Do you have a back ground for the potential charater? Are you looking fir a beat cop or something more? I like a solarian for a green lantern feel with dips into envoy for leadership and skills but that is just me. Theme and race are really going to depend on your flavor of law enforcement. Let me know what you want to go for :)
Operative (Detective) is a good basis for a police investigator, the archetype does add nice flavor.
Themes to consider:
* Spacefarer — sort of a space Marshall, bringing law and justice to the vast
* Priest of Abadar or Iemodae — It is their divine duty to bring order to the lawless areas
* Bounty Hunter — different sort of space marshal, skilled tracker
* Outlaw — Dirty cop, or reformed criminal
Human or any race that doesn’t penalize Dex or Wis should work fine. Operative is one of the easiest classes to build.
While a Solider would be more offensively powerful, I think an Operative is going to do better in the skill department, especially since your interested in Talk no Jutsu (aka Diplomacy).
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That's what the Taclash and Merciful weapons are for. You may not succeed at maneuvers, but you will be able to subdue enemies without lasting harm.
You get more feats in Starfinder then you do in Pathfinder. If I were you I would go soldier and just get skill focus for diplomacy.
Personally I would go for improved initiative.
Are you sure about human? Did you check out the netflix movie bright? With so many options human seems to easy, but I never have played a human in any rpg :)
I'm not. I've always thought humans were boring, but with so many races it's hard to choose.
I want to say something on this topic, a character is only as boring or interesting as you let them be.
In my experience other races often end up being humans of another flavor, and it's the RP that you make a point to do that makes the character interesting, not the actual race. Now, a specific race might inspire you more easily for how you want to RP a character, but that's more a limitation of our own creativity than a problem specific to a race.
The race doesn't make the character interesting, the player does.
I'm not. I've always thought humans were boring, but with so many races it's hard to choose.I want to say something on this topic, a character is only as boring or interesting as you let them be.
In my experience other races often end up being humans of another flavor, and it's the RP that you make a point to do that makes the character interesting, not the actual race. Now, a specific race might inspire you more easily for how you want to RP a character, but that's more a limitation of our own creativity than a problem specific to a race.
The race doesn't make the character interesting, the player does.
I agree...but with so many options why not pick something else? Why not make it your own. I would love to see a Brethda Cop that is like Blasto the fictional hanar character featured in several films in the Mass Effect universe.
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I am currently playing a cop in Starfinder Society.
Nuar Technomancer 3 (Steward Officer); Gronnigan specializes in forensics; my interpretation of the "Maze Mind" Nuar class feature is that they are good at patterns, and what is forensics but identifying patterns?
Technomancers actually don't lose very much from getting the Steward officer archetype. They delay getting their first Magic Hack until 5th level (when they get TWO), they lose one spell known of their highest level (but get it back when they go up another spell level), and lose a Hack at 9th level and delay getting their third Techlore bonus.
He was separated from his parents as a child while they were visiting Aballon and was raised by goblin scavengers. He hated all of the goblins' lawless behavior and one day realized... hey, I'm seven feet tall and no goblin would ever try to stop me if I just left!" He then left Aballon and went to the police academy.
As a reminder of his time among the goblins, he uses the Junksword spell, which works well with his natural Nuar strength. As that will always be the first spell he chooses of a given spell level and lasts 10 minutes per caster level, he will be able to spend his excess highest-level spell slots on the Enhanced Weapon and Countertech hacks once he gets to 5th level.
It isn't the most optimized build, but it has been fun so far.
The race doesn't make the character interesting, the player does.That's true, but humans will always be humans.
Humans are all the most interesting people I know.
Technomancers actually don't lose very much from getting the Steward officer archetype. They delay getting their first Magic Hack until 5th level (when they get TWO), they lose one spell known of their highest level (but get it back when they go up another spell level), and lose a Hack at 9th level and delay getting their third Techlore bonus.
Might want to reread the Alternate Class Features.
2nd Level You don’t gain the magic hack class feature at 2nd level. Instead, you gain it at 5th level.
You don't get the Class Feature until 5th level. It isn't saying you get two magical hacks at 5th level, it is saying you lose the feature normally gained at 2nd level and don't get that class feature until 5th.
How much you gain or lose really depends on the character concept, although one less of the top spell level always hurts.
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Technomancers actually don't lose very much from getting the Steward officer archetype. They delay getting their first Magic Hack until 5th level (when they get TWO), they lose one spell known of their highest level (but get it back when they go up another spell level), and lose a Hack at 9th level and delay getting their third Techlore bonus.Might want to reread the Alternate Class Features.
2nd Level You don’t gain the magic hack class feature at 2nd level. Instead, you gain it at 5th level.You don't get the Class Feature until 5th level. It isn't saying you get two magical hacks at 5th level, it is saying you lose the feature normally gained at 2nd level and don't get that class feature until 5th.
How much you gain or lose really depends on the character concept, although one less of the top spell level always hurts.
It doesn't say that you don't get the 2nd level hack, it says that you don't get it until 5th level "instead." That doesn't affect you also gaining a second magic hack at 5th level.
