How do one gender races reproduce?


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Does it say anywhere? I was thinking the all female races might just be able to reproduce on their own like some species of lizards in real life.


They are either the result of two other races breeding (like changelings), or need another race to breed with, and the offspring belongs to their race (like skum).


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Oozes use parthenogenesis. That is, they split into two.

Some races may even be the result of magical alteration.

/cevah


Spores?


It completely depends on the race.

Is there any specific race you're asking about? Because what's true for harpies isn't true for changelings, for example.

How many one-gender races are there, anyway? (Not counting outsiders who usually just pop into existence even if they have multiple gender.)
So far I'm counting Changelings, Harpies and Skum.

(Oozes and such don't count either, they don't have gender at all.)


Really depends on the setting, if we aren't just limiting it to galaron we can add orcs to that list as well as several dozen other races.

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Cevah wrote:

Oozes use parthenogenesis. That is, they split into two.

Some races may even be the result of magical alteration.

/cevah

Parthenogenesis is an asexual mode of reproduction, but it involves an organism developing from an unfertilized egg. It is fairly rare, but it is one of the ways that asexual reproduction evolve in animal species (it also happens in plants). Splitting in two could be referred to as budding, or maybe cloning?


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It's called fission actually.


(Bear with me for a moment)

In 40k (unless they've retconned yet again) Orks create their entire society unintentionally. As they live they slowly release spores (they're a fungal creature) and these spores grow Orks, food-items, gretchin (like goblins) and various beasts of burden.

Similarly, I have no Half-Orcs in my campaign (though have a race that replaces them) and thus have no "female" orks (though the "males" wouldn't really be either.)

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In other news -
Harpies reproduce by stealing humanoids and (...)

Dust Diggers "bud off"

Many Vermin reproduce like insects; where a queen gives birth to the young, which may be "male" in some sense; but often their roles and genetics are determined by how they're fed and "raised" in the hive. (Queen Bees are just female bees that have been treated specially)

Golems are often magical creations;

Elementals are often forces of nature that don't reproduce (are part of the world itself)

Many plant species don't reproduce, they are created by some corrupting force that passes by

Undead often "reproduce" by killing a non-undead in some specific way.

Slugs (in real life) can reproduce by laying egg-copies of themselves OR by mating (which is true of many species.)

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So summarizing:
* implantation, infection, or corruption
* creation by another party
* "budding off"
* splitting at sufficient size
* asexual egg-laying (or spores, etc)
* a post-birth sex-determination such as the way they're raised/fed/environment

and many other ways. Some include manifestation of feelings or thoughts. Whatever you can imagine probably has *at least one* creature that follows that pattern in a beastiary somewhere.


This is an excellent question, how do Elves reproduce anyway? I guess like Aasari from mass effect.

Shadow Lodge

Rajnish Umbra, Shadow Caller wrote:

It completely depends on the race.

Is there any specific race you're asking about? Because what's true for harpies isn't true for changelings, for example.

How many one-gender races are there, anyway? (Not counting outsiders who usually just pop into existence even if they have multiple gender.)
So far I'm counting Changelings, Harpies and Skum.

(Oozes and such don't count either, they don't have gender at all.)

No longer true. There's a scenario with a male harpy.


ShroudedInLight wrote:
This is an excellent question, how do Elves reproduce anyway? I guess like Aasari from mass effect.

Eh? Not sure what you mean here.


Elves have two genders. They reproduce the normal way.


blahpers wrote:
ShroudedInLight wrote:
This is an excellent question, how do Elves reproduce anyway? I guess like Aasari from mass effect.
Eh? Not sure what you mean here.

Monogendered race that reproduces by telepathically(?) linking nervous systems with their partner and using that to randomize genes inside themselves and grow a child. Said baby pops out the usual way.


Naw, yer ALL wrong! It works by Cabbage Patch Kids and storks....


Piccolo wrote:
Naw, yer ALL wrong! It works by Cabbage Patch Kids and storks....

Given how dangerous some creatures in Pathfinder can be, those Storks would have to be pretty high CR creatures in their own right...


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Dasrak wrote:
Piccolo wrote:
Naw, yer ALL wrong! It works by Cabbage Patch Kids and storks....
Given how dangerous some creatures in Pathfinder can be, those Storks would have to be pretty high CR creatures in their own right...

The more dangerous ones are handled by Canadian geese.


