do all rituals require secondary casters?


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please tell me that is not the case

i'm asking that because i'm worried, i believe heard animate dead might be a a ritual

i like the idea of rituals and i cant stand a lot of bad stuff like the 4 minions limit and not being able to leave then for 1 minute and even the vocal command

but i really don't want to need another person to make basic skeletons like really this is kinda of a deal breaker for me


What is happening, man? You made one thread about a class concept and were told that the bulk of Necromancy was left out of the playtest. Then you made a second thread to ask about rituals which really isn't a big deal.

Like, what you're looking for isn't anything that was included in the playtest and no one has seen anything about it yet. You can read the rulebook that's been out for awhile before jumping to conclusions so quickly.


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It is a bit of a concern regarding other rituals, however. Looking at some of the others, those require secondary casters for no good reason that I can discern. Why does Commune require a secondary caster? Why do the religion-based ones require two secondary casters of your religion - does concentrating on the ritual leave you incapable of doing anything else? Similarly, the fact that Planar Binding requires four secondary casters would certainly throw off quite a few examples, primarily because of the difficulty of the checks.

I'll also note that consecrate, in its current state, would really throw off a certain part of Hell's Rebels. Both the time (3 days) and the fact that it needs 2 secondary casters of the religion are problems in that case.


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What is happening, man? You made one thread about a class concept and were told that the bulk of Necromancy was left out of the playtest. Then you made a second thread to ask about rituals which really isn't a big deal.

Like, what you're looking for isn't anything that was included in the playtest and no one has seen anything about it yet. You can read the rulebook that's been out for awhile before jumping to conclusions so quickly.

in the thread i was actually asking if there was a way to get access to the divine list without a god

but someone on the tread mentioned that the resurrection requires 2 other people

then i remembered that they said in a stream that animate dead was gonna be a ritual and was left out because of space or something

then i realized that there isn't a single ritual without secondary casters and its stated that you cant do it without them

maybe im jumping to the conclusion that animate dead is gonna require a secondary caster

but if i don't voice my complaints now and its comes out requiring one then p2e is gonna be lost to me

i always went through great lengths on pf1 to ignore any form of reliance on players and gm like getting blood money or rune sage or even false focus to ignore the need for gems and be able to raise dead when i want

i'm really worried about it


About the minion limit - in one of the twitch streams Jason (I think) said they are considering having a troop for multiple minions.

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