I'm trying to find a "good" focused build for sorcerers that is not 1. a blaster or 2. The Kitsune enchanter.
Arcane is a good bloodline for standard spellcasting but I'm looking for something a bit more specialized the same way a blaster or enchanter would have been.
Razmiran Priest.
For when you want to save money and replace the cleric.
You can make a debuff-focused sorcerer starting with void-touched and playing with metamagic/the amplification feats, a psychic sorcerer with a fighter dip who wears full plate and a tower shield, the standard sorcadin gish, a sneaky shadow sorcerer, and more. Some examples here.
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I'm trying to find a "good" focused build for sorcerers that is not 1. a blaster or 2. The Kitsune enchanter.
Arcane is a good bloodline for standard spellcasting but I'm looking for something a bit more specialized the same way a blaster or enchanter would have been.
Well, Blasting is a typical reason to be a sorcerer or Dip a Sorcerer. But you can accomplish many other styles of builds. But somewhere along the lines, you will take a Blast spell here or there.
You can easily build a debuffer, illusionist or controller type Sorcerer just by your spell/feat selection. The bloodline with its abilities is just Icing on your 9th level casting cake.
What exactly are you looking for?
What spells really interest you?
Then we can optimize around your interests.
I'm trying to find a "good" focused build for sorcerers that is not 1. a blaster or 2. The Kitsune enchanter.
Arcane is a good bloodline for standard spellcasting but I'm looking for something a bit more specialized the same way a blaster or enchanter would have been.
Well, Blasting is a typical reason to be a sorcerer or Dip a Sorcerer. But you can accomplish many other styles of builds. But somewhere along the lines, you will take a Blast spell here or there.
You can easily build a debuffer, illusionist or controller type Sorcerer just by your spell/feat selection. The bloodline with its abilities is just Icing on your 9th level casting cake.
What exactly are you looking for?
What spells really interest you?
Then we can optimize around your interests.
I was trying to look for a different niche.
You have bloodlines that gave large boosts to compulsions so people built characters around that. You had some that boosted damage so people built around that but none of the rest seem like something you can build around.
I'm probably going to settle on an Arcane bloodline.
Other than making another thread my focus will be on suggestions for a school other than enchantment for someone planning to take both spell focus and greater spell focus.
I'm trying to find a "good" focused build for sorcerers that is not 1. a blaster or 2. The Kitsune enchanter.
Arcane is a good bloodline for standard spellcasting but I'm looking for something a bit more specialized the same way a blaster or enchanter would have been.
Well, Blasting is a typical reason to be a sorcerer or Dip a Sorcerer. But you can accomplish many other styles of builds. But somewhere along the lines, you will take a Blast spell here or there.
You can easily build a debuffer, illusionist or controller type Sorcerer just by your spell/feat selection. The bloodline with its abilities is just Icing on your 9th level casting cake.
What exactly are you looking for?
What spells really interest you?
Then we can optimize around your interests.
I was trying to look for a different niche.
You have bloodlines that gave large boosts to compulsions so people built characters around that. You had some that boosted damage so people built around that but none of the rest seem like something you can build around.
I'm probably going to settle on an Arcane bloodline.
Other than making another thread my focus will be on suggestions for a school other than enchantment for someone planning to take both spell focus and greater spell focus.
Well, let's look at what Arcane does.
Bloodline Arcana: Whenever you apply a metamagic feat to a spell that increases the slot used by at least one level, increase the spell’s DC by +1. This bonus does not stack with itself and does not apply to spells modified by the Heighten Spell feat.
This basically begs you to use Metamagic.
Now for the Powers:
First, it gives you a Familiar. In the beginning, this gives you free bonuses. If you take a Familiar Archetype it can also provide you with lots of utility. If you gain Improved Familiar you then have a Wand user that increases your action economy. I see a wand of Ill Omen and just smile to myself. This can be part 1 of your Nitch. Lots you can do with just a wand of Ill Omen.
At level 3 you get Metamagic Adept. You are now more proficient at using meta magics so your build needs to have a few. Since your not blasting I recommend Persistent and Dazing to be your go too Metmagics. I am sure you can find a few more. In the early game, it will be difficult to pull off +2 and +3 meta-magics so you. So this ability will come into play later. But there are a few meta-magics that could be of use to you early if you retrain it later. Toppling spell is nice for the first 7 Level when on a Magic Missile. Perhaps take Toppling at level 3 to ride it till Level 7 then retrain it to Persistent or Improved Familiar.
Level 9 Adds more spells to your list. If your Human or a Half Blood (Probably should be), You can have a ton of spells Known. Giving you superior choices when facing many obstacles.
Level 15 adds School Focus. This gives you reason to pick a spell focus or two. I recommend Conjuration and/or Necromancy. These spells work well with Persistent and Dazing. You do not need to summon with Conjuration as you have a ton of control spell options. Glitterdust is an amazing spell that works on most enemies. You can be popping off Persistent Glitterdusts with strong DCs that stay relevant from levels 4+.
So, all in all, Pick a few spells from the school you like. Take spell focus and have some fun.
Perhaps some of the more unusual ideas from my Crazy Character Emporium thread and online gallery can help springboard your imagination:
- Gebralter - 10th-level gnome sea scourge and illusionist
- Hama - 12th-level human quadriplegic and body snatcher
- Helegûr - 15th-level aasimar ice witch with magic flying tower
- Jorkane al-Lowell Hedessa - 9th-level wealthy elf brightness seeker
- Julian Vargo - 10th-level human experimental word caster
- Meredith Nerissa - 10th-level lovebound merfolk scout
- Niscies Craven - 13th-level human ghost pyschopath
- Nives Burer - 7th-level human Razmiran priest and con artist
- Paegin - 10th-level gnoll diabolist
- Rafaj - 11th-level human snake charmer
- Riva Sarjenka - 13th-level elf sage
- Rowan Mouri - 9th-level human warlock and necromancer
- Sandalphon - 14th-level human arcane fiend slayer
- Shioji Petilom - 16th-level halfling destined hero
- Sloy Garak - 15th-level aerieborn pontiff super scout
- Syrania - 15th-level halfling celestial betrayer and eater of worlds
- Yiankun Lee - 15th-level halfling stone child
My gallery also has some really powerful sorcerer blasters and kitsune charmers, as well as other non-themed sorcerers for those still interested in that sort.
If you like what you see, please favorite the first post of my thread.
You have bloodlines that gave large boosts to compulsions so people built characters around that. You had some that boosted damage so people built around that but none of the rest seem like something you can build around.
I'm probably going to settle on an Arcane bloodline.
Other than making another thread my focus will be on suggestions for a school other than enchantment for someone planning to take both spell focus and greater spell focus.
Wild-blooded (void-touched) is a solid start on a debuffer, sylvan gets you an animal companion (which works well with share spells & the sorc/wiz spell list), psychic frees you from ASF and isn't bad otherwise, shadow (w/seeker archetype) can make a sorcerous rogue, rakshasa is good for the paranoiacs.
If you go with arcane though - illusion is versatile. Besides actual illusions there's shadow conjuration and friends. Conjuration itself is always good too.