A few requests regarding physical books.


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Can we please have the option of preordering multiple copies of the playtest books/maps?

If you do a “deluxe edition” (of PF2, not the playtest, obviously) could you please include a few sewn in bookmarks? It makes a special edition more usable as well as special.

Could you review the policy of often including virgin versions of the front cover on the inside back cover of sourcebooks/modules? (I know there is value in “unencumbered” artwork, but the opportunity cost is steep, imo).

At some point, could we have a blog on the likely evolution of product lines? (Or can you say that they’re going to continue as-is, just for 2E, post-August 2019?)


I'd like to request they prioritize making the books sturdy from here on out. All of my Paizo books fall apart very quickly after surprisingly light usage.


Oh, I’d also like to be able to get multiple copies of any deluxe edition. I know Starfinder blew expectations out of the water, but I was disappointed that only single deluxe editions were permitted. (There’s too many of them to be a genuine “collector’s item” in my view, though I guess that might be one reason to restrict supply).


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Would like to see the proposed Deluxe edition version (as the pre-order form only has the proposed hardcover version?). Just posted elsewhere, but this thread seems more in line with the requests :-)


If there’s a deluxe edition, it’s likely to be a Paizo.com exclusive (so I wouldn’t expect to see it on the preorder form).


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Steve Geddes wrote:
If there’s a deluxe edition, it’s likely to be a Paizo.com exclusive (so I wouldn’t expect to see it on the preorder form).

Seems to be on there:

Pathfinder Playtest Rulebook (Deluxe Hardcover) $59.99 PZO2100-SE
States: Deluxe Hardcover with foil debossed faux-leather cover and ribbon bookmark....

Would like to see a visualisation of it before I decide to go for it.


Oh, I stand corrected. Thanks!

Looks like my lobbying is too late (but thankfully also unnecessary). :)


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Ah, I see. There’s a deluxe edition of the playtest book (cool!)

My comments are about a prospective PF2 special edition - I’d really like to be able to get multiple copies of them and if they had three bookmarks sewn in.


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Apologies for hijacking then :-) would be nice to see the playtest one though first if its going to be an example of the 'real' one. Regards!

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

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Quantities will not be limited during the preorder period (except for the standard restrictions that prevent you from putting so many things into your cart that you crash the store, naturally).

The Special Edition is available for retailers to carry if they want.

We aren't prepared to talk much about August 2019 products beyond the expectation that one of them will be the Second Edition rulebook. We've just barely announced August 2018 products.


Yeah, I appreciate that Vic (thanks for chiming in).

I didn’t really want an answer now - I just wanted to make the requests before it was too late (multiple sewn in bookmarks is, IMO, a glaring omission in the industry standard of “deluxe” hardcovers).

If I wait until you announce them, it’s going to be too late for these kinds of things to be considered. Similarly with looking for multiple copies of the deluxe corebook(s). I’ll put down the cash for three of each right now. :)

Thanks again for clarifying - I got confused, but the deluxe playtest book is a great innovation.


PS - the back cover art request was also for consideration. I didn’t expect any public discussion nor confirmation one way or the other. I’d just like you to throw that into the mix again (granted I’ve never had anyone else share my view on that one).


Well, while we are at it, will Doomsday Dawn also have a hardcopy release we can purchase, or will it be entirely PDF/download?

This probably is already answered and I just forgot or missed it (though forgot is probably more likely).


Yeah there’s a physical version that will be available for preorder and releasing with the core book.

Silver Crusade

Steve Geddes wrote:
Could you review the policy of often including virgin versions of the front cover on the inside back cover of sourcebooks/modules? (I know there is value in “unencumbered” artwork, but the opportunity cost is steep, imo).

Oh I would love this, one of the reasons I have trepidation against buying the Deluxe editions is not being able to see the lovely art.

Silver Crusade

Whoa, people are buying a deluxe version of a test book? They must have money and space for a book that will just sit on the shelf when the new 2.0 comes out. Can I just buy a PDF?


JamesS wrote:
Whoa, people are buying a deluxe version of a test book? They must have money and space for a book that will just sit on the shelf when the new 2.0 comes out. Can I just buy a PDF?

Aren't the playtest copies of the original Pathfinder rules somewhat sought after by collectors? I imagine that the idea is that this will have similar value (more as a curiosity than as an investment, but you never know.)


JamesS wrote:
Whoa, people are buying a deluxe version of a test book? They must have money and space for a book that will just sit on the shelf when the new 2.0 comes out. Can I just buy a PDF?

You can download the PDF for nothing (come August).


JamesS wrote:
Whoa, people are buying a deluxe version of a test book? They must have money and space for a book that will just sit on the shelf when the new 2.0 comes out. Can I just buy a PDF?

The PDF will be FREE. They are not charging for anyone to participate, participation is free!

It's only for those of us that prefer reading the stuff hardcopy rather than off our computers (and of course the collectors) that the hardcopies are probably being sold for.

I still have a copy of the first PF playtest book from years ago (picked it up at a FLGS then). I plan on buying the PF playtest book they release this time and perhaps one or two copies of the module (one to look pretty with the rest of the PF adventures on the shelf, and one to use) as I'm more of an adventures person rather than rules collector myself.


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I'm buying a single print copy of the playtest rules just because I really can't learn new material as well if I'm trying to read a 400+ page pdf document.

There's something about physically flipping pages and seeing where the information is on a page layout that helps me recall it better

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