Nowhere else is losing a feature is it worded like that. Literally everywhere else where it's listed that you replace a class feature and don't get it later, it just says, "you don't gain [x feature]."
Later in Technomancer, at 6th level, it says that you don't gain Cache Capacitor at 6th level; it then goes on to say that you get it at 8th level INSTEAD of a magic hack.
Even later in Technomancer, at 9th level, your Techlore doesn't go up to +3; it instead goes up to +3 at 11th level and you don't receive the magic hack normally gained at 11th level. Mind you, this doesn't change the fact that you will increase your Techlore to +4 at 12th level.
Everywhere it says "instead" it means that you still get the thing, just at a different time with perhaps a different cost. No extra cost is listed for 2nd level; you just get two at 5th level. If they'd meant to say that you don't get the 2nd level magic hack, they'd just say, "you don't get the magic hack at 2nd level" like they do for soldiers, solarians, operatives, envoys, and mechanics class features.
My advice? Play as a human and use this as your avatar. Anything else is simply unacceptable.
Technomancers actually don't lose very much from getting the Steward officer archetype. They delay getting their first Magic Hack until 5th level (when they get TWO), they lose one spell known of their highest level (but get it back when they go up another spell level), and lose a Hack at 9th level and delay getting their third Techlore bonus.Might want to reread the Alternate Class Features.
2nd Level You don’t gain the magic hack class feature at 2nd level. Instead, you gain it at 5th level.You don't get the Class Feature until 5th level. It isn't saying you get two magical hacks at 5th level, it is saying you lose the feature normally gained at 2nd level and don't get that class feature until 5th.
How much you gain or lose really depends on the character concept, although one less of the top spell level always hurts.
It doesn't say that you don't get the 2nd level hack, it says that you don't get it until 5th level "instead." That doesn't affect you also gaining a second magic hack at 5th level.
Nowhere else is losing a feature is it worded like that. Literally everywhere else where it's listed that you replace a class feature and don't get it later, it just says, "you don't gain [x feature]."
Later in Technomancer, at 6th level, it says that you don't gain Cache Capacitor at 6th level; it then goes on to say that you get it at 8th level INSTEAD of a magic hack.
Even later in Technomancer, at 9th level, your Techlore doesn't go up to +3; it instead goes up to +3 at 11th level and you don't receive the magic hack normally gained at 11th level. Mind you, this doesn't change the fact that you will increase your Techlore to +4 at 12th level.
Everywhere it says "instead" it means that you still get the thing, just at a different time with perhaps a different cost. No extra cost is listed for 2nd level; you just get two at 5th level. If they'd meant to say that you don't get...
You're trying to read too much into it.
It replaces the ability you would have gotten at 2nd level, and instead grants it at 5th level.
It's worded poorly, but that's what it does.
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You're trying to read too much into it.
It replaces the ability you would have gotten at 2nd level, and instead grants it at 5th level.
It's worded poorly, but that's what it does.
That's what I actually did say. You get the ability at a later level. At that same level, you also gain another ability that happens to be the same. Otherwise they'd say "you don't gain a magic hack." Period, end of sentence.
I'm not reading too much into it, that's the meaning of the language used. It is not worded poorly if that's what they actually mean. Every other instance of "instead" in that section means what I suggest.
I guess I'll toss it up in rules questions.
No, you get your first at level 5 and you only get 1 at that time.
Sorry, apparently I also poorly worded my previous post.
You're trying to interpret this in an overly literal way that isn't intended.
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Yeah... so here's your magic hack text:
Magic Hack 2nd LevelYou have carefully studied the forces that define magic and can manipulate them. You learn your first magic hack at 2nd level, and you learn an additional magic hack every 3 levels thereafter. When casting a spell, you can apply no more than one magic hack that affects the attributes of a spell (such as distant spell or extended spell). If a magic hack allows a saving throw to resist its effects, the DC is equal to 10 + half your technomancer level + your Intelligence modifier. The list of magic hacks appears starting on page 120.
So, exchange the 2nd with 5th in the second sentence. You don't get two hacks at 5th level. You get one.
Okay, but you're not taking into consideration the very similar language in almost all the other classes. Operative Exploits, for example, are nearly identical in the language:
"As you gain experience, you learn special tricks called operative exploits. You leran your first operative exploit at 2nd level, and you learn an additional exploit every 2 levels thereafter..."
So why is the alternative class feature for Operatives at 2nd level, "You don't gain an operative exploit" and for Technomancers "You don’t gain the magic hack class feature at 2nd level. Instead, you gain it at 5th level?" Seems like if they meant what you say, they'd just say, "You don't gain a magic hack."
I did throw it up in the Rules for a FAQ check, so you can tell me I'm wrong there instead of mucking up the space cop thread. :P
All the classes work the same, you don't get your 2nd level abilities, in exchange for a thing from your archetype, and then you gain that ability at 5th level and only get 1 of that ability at that level.
They all function identically, just not how you thought they did.
Edit: Last I'll derail this thread.