How can there be bottomless pits (as in the hazard) on Golarion?


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Wouldn't you fall into the core of the planet eventually? Or are they some kind of extra-dimensional space? If so, what happens if you open a bag of holding while falling down within one?


There are?


It's a portal to the elemental plane of air.


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Any pit is bottomless until you get to the bottom.


Outside of a teleport loop there is no such thing as a bottomless pit. The classic way to do this is to have a pit that when you reach a certain point it teleports you back up the pit so you continue to fall. So let’s say you have a 100 foot pit. When you reach the 90 foot mark it teleports you back up to the 10 foot mark. The reason you don’t teleport to the top of the pit is so that the person falling cannot try to grab the top of the pit to escape. Since you are using teleport instead extradimensional space a bag of holding is not affected in anyway.


I imagine it’s extradimensional, like the pit spells. You could cast a pit spell on the second floor of a building and the first floor wouldn’t even notice.


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Bottomless Pit is a hazard from Horror Adventures. It specifically states it is an entrance to an 'extraplanar' space (I imagine this is another word for extradimensional.) Assuming that is true, your bag of holding would be nonfunctional while within it.


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You could just have your pit be a portal into open space (the space between galaxies, for example). It's not technically bottomless - given a few billion years you'll probably hit something - but it's close enough.

As far as "extraplanar" space, they may have done that so that it doesn't affect bags of holding? Who knows, it probably doesn't come up all that much.


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I'm just gonna leave this here.


Mysterious Stranger wrote:
Outside of a teleport loop there is no such thing as a bottomless pit. The classic way to do this is to have a pit that when you reach a certain point it teleports you back up the pit so you continue to fall. So let’s say you have a 100 foot pit. When you reach the 90 foot mark it teleports you back up to the 10 foot mark. The reason you don’t teleport to the top of the pit is so that the person falling cannot try to grab the top of the pit to escape. Since you are using teleport instead extradimensional space a bag of holding is not affected in anyway.

Actually, without magic you can have a bottomless pit by having the pit go all the way through a solid body of noticeable gravitational pull. Problem is: Once you get somewhere into the dwarf planet (let alone planet) range, the pit will fill itself in, at least in the lower parts.


All pits are bottomless. You're just looking at them upside-down.


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Planets are big, and have plenty of depth to allow you to fall long enough to;

A) reach terminal velocity, pass out, and suffocate

B) cook to death as the ambient temperature raises above 400 degrees after a couple miles of free fall

There could still actually be a bottom to the pit, but you're already dead so it's irrelevant.

But it being described as an "extraplanar" space means that it is closer to a void between planes, like the Todash Darkness of the Dark Tower Stephen King books.


I think the center of the planet is bottomless enough. On the hand, a bottomless pit could just be beyond mere mortal magic and play by its own rules (there are lots of such things in the world of Golarion).


You can make a real world one by slanting the sides in. Imagine an inverted pyramid. There are sides, but no bottom. If you fall in, you stop since the sides are too close to allow you to pass, not because you 'hit bottom'.

/cevah


^I would argue that the lowest point is the bottom. If you had the sides slope in asymptotically so that they never truly close all the way in, that would be different -- at least until you got to where it was so narrow that you couldn't distinguish it from the space between atoms any more. Depending upon the rate of asymptotic closing in, that might actually occur before you got down to enough pressure in the rocks to close the hole anyway.

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Reminds me of Paizo's youtube channel and Darklands were James Jacobs commented that it is very surreal when you fall into bottomless pit and then eventually realize you are falling into a top of a mountain range

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