'll see what an adventure looks like, and if I'm still not sold on PF2, I'll drop them at that time.
This is mostly because I have enough disposable income to spend on an AP I probably won't ever play (as-is).
What're you doing? I read you'd sold off your PF1 collection...
Yeah, I got rid of it all pretty much completely. (I kept War for the Crown AP as I love that AP and still want to run it one day. Plus I'm getting Tyrant's Grasp, just because I want to see what happens). Beyond that, I kept the deity books and half a dozen of my favorite campaign sourcebooks but gave the rest away.
I'm going to commit to the first year of product (and am pretty confident I'll continue beyond that). There have been the odd APs which just didn't do it for me, so I'm going to give it two to really be sure if I like PF2 APs. I also want to put a bit of distance between PF1 and PF2 before passing judgement (as much as possible, anyhow) since I don't really trust myself to give it a fair go immediately.
I kind of viewed it like the new windows. I much preferred the older versions but once the new one rolled around I didn't bother learning how to make the old things compatible - I switched over and forced myself to learn the new. It's a little easier for me than most, since the specific rule system has close to zero impact on whether I enjoy a game. So the main hurdle didn't involve comparing new rules with old and deciding what I liked best - it was more getting over an emotional attachment to a reasonably complete collection built up over the last ten years.
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I've moved to hardcovers only for the most part. While a collected tome would be nice, it likely would not sell in enough numbers for a print run. And while I can see a PDF working, it would also need to incorporate FAQs and errata, some of which remain unanswered. I doubt they would want to put an incomplete PDF together, increasing the amount of effort needed to make it publicly releasable.
Seems massively impractical to me, leaving aside the economics. I have a complete collection of everything Pathfinder, and I maintain a separate photocopied/printed file of every class, archetype and prestige class for easy reference (I love class options!)... it currently runs to 4,560 pages...
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Seems massively impractical to me, leaving aside the economics. I have a complete collection of everything Pathfinder, and I maintain a separate photocopied/printed file of every class, archetype and prestige class for easy reference (I love class options!)... it currently runs to 4,560 pages...
I know I might regret asking this, but have you ever heard of computers?
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I know I might regret asking this, but have you ever heard of computers?
LOL. I have a masters degree in Information Systems, and IRL I work for one of the worlds great national libraries as Head of Information Management. Sometimes it’s just relaxing to build a small hardcopy index for a collection that doesn’t run to hundreds of millions of entries... that’s part of the hobby for me. Even in hardcopy I can usually track down a specific answer faster than my players can find it on a google search... :)