Yqatuba wrote:
Elves have two genders. They reproduce the normal way.
TV Tropes: Elfeminate wrote:
The Order of the Stick uses the Ambiguous Gender of the Elves as a Running Gag, to the extent that, in the subtitles, the Elvish children refer to their parental units as "parent" and "other parent" rather than "mother" and "father". Worth mentioning is that the Ambiguous Gender of Vaarsuvius (one of the aforementioned parents) has been a running joke for a long time (even if it wasn't meant to be ambiguous at first). Also, the children are adopted, so any of the four gender combinations for two people is possible for V and his/her spouse. As of 2016, two elves have established genders; the Order of the Scribble's Lirian and priestess Veldrina — the latter of whom was introduced years into the comic and was originally a fan-created character.

Twas a joke


Ask the Warhammer orcs.


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WAGHHHHH!


Yqatuba wrote:
Does it say anywhere? I was thinking the all female races might just be able to reproduce on their own like some species of lizards in real life.

The Pathfinder Bestiaries actually tell you for Changelings/Witchbloods, Harpies, and a few other all-female races (and for that matter, for at least 1 all-male race, the Satyrs) -- they breed with Humanoids (usually Humans) in a way that always generates offspring that are more of themselves.

And with that, IT'S WEIRD SCIENCE TIME!

I can even think of a way that this could work according to scientific principles already broadly understood in our world: The characteristics that distinguish a member of these races are encoded on a modified sex chromosome that also exhibits extreme segregation distortion and/or meiotic drive, thus ensuring that it is always passed to all offspring, at the expense of the other sex chromosome. A modified Y chromosome of this type (Y*) would produce an all-male race (the X chromosome from the Satyr would always be lost).

If a Y* mutated so as to lose the normal tendency of a Y chromosome to interfere with female survival and fertility, and also lost its male-determining gene, creatures possessing this chromosome (V, not X*, because it is still Y-derived) across from a normal X chromosome would instead be female, and all their offspring would be female, because they would always psss this mutated chromosome on to their offspring, which would have to get a normal X chromosome from their fathers, because VY would be an inviable sex chromosome combination just as YY is (the normal X chromosome has genes essential for survival that are not on a Y chromosome and would thus also be absent from a V chromosome, thus resulting in extremely early embryonic lethality). Depending upon how many original masculinizing genes remained on the V chromosome, a V chromosome could conceivably interfere with female secondary sexual characteristics (such as the ability to breast-feed, thus impairing the ability of mothers to raise their own children) short of causing outright infertility (thus encouraging brood parasitism, such as is reported to be extremely common for Witchbloods, on the part of those having insufficient wealth to bypass this clear threat to the survival of their children). Varieties of V chromosome that are further mutated so as to avoid interference with secondary female sexual characteristics might exist in all-female races not practicing brood parasitism, such as Harpies.

Witchblood covens are reported to have male offspring (Calibans) on occasion -- perhaps what they do to accomplish this includes dosing themselves with colchicine or something similar to impair the segregation distortion caused by the V chromosome, thus sometimes resulting in a VXY karyotype, which would be phenotypically male (although abnormal, depending upon other mutations on the V chromosome). Provided that such creatures could have offspring of their own at least occasionally, and provided that an analogous phenomenon could occur on occasion with all-male races (such as Satyrs), the existence of such abnormal karyotypes, although rare, would provide a mechanism for very slow interchange of genetic material between V, Y*, and normal Y chromosomes, thus enabling a very low but non-zero probability of generation of an all-female race from an all-male race or vice versa.


ShroudedInLight wrote:
Yqatuba wrote:
Elves have two genders. They reproduce the normal way.
TV Tropes: Elfeminate wrote:
The Order of the Stick uses the Ambiguous Gender of the Elves as a Running Gag, to the extent that, in the subtitles, the Elvish children refer to their parental units as "parent" and "other parent" rather than "mother" and "father". Worth mentioning is that the Ambiguous Gender of Vaarsuvius (one of the aforementioned parents) has been a running joke for a long time (even if it wasn't meant to be ambiguous at first). Also, the children are adopted, so any of the four gender combinations for two people is possible for V and his/her spouse. As of 2016, two elves have established genders; the Order of the Scribble's Lirian and priestess Veldrina — the latter of whom was introduced years into the comic and was originally a fan-created character.
Twas a joke

Bah, figured I was missing some reference or other. Embarrassed that it was OotS, though!


thistledown wrote:
Rajnish Umbra, Shadow Caller wrote:

How many one-gender races are there, anyway? (Not counting outsiders who usually just pop into existence even if they have multiple gender.)

So far I'm counting Changelings, Harpies and Skum.
No longer true. There's a scenario with a male harpy.

Google fails me. Can you tell me which scenario you mean?

Shadow Lodge

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Meh, we're playing Pathfinder over here.

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